What have you done to Ontario?

[tslisaparadise]

Toban you have made allot of good points..but you know me..

1) I agree about the garage for the most part. But I have had the better and more work in fact at a cheaper rate on my truck though one of those garages. When I go to Canadian Tire the work is not always good and it cost an arm and a leg. You just have to pick the right grease monkey.

(On a side note I had the hottest sex once with the owner of the place I took my truck to. I am not Barbie so I will not do full details, but enough to give you all a wake up call down below! Omg it/he was so hot! He is a total grease monkey with those overalls but he wears no undies under there and when I was there last time his cock got so hard he could not hide it. So at my request he closed up his shop, went to his room upstairs and took a hot shower of course (I like dirty sex but my stud better be clean). He came out and my mouth dropped. He had one of the best bodies and biggest cocks I have seen in awhile. His face was rough but pretty at the same time if you know what I mean, he was only 20 but his body was a total man, he had tanned skin, big huge baby blue eyes, and that ass/cock was enough that I could eat for the whole month..yummy. Anyways we spent 2 hours having the most intense sex, he was one kinky stud but even those he serviced me as well he remained in control. Of course he knew I had a cock and enjoyed every inch of it, that kind of shocked me how eager he was to try everything. Anyways my knees are shaking right now just thinking about it. So for me I like that dirty garage thought made me have to have a moment to myself while writing this..hehe..lol now back on topic)

2) I do not agree with different rates for different services. I like to charge for 1/2 hour & hour. I would never do 15 mins. Whats the point? I would waste my time and my make-up! Yes, for the 1/2 hour more times then not I will not offer full service, unless I know the person or I need to get off..lol. I like to talk & take my time and enjoy myself, 1/2 hour is just to rushed. But offering an extra $ for this and extra $ for that. Then your whole time you trying to make sure you have enough money at the end and the while thing becomes about money and not hot sex. I know us girls are not doing this for the church bake sale. But money should be dealt with before so there is no thought while you in the heat of the moment. Or after if your with someone like Toban who you know. My personal pet pev is answering phones, Alyssa will tell you, that is something I hate anyone doing while I am having fun, client or other escort. I just think it takes away from the fun and it is a bit rude.

3) Jenllani. I have always loved the way you do you make up and how you dress. It is sexy but you leave more for us to wonder whats under there. We both know you have your naughty side but your not as forward as some of us. It makes you stand out and to me...you can sleep walk in my 1/2 star home any day!

4) Sunshine is also very right. When I first moved to London I was seeing 4-6 clients a day max. I was charging $200 without question. London was a small town that did not have many t-girls travelling here. As well the guys in London were so thankful to have a real shemale living here they had no issue in spending the money. But once I moved here most girls took notice and this became the new Ottawa. The problem is there is not enough guys to go around. I got that many clients because I was new to some and well known to others, that only lasted for a couple of months. Once the other girls started coming most did good but then the trash started coming to town. With in one month the prices dropped to $150 then down to $100 and then some were only charging $60-$80. They were not getting repeats so they had no choice to drop there rates....but $200 or $60 there service sucked! Allot of guys felt so ripped off they will not even she a shemale again. That in the hurts does not only hurt us girls but the clients as well.

It is not just the price drop. It is how the guys now look & treat us. They think there going to get poor service, that we are using drugs or using fake pictures. That we are going to offer one thing but then charge more once they get there. Cheaper rates means cheaper service and more times then not girls that have low standards and no self respect and with that everyone looses. The girls also get nasty and start attacking each other online and with clients. It is like buying a nice condo and then having some woman on welfare move in with her 10 kids right next door. Your paying $1000 a month and she is paying $200. It lowers the value all around.

One funny thing that you said Toban. That girls that are higher class are living in places without bed bugs. I an not going to say names. But a couple of the ?top? girls in Toronto live in a building invested with bed bugs. I mean in this building I think at one time there was 7-10 escorts that I knew lived there and when doing a random search when I was looking to move to Toronto, that address was the number 1 on the list for bed bugs...nasty!

Tasha

is it just me or did anyone else get a woody reading the sex story?

[toban]

You were lucky Tasha to be so well serviced - even the mechanic had his oil changed!

Toban you have made allot of good points..but you know me..

Oh yes Tasha I do know you and can't dispute in any way what you've said here but the last point I made was that "There will always be exceptions to the above statements."

