CD's & TV's vs Shemales.

[Rantsalot]

Give me a day or 2 and I'll write out what this is going to be about.

[cobbler]

Give me a day or 2 and I'll write out what this is going to be about.

Best tease ever.

Stay tuned indeed.

[Rantsalot]

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A lil bit of philosophy. ethics, moraliy, logistics, beverages and Bailey Jae.

This is what I have observed in the past online and offline and that is between these groups there seems there was some dismay. Frankly I don't care what anyone does in their personal affairs. If you're happy then screw the rest but some people have a problem understanding this.

In the t girl community and I use community in a general sense I saw some unacceptability. Honestly. The day you step outside your house someone somewhere is not going to like you for whatever reason and with the way society likes to brand certain individuals I have seen how hard it is to adapt for those in and out of the said community.

There have been instances where I have seen an immensely feminine CD or TV and you could swear by their demeanor they were a full tilt woman whereas with shemales I have seen some act so rough and forceful that they show the traits of a man and give others a greater idea of their true identity.

These scenarios can also be reveresed. Ultar feminine shemale - masculine CD/Tv's.

Thinking further into this I began to think "Well, why do some people do what they do?" Some girls must start out as a CD/TV to fully transition to a shemale. Am I not right in saying that? Just seems logical. Of course some people are CD's and TV's just for the sake of being so and I'd presume that for shemales too. They just want to be who they are.

So here we are back at the original title. CD's and TV's vs Shemales. Why is it in such a fragile group is it hard to be accepted by those who have a common bond ? Simple really. Whichever gathering you like to associate or are a part of : sports fans, t girls, the elderly, students, physically impaired, musicians etc etc people have a different set of assumptions. Any belief that you might have is built on a series of assumptions. Take me as a prime example. I've been labeled many times upon first sight as being "ugly and naive" to "proper and scholarly" when neither is correct. Only after some time can anyone make a statement about another.


Why say this now or at all? Well, I've seen some positive and progressive change here and offline over the past 3 years and would hope that it continues and ask members to do the same. If you read this and walk away with just one thing I'd hope it would be ' "Stop. Think it out. Then react"


Perspective:

Here is a beverage


I have tried it before so with that I can say things that I know like, it's imported from Europe, it tastes sweet, goes good with alomst any meal and it's a little over priced.

Here is Bailey Jae



I have never met with her personally. The only information I understand is she's a model/actress, has been in a few vids, is in her twenties and supposedly likes comics, video games and anime. The key is I haven't met her. I can only formulate an OPINION of what i think of her and opinion is not fact or truth.

Get the idea?

With this finally off my chest I ask people reading to post whatever they feel like, positive or negative it doesn't matter as any comments you have could only build in washing away the fine line.

[agenteightysix]

Here is Bailey Jae

Huh... and i thought it was only a picture of her.

[cobbler]

The intolerance within the community has always baffled me as well. The seeming distinction between those with implants vs those without has been a constant source of bewilderment to me. If the argument is that without surgery you aren't a real shemale, then shouldn't it be then true that only those girls who have had complete SRS are real shemales?
Personally, I couldn't care less. I look for humour and style, not silicone.
Surgery does not a tgirl make.

[Fudgepacker]

Pecking order is always going to be around no matter where you go on this planet.

[toban]

The intolerance within the community has always baffled me as well. The seeming distinction between those with implants vs those without has been a constant source of bewilderment to me. - - - - - - - - - Surgery does not a tgirl make.

Pecking order is always going to be around no matter where you go on this planet.

I agree wholeheartedly with both you, Fudgepacker and with you, cobbler. Nowhere was this pettiness so visibly demonstrated as it was in the most nasty attack thread I can remember seeing on this forum! It was started just yesterday and 12 pages later, it was locked, then thankfully removed in its entirety this morning.

The two attackers may have legitimately disagreed with the thread's originator about her line of reasoning on pricing, but there was absolutely no justification for their attacks on her person. I consider that to have been the lowest of lows - repugnant!

By raising those personal matters, matters which were totally unrelated to the original issues outlined in the thread, they did the whole transgendered community a great disservice!

[greep]

I agree wholeheartedly with both you, Fudgepacker and with you, cobbler. Nowhere was this pettiness so visibly demonstrated as it was in the most nasty attack thread I can remember seeing on this forum! It was started just yesterday and 12 pages later, it was locked, then thankfully removed in its entirety this morning.

