Ladies, don't you think discrimination should be banned?

[dom r]

The idea of a "man in a dress" is how Hollywood portrays transsexuals. They are teaching our kids (the future generation), in cartoons like this, that a tranny is just a man dressed as a woman. And an ugly one at that. No one loves them, they make it look like.

Sure, many trannys are good looking, but ask why are so many of them NOT ABLE to find normal work? Why are all trannys looked at as freaks, not worthy of respect or dignity?
Hollywood controls movies and televison content.

I think that sort of tranny bashing should be banned because it creates a transphobic environment for transsexual EVERYWHERE. And Hollywood reinforces the transphobia by teaching young children, in cartoons, about us in a negative light.

They made Dire Straights remove the "little faggot" lyric in the song "Money For Nothing" because it demeans homosexuals.
And you will tell me and the board that it's okay to protect gays' images but not transsexuals' images?

It's not just this cartoon, there are many teaching kids that we are ugly, that we are accepted into society only so long as we can be called names and be misrepresented.

I say, if gays can be respected, so can we.

Babe,
xoxo

I agree 100% that no one should ever be discriminated against and should be treated with equailty in the work place and elsewhere, but a movie is not real life but only a form of entertainment where its likely that the content may offend many people.....I mean what about all the slasher movies, should they be banned? And im pretty sure XXX rated porno offends quite alot of people but people who wish to view that kind of material have that right, those do not wish to view also have that right, and that includes movies that may be offensive.

Without trying to offend, it is true and perhaps a scientific fact that the most senuous version of a humanbeing is female which also can include trannies or shemales who are feminine in appearance with a feminine figure that looks really hot in a dress, but men are in fact masculine with a more rugged and plain looking body that do not look senuous in a dress and makeup, although may be good looking. In fact the female version of every male or man is always more senuous than the male version, and it is true in saying that we each have a female or male version of ourselves. HEY, where is that "check how you look as the opposite gender" web site where you provide a picture or video of yourself and recieve a 100% exact version of how you would look like as a female or male.(im thinking years ahead time).

[dom r]

JERRY SPRINGER discriminates against shemales as he always calls them MEN when in fact they are no longer men but females with male genitalia. Hes also pure sexist and hates his own gender as he always allows women to hit men on stage but if a man tried to hit a woman the security gaurds would be tackle him down to the floor in seconds.

[greep]

JERRY SPRINGER discriminates against shemales as he always calls them MEN when in fact they are no longer men but females with male genitalia. Hes also pure sexist and hates his own gender as he always allows women to hit men on stage but if a man tried to hit a woman the security gaurds would be tackle him down to the floor in seconds.

Propably because a woman can't really hurt a man by just hitting or punching, But a man can really hurt a woman by hitting or punching (and even slapping).

[Guest]

Stay on topic, please.

...a movie is not real life but only a form of entertainment where its likely that the content may offend many people.....I mean what about all the slasher movies, should they be banned?

And im pretty sure XXX rated porno offends quite alot of people but people who wish to view that kind of material have that right, those do not wish to view also have that right, and that includes movies that may be offensive.

I think you are missing my point. But seeing as you've mentioned it, yes, i think slasher movies should be banned because they are senseless things to see. Entertainment? That's entertainment to some, not all. I could never understand why people like to see movies like Friday the 13th, and the like.
When the pointless and senseless killing of innocent others becomes entertainment, i wonder why.

I wonder how many trannys have been murdered by slashing over the years. Maybe i'll do some research and find some cases for you to read, dom_r. Then, you might agree that slasher movies only serve as instructional material on how to murder someone, and should be banned.

Whatever happened to real movie making?

The porn industry is a big-money-making industry. Practically everyone watches porn because sex is what we humans do with each other. It's erotic, sometimes even educational.
And they don't show porn on prime-time television like they show the ridiculing of trannys in public. Nor do they show porn in daytime cartoons for kids to watch.They do show cartoons of cross-dressers being frauds though.