One funny thing that you said Toban. That girls that are higher class are living in places without bed bugs. I an not going to say names. But a couple of the ?top? girls in Toronto live in a building invested with bed bugs. I mean in this building I think at one time there was 7-10 escorts that I knew lived there and when doing a random search when I was looking to move to Toronto, that address was the number 1 on the list for bed bugs...nasty!

I don't think I meant it in quite that way - what was meant was that it is far more likely that Bedbugs will be found in places with poor maintenance and landlord supervision but currently these bugs are on the prowl and can show up anywhere. I believe I know the building and at least some of the girls you refer to.

Tasha

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[can_tran_fan]

I also got many calls from guys in Toronto but most of them were not willing to pay my rates. It became clear that I could not afford to continue with my plans in Ontario without incurring significant debt. How can I justify losing money? I can't. I hope you understand.

Sunshine - be glad you are not working south of the border. My favourite lady in Houston is now offering her services at a 40% discount. Yikes!

[Finalynlitned]

Not sure if this is true but I find the more socially liberal a geographic area is the cheaper it is to buy sex. For example Quebec and Ontario escort rates are certainly cheaper than the U.S. Now I equate Alberta with conservative right wing Republicans who stigmatize all things sexual so the prices seem to be higher there. Maybe it comes down to supply and demand, the more liberal the area the more tolerant the laws are towards sp.'s hence more ladies take up the "vocation". Then again maybe none of this is true.

[sunshine]

I wish

Not sure if this is true but I find the more socially liberal a geographic area is the cheaper it is to buy sex. For example Quebec and Ontario escort rates are certainly cheaper than the U.S. Now I equate Alberta with conservative right wing Republicans who stigmatize all things sexual so the prices seem to be higher there. Maybe it comes down to supply and demand, the more liberal the area the more tolerant the laws are towards sp.'s hence more ladies take up the "vocation". Then again maybe none of this is true.

A year and a half ago, I would have agreed with you. I just wish you wou tell that to the cheap ass crack whores who are charging 50, 80 and 100 in Alberta, ruining the business for everyone.

Sunshine

[Poison_Idea]

$200 should be the minimum. it's a flag if you're paying less, what is wrong with the girl? crack? STD? debt collectors about to bust in? also I don't understand haggling on the phone, doesn't that pretty much guarantee a terrible time? wow i talked you into half rate.. this is gonna be awesome! uhh no it's not like you're buying a carpet in the medina in Marrakesh the more you pay = better time.

give her an envelope with $300 in it if she asks for $200, guaranteed good time. broke? sell cialis on the internet or something. post 'job offers' on CL and have people take surveys, pay for epic sex addiction easily.

sell K2 on ebay, buy an ID making kit for $1500 and resell IDs, endless opportunities.

[tslisaparadise]

$200 should be the minimum. it's a flag if you're paying less, what is wrong with the girl? crack? STD? debt collectors about to bust in? also I don't understand haggling on the phone, doesn't that pretty much guarantee a terrible time? wow i talked you into half rate.. this is gonna be awesome! uhh no it's not like you're buying a carpet in the medina in Marrakesh the more you pay = better time.

give her an envelope with $300 in it if she asks for $200, guaranteed good time. broke? sell cialis on the internet or something. post 'job offers' on CL and have people take surveys, pay for epic sex addiction easily.

sell K2 on ebay, buy an ID making kit for $1500 and resell IDs, endless opportunities.

whats k2?

[Poison_Idea]

tne funny thing that you said Toban. That girls that are higher class are living in places without bed bugs. I an not going to say names. But a couple of the “top” girls in Toronto live in a building invested with bed bugs. I mean in this building I think at one time there was 7-10 escorts that I knew lived there and when doing a random search when I was looking to move to Toronto, that address was the number 1 on the list for bed bugs...nasty!

