What have you done to Ontario?

[tslisaparadise]

Oh Lisa please pick a side and just stick to it! One minute you understand and are as upset as the rest of us. The next you are against us...
It is like changing painties with you...never know what you will pick!
Thanks so much for your imput!

Sunshine. That was very well writen and right on point...Thank you!

ya crazy chick lol

[sunshine]

a little bitching - a lot of honesty

lol i didnt single you i said eveyone and your all bitching about it.

There was some bitching but there was alot of honesty. Maybe this is the start of girls working together in respect for each other and speaking out against those who would are purposefully undermining the business.

Maybe Greep was right - maybe this is the birth of the TGirl Union.

xxx

Sunshine

[tslisaparadise]

Every single t-girl escort & gg escort gets calls asking for cheaper rates, so f--kin what, like greep said "hang-up"

I have read this thread, and correct me if I'm wrong, but clients & potential clients in Ontario & Alberta have more or less been bashed & bashed and called cheap, and you can't understand why only trash is calling you, yeah great business strategy

yeah i want to be called that, just like you want to be called, a girl who sells herself for money.

Wake-up call to all of you !!!!!!!!!!!!

We the clients really don't f---in care what the price is, as long as it's an enjoyable time, and then we repeat.

Bottom line is there is less clients and more girls working, well then you better find a way to RE-INVENT yourself, some of you haven't changed your pics or website in YEARS,

example, I thought the little Vid Jizelle did, was so cool, and maybe a new way to advertise yourselves, we see you, hear your voice, see you in everyday life. You don't have to show anything.

Yes there are people out there that want it for $50 or less, but then again, why would you want them as a client.
And why would we want a girl that charges $50, give us a LITTLE credit.

like the old saying "if it sounds to good to be true, it probaly is."

HOLY F--K, unreal

and it's worth repeating



http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showth...=126505&page=2

good points dan but the quote 200 a miss?not freakin likely ive been at 200 and my return rate id bet is way higher then any sp in history there isnt a miss here at 200.and when a guy wants to pay less i direct him the sc and let him know that thees alot cheaper ones there and im very nice about it i know what its like not to have money so i have no hard feelings that they cant afford me.

[Tasha Jones RIP]

good points dan but the quote 200 a miss?not freakin likely ive been at 200 and my return rate id bet is way higher then any sp in history there isnt a miss here at 200.and when a guy wants to pay less i direct him the sc and let him know that thees alot cheaper ones there and im very nice about it i know what its like not to have money so i have no hard feelings that they cant afford me.

That point is bang on Lisa. I even said that I have lowered my rates because guys do not have as much free cash on hand.

[greep]

We the clients really don't f---in care what the price is, as long as it's an enjoyable time, and then we repeat.--- DAN_CALGARY

And if its not enjoyable we wont repeat.

END OF THREAD



(how sunshine can find a way to argue this is beyond me)

[greep]

Also, if your one of those guys who paid Lisa or Tasha their $150 or $200, and had a whopping good time- only to call back next time asking for a lower rate--YOU SHOULD BE FUCKING ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.

Actually, not only should you continue paying her rate you should give her a fucking TIP next time for fucks sake!

[Tasha Jones RIP]

Also, if your one of those guys who paid Lisa of Tasha their $150 or $200, and had a whopping good time- only to call back next time asking for a lower rate--YOU SHOULD BE FUCKING ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.

Actually, not only should you continue paying her rate you should give her fucking TIP next time for fucks sake!

Bang on Greep.

Dan I am not even bothering wasting my time. You disappoint me!

I am going to tell you a situation that happened to me a couple of weeks ago. It explains more in detail of what is happening from my point of view!

I saw a client for over 5 years. I spent at least 2 - 2 1/2 hours with him each time I saw him. I never once looked at the clock or asked for more money. He always gave me $200 for my time & $50 tip. We talked, had wonderful sex. He would even call me just to talk or take me to dinner. I never once charged him for this or expected to get paid for my time. I had no problem with this because I felt like he was a friend and less of a client. I think Lisa might understand this best because of the relationships we have with our clients. There more personal.

Anyways. He came over like always, we talked like always and had sex like always. But this time rather then teasing my ass (which I always love with someone I trust) he tried to put it in. I stopped him and he told me ?Opps? I made it clear do not do that ?Opps? again. So I let it go as a moment of weakness and we finished up and he leaves. He always left the money in an envelope on the desk. I normally never looked till I went to the bank sometime that week.

So I go to the bank and notice that there is only a $100 bill in there. I put the money in just thinking he forgot. I have seen him for 5 years I am not going to make a huge deal out of it. So the next time he comes over same as before, lots of talk & sex. But like before he tried again to do me BB. This time I stopped 100% and talked to him to find out what the hell he was doing. In 5 years I never had this issue.