Stay on the topic, please. What's next, you're gonna ask why is this or that not banned, too?

This thread is about how society treats transsexuals and what causes that abuse. I am saying Hollywood enforces it and keeps the hatred going strong.

Now, i do understand there there are several positive things going on - some tv sitcoms and movies have tranny characters and that's good to see. THAT should have been how we were introduced in the first place.
But starting in the 50s even until the present day, TV has portrayed us in a negative light.

They could have influenced the public to take notice of trannys in public and to treat them with respect - as people with a disorder. Just because some one has a disorder, it doesn't mean they should be a target for ridicule and abuse.

If television portrayed say, Down's Syndrome children as social outcasts, the face of television would be showing Down's Syndrome people as targets.
Hollywood has a lot to do with the public's consciousness.
We used to call them mongoloids at one time. Until angry people wanted them have the human right to be treated with dignity.

Don't trannys deserve that human right, the right to live without persecution, ridicule, and social abuse in society because we have a disorder?
Hollywood doesn't seem to think so.
Hollywood influence peoples' opinions because too many empty headed people watch too much TV.

Thanks,
Babe,
xoxo

[Guest]

I don't think Springer, himself, insults them.

JERRY SPRINGER discriminates against shemales as he always calls them MEN when in fact they are no longer men but females with male genitalia. Hes also pure sexist and hates his own gender as he always allows women to hit men on stage but if a man tried to hit a woman the security gaurds would be tackle him down to the floor in seconds.

dom_r,

Jerry Springer? I never watch the show, but i have seen it a few times in my life. I've seen it on youtube a few times.

I've never got the impression that Springer, himself, has ridiculed, or was verbally abusive towards, trannys.

He uses them to have "interesting" shows for dumbed-down people who tune in to see the fist-fights and surprised looks on spouses' faces when they're told, for example,
"I've had sex with a tranny while you were at work."

He may call them "men" (i've never noticed as i don't tune into see it) but i am sure his tranny guests are paid pretty well to allow that - i am not sure. Then again, maybe the trannys are told, "You look so feminine that we have to tell the viewers that you are men so they can follow the shows theme."

Jerry Springer has done a lot to expose North America to transsexuals, i don't think that, in itself, is a bad thing.
It's the guests and audience members who really get abusive and that's because most of them, if not all, are influenced by what they see on television. AND THAT brings us back to how Hollywood presents transsexuals or cross-dressers to the viewing public.

Actually, dom_r in this clip, Jerry calls a transsexual a "she".
Be sure of what you write, please. It's a waste of time when you don't research what you want to say and you make mistakes, like that. Okay?

Babe,
xoxo

http://wn.com/transsexual?orderby=re..._time=all_time

[Guest]

Slashers

Transsexuals being slashed.

http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=2404d.
http://www.forge-forward.org/transvi...FFAvictims.php

[Guest]

Those bastards!

Hi,

Well, shame shame on Admin for not posting into THIS thread the great research topic he did.


This is pretty much another view of what i am saying.
In one of the interviews, a parent says, it's disgusting to see boys in pink nail polish and he finds the parents who allow it disgusting, too.
Where do these people get such opinions about these matters? Yep, you guessed it, from the Hollywood media.

Here is the link to Admin's thread.

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showth...406#post305406.

Those bastards!
Babe,
xoxo

[dom r]

Jerry Springer?
Actually, dom_r in this clip, Jerry calls a transsexual a "she".

Be sure of what you write, please. It's a waste of time when you don't research what you want to say and you make mistakes, like that. Okay?

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Babe,

xox

I remember that tranny, she is really hot. Maby recently the past 3 years hes finally realising that shemales are females with male genitalia and NOT men with male genitalia, but before that I often heard Jerry Springer responding to shemales in this way, "but you're a man" and called the guys who dated them "gay".

And it is true that there is alot of hatred and discrimination towards shemales (and gays) and the reason why is simple. Those hateful people HATE COCKS.