Tasha

check the bed bug registry for vancouver, every single apartment in the west end and most of coal harbour/yaletown has bed bugs.. over 260+ reports just in the last 2months. noooooo

it has nothing to do with income or cleanliness.. it has to do with who is coming back from their NYC, Thai or HK vacation with them and spreading it everywhere.

here's a sample building:
http://bedbugregistry.com/location/B...55-Pendrell-St

the map beside it covered in red dots is all places with confirmed bugs. WTFFF. evac, then nuke from orbit. only way to be sure

[Poison_Idea]

whats k2?

that fake 'legal' weed they smoke in the USA sold as 'K2 summitt' or 'Spice gold'. it's synthesized THC, just grind up the real thing and ship it out at the same price with 5x the potency

[Lani]

3) Jenllani. I have always loved the way you do you make up and how you dress. It is sexy but you leave more for us to wonder whats under there. We both know you have your naughty side but your not as forward as some of us. It makes you stand out and to me...you can sleep walk in my 1/2 star home any day!

Tasha

Thank You Ms Tasha Jones.

I sleep naked and if I walk sleep in your place then I'll be up to your corridors and into your foyer then out to your garden and you'll be in a lot of trouble, coz, as you're curious what's underneath the clothes, you and you're neighbors would probably be surprised to find out...LOL!

And allow me to say in this post, that I am in no way trying to offend anyone with the postings I have added to this thread by Sunshine, I met her once, and I felt a good vibes with her, the same vibes I felt with you and among other girls. It's mostly made in jest and maybe sometimes I admit the jokes we're a little off and callous for some and I apologize, but it is without any malice towards any particular person.

But girls on this field should never have doubts about themselves,about their personalities and their attractiveness, it's not about you it's them (our admirers) and even if some ladies are gifted in the physical department, you and me might have something she may not have and that's a very big plus (and we know that beauty is in the eyes of the beer'holder). Most admirers in our environment are like a cheating husbands, they'll never be satisfied even if their wife is drop dead gorgeous, they will still frolic around, even if some of those girls couldn't hold a candle against their lovely spouse, the nature of the beast!

It's same in this field, you would see admirer jumping up and down whenever they learned or hear or read that there is a HOT! item coming to visit, you could almost feel the glee in their groins, the pounding of their loins (forget about the beatings of their heart ) the ecstatic! the joy! aaahhhhh! seems un-abated lol!, but let me assure you, that if that gorgeous hottie would stay for good, and no matter how pretty she is, with a complete certainty that it'll all change when there is another HOTTIE who is coming to town. Again, the nature of the beast.

Sometimes this makes us feel in-adequate, un-attractive, un-wanted and un-appealling, but it really isn't the case, coz, no matter how beautiful you are and desirable you are, we are dealing with human perceptions and realities of life.
Admirers, especially who work hard to earn their money, has a right to spend, a right to hire whoever they feel could sail their boats on any given day, it's their prerogatives and choices, got nothing to do with anybody's attractiveness or non.

I have seen many many old admirers who crave to suck young blood (figuratively speaking, sorry!) and no, I'm not talking about you Toban (I love youuuuuuuuuuu mr T), you're not the only old tg admirer you know, hehehe.
I have witnessed some of this very old admirers in the club, who even struggle to climb up those stairs to see those young blood hotties do I felt a pinch in my heart, coz, i'm more of a perfect match for him LOL! no! never! I even ask them if there's any particular girl he wanted to see so I could call her to meet him, (some have hearing difficulties, so I ask if he wanted the girl who has more hearing problem than him, and I suggested Thandie...I love youuuuu ms pinky!).

So, to end this long spiel , all you girls I've seen are the most beautiful creature of this earth and don't let anybody tell you otherwise, and not because you aren't busy in some days or weeks and phone isn't ringing non-stop that you are losing your glow, believe me it is them (the admirers) it's not about you or the stiff competitions, if you are doing you're job and treating your men like how you want to be treated in bed and in life you're bank account will never be depleted, just look at that hottie in Brantford, away from the maddening city, never put an ads in any newspaper and still living a good life (the admirers who continuously flock to her quaint town must have experience a differen't level of joy, thus maybe the reason for her continued success in the field).

There are times in the club when I feel like I don't even exist! lol! and there are times when I feel like i'm the belle of the ball, though most time it's the first that I mentioned hahahahahahahahahaha! but I have no worries, I just always lift my skirt and talk to the most drunk customer in the club, and that always does it for me....LOL!

I LOVE YOU PEOPLE!!!