He told me that while I was away he saw that girl that was only charging $60.00 and they did BB and he really liked it and wanted to try it with me. She also only charged him $100 and told him she would do $80.00 if he only saw her while she was in town. He saw her about 5-6 times. She also had allot of nasty things to say about me and told him that I only charge $100 so he was getting ripped off by me. I asked him to leave and please never return. He got a bit upset and told me I was over reacting. I explained that not only did he put himself at risk but his wife as well. & He just tried to put me at risk.

But the main part was that he trusted someone who he just met and not someone who has been a good service provider and somewhat of a friend for over 5 years. That was an insult and showed that he had no respect for me nor himself for that matter. That is not someone I wish to spend time with. I walked him to the door, this time looking to see how much was in there. Again $100. I gave it back to him and told him to just leave and never return. I did not want his money and since we never finished I did not want him to feel like I ripped him off.

I was very hurt and insulted by this. So, I looked up some other guys that I saw that had not seen me in sometime. I called them. They were single and I have called them many times in the past, so it is not something I normally do but also not something that was uncalled for. I asked them why they had not seen me and they told me pretty much the same thing. I told them thank you for letting me know and good luck.

I understand that I have been out of town most of the year. That I do not work that much. I am not offended that they saw someone else or that maybe they enjoyed something new. I really have no issue with that, I own no one. It was that they trusted her and that they did things with her that was very risky and it was a service I will never offer. It spoke more about there values then hers and it was just not worth the risk. I also would never be able to feel as friendly as I once did with them. Even if there paying me there has to be some trust.

They have all called me since and tried to book and I have turned them all down. 1 even showed up at my door almost bagging me. These are people I told personal things to. I allowed into my personal life. I built a relationship with over years. Dan you know me on that level. I do not treat people like clients, I go above and beyond to make it more personal. Anyone who knows me I would rather be like that with clients then in & out in 10 minutes. To me, thats worth something.

I am sure she is reading this and laughing to herself that she put one over on me. But to be honest it is me who has the last laugh. In the next couple of years I will have left this life behind. I will be married, have children (I hope) and have a day job that will bring me happiness. She will still be where she is now and has been for 20 years. Bitter, old & broke. She might have made some quick cash, but she could have doubled what she made it she was smart.

As for the clients. They lost someone who went the extra mile. Who treated them with respect and had a mutual good time not just because I am being paid. Someone that they could trust and know they were safe with. In part because of her actions and them taking a deal to good to be true they will be the ones suffering not me.

I know to you guys none of this matters. But, is this not why the forum is here? Do you not want to hear about our views on things like this? Get to know us more then the hour you spend with us? Should the service we offer not just be about the sex but a personal touch as well? For me you can go with girls like her who will do whatever for a cheaper amount. But you will not get class or be able to have a meaningful conversation with her. You will not see her not watching the clock or waiting for her next client to knock on the door. It is about money and only money for girls like that...nothing personal. If thats all you want, then I am sorry, I thought some of you were better then that.

O.k I am done with this topic, I think it was good to be able to express myself. But I also think some took it to far and they only saw the negative in what I have been trying to say. For me this was not about bashing anyone or bitching. I thought that some guys would enjoy reading our views and seeing a different side of things. Maybe let you into our life a bit and see what we go though and why some of us are the way we are.

Thanks for all who read and good luck lady?s!
Tasha

[dan_calgary]

Dan you know me on that level. I do not treat people like clients, I go above and beyond to make it more personal. Anyone who knows me I would rather be like that with clients then in & out in 10 minutes. To me, thats worth something.

Yes 101 %

[greep]

I know one thing.....I wish I lived in London, lol.

[sunshine]

Thank you

Bang on Greep.

Dan I am not even bothering wasting my time. You disappoint me!

I am going to tell you a situation that happened to me a couple of weeks ago. It explains more in detail of what is happening from my point of view!

I saw a client for over 5 years. I spent at least 2 - 2 1/2 hours with him each time I saw him. I never once looked at the clock or asked for more money. He always gave me $200 for my time & $50 tip. We talked, had wonderful sex. He would even call me just to talk or take me to dinner. I never once charged him for this or expected to get paid for my time. I had no problem with this because I felt like he was a friend and less of a client. I think Lisa might understand this best because of the relationships we have with our clients. There more personal.

Anyways. He came over like always, we talked like always and had sex like always. But this time rather then teasing my ass (which I always love with someone I trust) he tried to put it in. I stopped him and he told me ?Opps? I made it clear do not do that ?Opps? again. So I let it go as a moment of weakness and we finished up and he leaves. He always left the money in an envelope on the desk. I normally never looked till I went to the bank sometime that week.

So I go to the bank and notice that there is only a $100 bill in there. I put the money in just thinking he forgot. I have seen him for 5 years I am not going to make a huge deal out of it. So the next time he comes over same as before, lots of talk & sex. But like before he tried again to do me BB. This time I stopped 100% and talked to him to find out what the hell he was doing. In 5 years I never had this issue.