[Guest]

http://www.care2.com/causes/civil-ri...der-community/

British Government Wants Trans Community's Help on Trans Action Plan



British Government Wants Trans Community\'s Help on Trans Action Plan


With the British Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition government set to publish its "Transgender Action Plan" later this year, ministers are asking members of the trans community for their input to help shape the document.

The Government announced on March 14 that, as part of its "Working for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Equality: Moving Forward" program it would also commit to publishing the first ever Government transgender equality action plan.

As such, ministers have now created a survey to ask specific questions on what issues trans people are most concerned about and what they would prioritize in terms of health care, fighting transphobia, current equality legislation and more.

This, equality minister Lynne Featherstone said in an e-bulletin, would enable the Government to find initial action points that the trans community feel are the most pressing issues for them.

Ms. Featherstone also noted that while progress toward equality for gay, lesbian and bisexual people has made great strides in Britain, the fight for equality and acceptance of trans people has so far been less successful.

This is something the Government must tackle, she added, saying: "For far too long too many of you had to put up with the most despicable forms of hatred and bigotry which blight not only your lives, but undermine the principles upon which this country prides itself. I, along with my colleagues in the coalition government, are absolutely committed to putting a stop to this, ensuring trans people are afforded the same opportunities, freedoms and rights as any other citizen."
Below is a video of Ms. Featherstone commenting on the survey and the importance of remedying the discrimination trans people still face:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCLDC...layer_embedded

To find out more or fill out the survey, please click here.
The deadline for the survey is May 6 of this year. The survey specifically notes that while the government wishes to hear all views from British trans people, some of the questions may only be relevant for those from England and Wales.

[dom r]

Propably because a woman can't really hurt a man by just hitting or punching, But a man can really hurt a woman by hitting or punching (and even slapping).

Women certainly have strength and can certainly cause serious pain on a man's face, nose or elsewhere. Those who allow women to hit men on their shows such as Jerry Springer absolutely hate their own kind and are the types of people that put on a smile as countless males genders die in war for women and children.

[Guest]

Silence of the Lambs - Buffalo Bill

Hi,

Let me re-introduce you to Silence of the Lambs' Buffalo Bill.

Something about Buffalo Bill that wasn't mentioned in the movie was that she (Bill) was a transsexual not just a cross-dresser.
She was either refused hormones for some reason, or was denied access to SRS - maybe for asking for it to soon, i forget exactly what her situation was.
However, the movie doesn't make too much reference, if any at all, to the transsexual fact - it's left for the viewers to draw their own conclusions about Bill's sanity and why this sicko "guy" wants to sew together and then wear a suit made from womens' skin.
Having been refused by the doctors, Bill went crazy with grief and desperation and decided to make a skin tight suit made out of real women's skin which she could wear to make herself feel more like a woman. She literally wanted to be in the skin of a woman.
The thing is, she got the skin from the female victims that she first kidnapped and then murdered.
That's the reason WHY (TS)Bill wanted to make the skin suit.
The movie made Bill appear to be some sort off a real sicko-crossdresser to the world when Silience of the Lambs "came out".
It was just another Hollywood vehichle re-paving the highway to abuse us.

In the first clip, we see Bill do the famous dance, ending with her tucking her clitty between her thighs in front of a mirror and then backing up to see her reflection - all that after applying her make up and jewlery while asking herself in the mirror, "Would you f*ck me?" Only to answer herself back with, "I'd f*ck me. I'd f*ck me hard. I'd f*ck me so hard."

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In the second clip we see he how she kidnaps her victims and treats them.

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Of course, years later, the scene gets re-done in adult cartoons which we all know are watched by lots of kids.

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What do you think of that bit of information?

Hollywood does more than you think to tarnish us.
The cross-dressing animal popping out of a cake in a cartoon in the first post of this thread is made to look just as bad. We see all the other cartoon characters look disgusted because of the question, "Which of you is attracted to me?"