[tslisaparadise]

So, to end this long spiel , all you girls I've seen are the most beautiful creature of this earth and don't let anybody tell you otherwise, and not because you aren't busy in some days or weeks and phone isn't ringing non-stop that you are losing your glow, believe me it is them (the admirers) it's not about you or the stiff competitions, if you are doing you're job and treating your men like how you want to be treated in bed and in life you're bank account would never be depleted, just look at that hottie in Brantford, away from the maddenning city, never put an ads in any newspaper and still living a good life (the admirers who continuesly flock to her quaint town must have experience a differen't level of joy, thus maybe the reason for her continued success in the field).

I LOVE YOU PEOPLE!!!

girl we all could learn alot from you chicky you exude class and elegance like no other thank you for that.

[dan_calgary]

hhhhhhmmmmm

The rates in Ontario have crashed to 50, 80, 100, 150. I will not operate at these levels. My phone rang off the hook while I was in Ottawa but, for the most part, guys were not willing to pay me a reasonable rate. By the time I left, I was in the red. It was not a total loss. I wanted come to Ontario to see family and friends and do a bit of shopping. I did go to Toronto on a day trip to attend a private shopping at Holt Renfrew and to see a couple of close friends.

I also got many calls from guys in Toronto but most of them were not willing to pay my rates. It became clear that I could not afford to continue with my plans in Ontario without incurring significant debt. How can I justify losing money? I can't. I hope you understand.

I have never had an experience where the girl only wanted $50-$100, even the trash on Maitland is $100-$150, (10 years ago)

I'm not sure what you were expecting, when was the last time you were in Ontario/Toronto, sounds like you were only in Toronto for a day, is going to Sudbury, SS Marie, Niagara Falls, Kitchener, Thunder Bay going to be any better ?

You would think with Lola in Montreal, Lexi in Montreal, Lucy in New York, Alyssa out west, Sue out of town, what's that 5 of top ten girls in Toronto, it would be the time to clean up in Toronto, you gotta think the other girls in Toronto this week are saying, "why am i so busy this week."

I'm in Toronto this weekend, my wallet will be opening a few times.

Maybe the reality is ..... and this is scary ..... there's just not a lot of guys (with $$$$$) looking for a t-girl experience.

[dan_calgary]

I doubt your reasons. Judging by how many TS escorts Toronto has there must be a thriving appetite for TS here. Its funny, tons of guys ARE willing to pay $200-$400/hr to the girls in TO. You think they would jump on some new blood. Especially you.

I notice a trend here, I see lots of Toronto girls traveling to all over Canada- all the time. But I dont see shemales from other parts coming to Toronto (at least rarely).Wonder why?

Honestly, I was not surprised you didnt make it to Toronto.

I have to agree, Toronto has always been a thriving market, but like Crag says in the quote below, maybe there is too many girls,

Maybe people don't realize how good things are staying in the West.

However I have noticed GG's have advertised services for very cheap for years in Toronto papers. It also appears that the number of tgirl escorts continues to grow, so it only makes sense that fierce competition would break out in Toronto in the shemale genre eventually.

However in the end I think everyone can see the difference Holt Renfrew and Dollarama, and why you pay more for one over the other.

Or things are not that good here, it has cooled down, 1st year in 20 years Calgary decreased in people, hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm

[dan_calgary]

Then i find out from LUCY, that he pays her $350 an hour

doh, $350 f--k, I've been paying alot more then that, lol

[dan_calgary]

Sorry to break the news to you Sunshine, it only takes ONE (infected) client to get you infected.

Also, where are all these girls offering services for $50 and $60? The cheapest Ive ever seen $120/hr.

The thing that kills me listening to some of you shemales is; just because you pay a high rate your gonna have a great earth shattering, ankles behind your ears experience. Simply not true.

Ive heard and read dozens of reviews from guys who payed $300+ hr for a disappointing experience.

yep, me too, we have all had disappointing experiences

sorry to break the news to you Sunshine, but here maybe is one problem,

(I hope she can take a little constructive criticism, because you all know Me & Sunshine are best friends)

You have been on tour for 2 months now I'm guessing, you have had One review in 2010 on this board (grand prairie), that's it, i'm going through the review section

Lexi (holy f--k she has lots), Lola's, Lucy's, Danika's, Paris's, Alyssa's, Tasha's, Karolina's Aiko's, and lots of other girls; you have ONE review,

I don't get it, if you have been all over Canada, doesn't make sense,

and like it or not, Us guys that spend the $$$$$ DO CHECK reviews, that i can guarantee, it's not the only reason, but it's not helping you.