He told me that while I was away he saw that girl that was only charging $60.00 and they did BB and he really liked it and wanted to try it with me. She also only charged him $100 and told him she would do $80.00 if he only saw her while she was in town. He saw her about 5-6 times. She also had allot of nasty things to say about me and told him that I only charge $100 so he was getting ripped off by me. I asked him to leave and please never return. He got a bit upset and told me I was over reacting. I explained that not only did he put himself at risk but his wife as well. & He just tried to put me at risk.

But the main part was that he trusted someone who he just met and not someone who has been a good service provider and somewhat of a friend for over 5 years. That was an insult and showed that he had no respect for me nor himself for that matter. That is not someone I wish to spend time with. I walked him to the door, this time looking to see how much was in there. Again $100. I gave it back to him and told him to just leave and never return. I did not want his money and since we never finished I did not want him to feel like I ripped him off.

I was very hurt and insulted by this. So, I looked up some other guys that I saw that had not seen me in sometime. I called them. They were single and I have called them many times in the past, so it is not something I normally do but also not something that was uncalled for. I asked them why they had not seen me and they told me pretty much the same thing. I told them thank you for letting me know and good luck.

I understand that I have been out of town most of the year. That I do not work that much. I am not offended that they saw someone else or that maybe they enjoyed something new. I really have no issue with that, I own no one. It was that they trusted her and that they did things with her that was very risky and it was a service I will never offer. It spoke more about there values then hers and it was just not worth the risk. I also would never be able to feel as friendly as I once did with them. Even if there paying me there has to be some trust.

They have all called me since and tried to book and I have turned them all down. 1 even showed up at my door almost bagging me. These are people I told personal things to. I allowed into my personal life. I built a relationship with over years. Dan you know me on that level. I do not treat people like clients, I go above and beyond to make it more personal. Anyone who knows me I would rather be like that with clients then in & out in 10 minutes. To me, thats worth something.

I am sure she is reading this and laughing to herself that she put one over on me. But to be honest it is me who has the last laugh. In the next couple of years I will have left this life behind. I will be married, have children (I hope) and have a day job that will bring me happiness. She will still be where she is now and has been for 20 years. Bitter, old & broke. She might have made some quick cash, but she could have doubled what she made it she was smart.

As for the clients. They lost someone who went the extra mile. Who treated them with respect and had a mutual good time not just because I am being paid. Someone that they could trust and know they were safe with. In part because of her actions and them taking a deal to good to be true they will be the ones suffering not me.

I know to you guys none of this matters. But, is this not why the forum is here? Do you not want to hear about our views on things like this? Get to know us more then the hour you spend with us? Should the service we offer not just be about the sex but a personal touch as well? For me you can go with girls like her who will do whatever for a cheaper amount. But you will not get class or be able to have a meaningful conversation with her. You will not see her not watching the clock or waiting for her next client to knock on the door. It is about money and only money for girls like that...nothing personal. If thats all you want, then I am sorry, I thought some of you were better then that.

O.k I am done with this topic, I think it was good to be able to express myself. But I also think some took it to far and they only saw the negative in what I have been trying to say. For me this was not about bashing anyone or bitching. I thought that some guys would enjoy reading our views and seeing a different side of things. Maybe let you into our life a bit and see what we go though and why some of us are the way we are.

Thanks for all who read and good luck lady?s!

Tasha

Thanks for sharing that story. You really got across just how human and vulnerable we are in these relationships with clients. Just because they are brief, doesn't mean they do not affect us.

As for that particular client, does he realize what he has lost? It would have been kinder to simply stop seeing you but to act in such an uncaring way - I can't even find words...

xxx

Sunshine

[greep]

You broke escorting rule 101: never get emotionally attached to client.

I can see why this little episode upset you.

[Tasha Jones RIP]

You broke escorting rule 101: never get emotionally attached to client.

I can see why this little episode upset you.

I have never been a fan of rules. I also have never looked at escorting as just a job...your having sex with someone to not have some feelings is to not be human.

[Paris-Montreal]

greep sorry if you did not undertand me sometimes im hard to understand

i was not bitching about client who offer cheap price ... what i was saying its more that when a girl charge to much for you dont bother botching her and complaining .. just call a other one thast it

so client get some mad when they caint afford the price of a girl and keep bitching about her online here nd on the montreal forum i see that happen a lotttt

[tslisaparadise]

greep sorry if you did not undertand me sometimes im hard to understand

i was not bitching about client who offer cheap price ... what i was saying its more that when a girl charge to much for you dont bother botching her and complaining .. just call a other one thast it

so client get some mad when they caint afford the price of a girl and keep bitching about her online here nd on the montreal forum i see that happen a lotttt

huh,and they say i need english lessons lol

[Paris-Montreal]

huh,and they say i need english lessons lol

lol bitch im french and ur englisch i have a reason u dont lol