The two attackers may have legitimately disagreed with the thread's originator about her line of reasoning on pricing, but there was absolutely no justification for their attacks on her person. I consider that to have been the lowest of lows - repugnant!

By raising those personal matters, matters which were totally unrelated to the original issues outlined in the thread, they did the whole transgendered community a great disservice!

I agree, I was sickened by that whole thread.

[tslisaparadise]

I agree, I was sickened by that whole thread.

who cares whos a cd tv or shemale its nobodys bussiness who is or who isnt to you guys its perception that counts right?and if shes an sp then isnt the fantacy what your getting anyways i mean who really cares if a cd is only a cd for gods sakes we all come in different packages shapes and sizes but that doesnt make anybody better then another period.

[vangogh]

CD TV Shemales

Something else that is quite puzzling to me is the discrimination of the male gays towards the transgenders. Why is that?
As Lisa pointed out it is the perception and our fantasy that makes someone attractive. I've personally have met crossdressers and shemales who are more feminine than some genetic girls.

[Fudgepacker]

who cares whos a cd tv or shemale its nobodys bussiness who is or who isnt to you guys its perception that counts right?and if shes an sp then isnt the fantacy what your getting anyways i mean who really cares if a cd is only a cd for gods sakes we all come in different packages shapes and sizes but that doesnt make anybody better then another period.

Who cares ? Everyone who believes themselves capable of throwing the first stone. Unfortunately someone needs to remind them that person does not exist on the face of this planet. Everyone lives in a glass house.

[Rantsalot]

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Something else that is quite puzzling to me is the discrimination of the male gays towards the transgenders. Why is that?
As Lisa pointed out it is the perception and our fantasy that makes someone attractive. I've personally have met crossdressers and shemales who are more feminine than some genetic girls.

I've noticed that too. The behavior that I've witnessed is that it's almost as if the males feel they've been abandoned or betrayed. I mean, it's so ridiculous.

[toban]

Yeaaay! Hallelujah

who cares whos a cd tv or shemale its nobodys bussiness who is or who isnt to you guys its perception that counts right?and if shes an sp then isnt the fantacy what your getting anyways i mean who really cares if a cd is only a cd for gods sakes we all come in different packages shapes and sizes but that doesnt make anybody better then another period.

That is very much what I've been saying for many years and it is really fantastic to see today that you feel the same way Lisa!

What really matters is whether the girl creates the desired illusion for the person who chooses to be with her. No girl has ever been born as a shemale except possibly a very few intersexed individuals.

I suspect that almost every shemale today at some point in her life experimented in the beginning by dressing as a female, probably in private, while others chose in the end to go public, and progressed from there to enhance themselves by whatever means were available to them, with financial ability being one of their main impediments.

[tslisaparadise]

That is very much what I've been saying for many years and it is really fantastic to see today that you feel the same way Lisa!

What really matters is whether the girl creates the desired illusion for the person who chooses to be with her. No girl has ever been born as a shemale except possibly a very few intersexed individuals.

I suspect that almost every shemale today at some point in her life experimented in the beginning by dressing as a female, probably in private, while others chose in the end to go public, and progressed from there to enhance themselves by whatever means were available to them, with financial ability being one of their main impediments.

couldnt have said it better myself.i was once a cd for over 20 years before i went full time and ya i heard it over and over all the bad names etc and still hear them every once in awhile when i piss somebody off cause im mouthy lol but really we are not the judge and jury over anybodys lives exept our own.

[alyssa1]

i agree wholeheartedly with both you, fudgepacker and with you, cobbler. Nowhere was this pettiness so visibly demonstrated as it was in the most nasty attack thread i can remember seeing on this forum! It was started just yesterday and 12 pages later, it was locked, then thankfully removed in its entirety this morning.

the two attackers may have legitimately disagreed with the thread's originator about her line of reasoning on pricing, but there was absolutely no justification for their attacks on her person. I consider that to have been the lowest of lows - repugnant!

by raising those personal matters, matters which were totally unrelated to the original issues outlined in the thread, they did the whole transgendered community a great disservice!

yes i closed that thread it was giving me a headache.personally i try and stay clear of the drama.but the argument was going on and on and it was an attack on both sides. The trans community needs to stick together.cmon ladies we take enough shit from the rest of society.