Babe,
xoxo

[unreachableone]

You start with one rational well written letter. To one company. These companies are quite sophisticated, and they realize that for every one person who makes a complaint there are hundreds more who feel the same way. At some point, after so many complaints, they will begin to consider making the adjustment to be respectful to those who are marginalized because of our society's irrational fears.

Touching on our irrational fears can create a discomfort or stress, and they know if they couple that stress with humour their audience will take advantage of that opportunity to relieve the stress with laughter. it's audience manipulation. They are very good at it. But a series of civilized complaints will have some influence on them.

What you are doing here helps to raise consciousness about such ideas. It's a start. And every movement starts somewhere. You are a good writer. I especially like your anecdotes about certain customers. lol My point is that people would listen to you. Perhaps there is a columnist, or a tv personality on a local station, or a broadcaster on a radio talk show, or a blogger with a very wide readership. Approach them and make your pitch. You certainly have passion behind you. People respond to that.

Btw, what I would really like to be doing for a living is making films. lol (seriously)

[maddplotter]

Babe, can you clarify something for me please?

You are providing examples of Hollywood's derogatory portrayal of trans gender people. But the title of your thread is "Ladies, don't you think this should be banned?" So do YOU believe such portrayals should be edited out or banned?

[Guest]

You can lead a horse to water but...

You start with one rational well written letter. To one company. These companies are quite sophisticated, and they realize that for every one person who makes a complaint there are hundreds more who feel the same way. At some point, after so many complaints, they will begin to consider making the adjustment to be respectful to those who are marginalized because of our society's irrational fears.

Touching on our irrational fears can create a discomfort or stress, and they know if they couple that stress with humour their audience will take advantage of that opportunity to relieve the stress with laughter. it's audience manipulation. They are very good at it. But a series of civilized complaints will have some influence on them.

What you are doing here helps to raise consciousness about such ideas. It's a start. And every movement starts somewhere. You are a good writer. I especially like your anecdotes about certain customers. lol My point is that people would listen to you. Perhaps there is a columnist, or a tv personality on a local station, or a broadcaster on a radio talk show, or a blogger with a very wide readership. Approach them and make your pitch. You certainly have passion behind you. People respond to that.

Btw, what I would really like to be doing for a living is making films. lol (seriously)

Hi incommunicado,

Writing one letter is a start. But i brought this up hoping everyone would be so moved to the point of wanting to do something about it - as a community.

Your point about how Hollywood manipulates audiences is spot on - it's exactly what THEY do.
They manipulate the masses. They've been doing it for years about conspiracy theorists, advertising, political debates, and how they leave the "important news" out of the news broadcasts, etc, etc, etc. They do it so much that we lose track of it and get swallowed up by the life they've created for us. And we just switch the TV channel to something that makes us laugh, instead of doing anything about it, when someone like me opens the light.

I wanted to raise consciousness about this idea and so i brought this discovery to the board hoping there would be an interest, as it affects all the girls' lives in here.
I was hoping they would say, "Hey, we never thought of that, Babe! Let's do something about it."
I was just trying to make the girls realize what i figured out about how we are treated. They all seem...i dunno...totally uninterested in what i am writing about, here. It seems this topic simply doesn't apply to them.
No one really likes to admit when someone else did somethng good, it seems.
I have had two responses from t-girls in this, what i feel is an, important thread. The first comment was basically a yawning "Much ado about nothing.", at me, and the second one literally tried to insult me by indicating that my I.Q. was less than average.
It feels odd when i address the girls and a bunch of men respond.
Thanks for responding, by the way, gentlemen. It's better than writing posts for myself to read. It's nice to know that, at least, some people find some of the things i write interesting.
Thanks for saying i am a good writer. I've heard that before many times in forums like these and it's always nice to see.
I guess i attract the sort of people who buy Playboy magazine for the editorials/articles.
It seems, sometimes, that many people in here are reading smut magazines only for the triple-X cumshot pics.

I never thought of confronting "a columnist, or a tv personality on a local station, or a broadcaster on a radio talk show, or a blogger with a very wide readership" with my ideas.
Many of those same people read what i am writing here - they just lurk to hide who they are. LOL COWARDS!
It seems very odd to me how a site like this has literally thousands of members but only a handful of them actually contribute to the board.

When i asked the questions, "What do you do for a living? and what would you rather do for a living?", i was addressing the "Much ado about nothing." poster. I wanted to illustrate the point by making reference to why she was escorting and not working somewhere else, but no response comes from the girls, as we've seen.
Of course, anyone can answer the question but it was directed at the girls who are escorting or working elsewhere in the sex industry.
I doubt that little t-girls look to adulthood and proclaim, "I wanna be a porn star, or a prostitute, or a internet cam whore when i grow up." We end up here because of how society views, limits or prohibits us from integrating into mainstream society.
Many girls might say that they are accepted into society, but i would point out that we are a trans-society within mainstream society, only. If any girl in here says that she is accepted into mainstream society, i might ask what she does as a profession. If she has an office job, that's GREAT! But how many do? Not many i suspect...and why?...well, look at your TV sets.

Thanks for your post, incommunicado. It means a lot.

Babe,
xoxo

P.S.
When i was young, i wanted to be a rock star - a guitarist.Then when my self confidence was shot and killed by all the sexual, physical and mental abuse i suffered, i felt very self conscious whenever i played in public. I never believed i did any thing right. So, i thought people were just bullsh*tting me when i was complimented on my playing. Thanks to my unsupportive family for instilling in me the idea that i was worthless because i quit school when i was 13 years old.
I am a pretty good guitarist, by the way.

[Guest]

Banned? Edited? Whatever could you mean?

Babe, can you clarify something for me please?

You are providing examples of Hollywood's derogatory portrayal of trans gender people. But the title of your thread is "Ladies, don't you think this should be banned?" So do YOU believe such portrayals should be edited out or banned?

Hi madplotter,

I believe the negative portrayals of transgendered people should be banned, yes. I show these videos to show/prove what the media has been doing - it's very subtle - as subtle as a cartoon cross-dressing animal popping out of a cake proclaiming that he is a girl, now, and everyone in the cartoon frowns at him.

So, if you, madplotter, are asking me if i think my thread, here, should be banned or the posts edited because i show all of this offensive material, the answer is, no. My thread should not be banned or edited to remove the offensive material. The Hollywood writers should be banned from writing such HATEFUL garbage.
I am not the one who's being offensive to the trans community by pointing out, by using the actual videos, what Hollywood has done to our collective trans-image.

Much like Dire Straights' song "Money For Nothing", we can't go back in time and edit what's already been distributed to the public. But we can certainly draw lots of attention to those movies and cartoons as in very bad taste, and to be considered as derogatory and unwanted in our society.
IT'S possible, but only if EVERY ONE makes a complaint about it and keeps on pressuring them in order to see a change.

Laws were made to be challenged - but you know, there is NO LAW that states that it's okay to make fun of trans people - they just do it! And they just do it at OUR expense. Just because it's been going on for years unnoticed, doesn't make it okay for Hollywood to carry on with the manipulation.

Cigarette companies are being sued by people who claim that because of the ads promoting smoking, their lives deteriorated. HOW MUCH money would Hollywood have to pay out in damages to every transsexual who stepped to the mic to talk about how society mistreated them because of false images that Hollywood created for profit.

They actually discuss making laws to protect us, and some senates or governments (who ever they are) refuse to accommodate us. As if it's our lot in life is to be ridiculed, abused, murdered, thrown out of our homes, refused medical care, refused jobs etc. Hollywood has a HUGE influence.
Don't kid yourself or try to kid me.

Thanks for the post,
Babe,
xoxo