Miss Universe Canada yanks transgendered contestant from pageant

[Rockheart]

I believe the proper term is discrimination, not human rights.
unfortunately the CPC has been blocking adding gender identity to the list of hate crimes and illegal things to discriminate on. however its possible that just like you can't discriminate based on the sex of a person for a job, this could be similar.

On a positive note, she is very beautiful, and the fact that shes not very angry with them (at least from that article) is definently a plus in her favour.

This just isn't discrimination nor hate crime nor illegal.

If someone wants to have a contest for genetically born women, that is their right, it has to be respected.
The rule was probably there before she was born.
It's not like they wrote it up to spite her.
Is any white women telling Miss Black America that they have the right to compete?

Governments are not going regulate beauty contests.
These constests are mostly about what is on the outside, Transsexualism is mostly about what is on the inside.

So the courts and governments force her to compete?
How stupid is that?
What next they mandate she has to win, because it is discrimination that she doesn't win.
Soon women have to stop competing because ANY transsexual can compete ahead of them.
It never ends, there has to be a line somewhere.
People have to be able to do their own thing once in a while, without some mad tranny marching in screaming discrimination.

Not everyone can be an Actor or dancer or rocket scientist.
To sue or complain because you can't act good enough or dance good enough or think good enough is nearly the same.
People have to accept their place in life, and respect others.
Everyone cannot do everything, there is a few things in life that everyone has to be excluded from.

The fact is not everyone can be a Miss Universe contestant.
I cannot be one and no matter how much I want to be, I know I don't qualify.
No matter how beautiful I am or think I am, I don't qualify.

The only situation she should be able to compete is the one where she competes without her past being known.
Since this is not possible anymore, she cannot compete.

If these constests can take away someones title for posing in Playboy then they can do what ever they want.

It just doesn't matter.
These contests are known to disrespect women's rights, so why would a TS sue to contribute to that?

No one was born with the right to enter a beauty contest.

[Bawb]

"The only way a TS could compete fairly in this contest, is if nobody knew.
Otherwise it is just not fair to anyone involved."

Crag, the latest info has her being re-instated

[mr-kink]

Miss Universe Canada allows transgendered woman to enter pageant after all

All's well that ends well!

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1155638--miss-universe-canada-allows-transgendered-woman-to-enter-pageant-after-all

[Lani]

All good!!!

All's well that ends well!

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1155638--miss-universe-canada-allows-transgendered-woman-to-enter-pageant-after-all

It's about time!

The outrage of some groups, put some sense in the organizers thick skull

Win or lose, she proves her points.
I hope she wins.

[Raging Bob]

Up side....she got in!

Down side.....it's just a beauty pageant!

Oh well...baby steps!

[nmjoffs]

Sounds like the Trump has changed his mind... and she can compete

How come nobody cared about this lovely person two weeks ago?

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showth...-shame...-quot

She likley won't win the "contest" (not because she is worthy or not but it will now become political) but she will certainly bring attention to the lovely ladies and the special circumstances that they are in and that the average person would not understand or care about which hopefully will change when people become "aware" of others situations or desires...

I have shared some really special times with two really great persons that could be labled by so many names (Shemales, Tgirls, Transgendered, etc etc) but at the end of the day they are just like you and I , but having to deal with the ignorance, predjudices of the unedjucated or uninformed...

Kitana and Dani T, Please accept my thanks and appreciation for the special times spent with you both and how you have opened my eyes... Thanks and GO Jenna Talackova!

[merelypink]

they should have let her in shame on them

[coolguy]

i saw her today she is hot i hope they let her in the contest

[Rockheart]

"The only way a TS could compete fairly in this contest, is if nobody knew.
Otherwise it is just not fair to anyone involved."

Crag, the latest info has her being re-instated

All's well that ends well!

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1155638--miss-universe-canada-allows-transgendered-woman-to-enter-pageant-after-all

I still think the whole thing is ridiculous.
The fact is she lied on her application and should be disqualified soley on that.

I'm sure she is a fantastic person and has been through alot in her life.
She is a very beautiful woman, but she is not a genetic woman and never will be.

I just saw Donald Trump on Television and he is just pissed off about whole thing and basically said:
"She can do what ever she wants, I do not care. I think the whole thing is ridiculous"

I fully agree. Everyone shouldn't be able to do everything because they whine.
That is not what life is about.
Now no one can ever say "No" to a transgendered person for anything anymore.
Shouldn't we all just be equal. What did I do, to have less rights than transgenders?

The only reason Trump is backing down is because she has a high priced "Vulture" lawyer.
The lawyer couldn't give a shit about transgenders she is just a fucking Gold digger.


All this is about is money, and using the threat of it to get what they want.
As far as their bodies go Trannies and genetic women are apples and oranges.
It just isn't a fair contest in any way.
Now all it boils down to is who has the best doctors and plastic surgeons.
And you don't even have to have a pussy as far as I can see.

You may as well open Mr. Universe up to everyone and let everyone take all the steroids and hormones they want.
They anyone can be mr. universe even this tranny.

Then why do we need either contest?
We only need Ms. universe.
How would that be?
Huge tits and huge muscles?
WTF

Some traditions just need to be left alone, in my opinion.
If you think I am in anyway against Transgenders, you do not know me.
I think displays like this just belittle the whole cause and spawns bitterness in the general community.

[Lani]

I still think the whole thing is ridiculous.
The fact is she lied on her application and should be disqualified soley on that.

I'm sure she is a fantastic person and has been through alot in her life.
She is a very beautiful woman, but she is not a genetic woman and never will be.

I just saw Donald Trump on Television and he is just pissed off about whole thing and basically said:
"She can do what ever she wants, I do not care. I think the whole thing is ridiculous"

I fully agree. Everyone shouldn't be able to do everything because they whine.
That is not what life is about.
Now no one can ever say "No" to a transgendered person for anything anymore.
Shouldn't we all just be equal. What did I do, to have less rights than transgenders?

The only reason Trump is backing down is because she has a high priced "Vulture" lawyer.
The lawyer couldn't give a shit about transgenders she is just a fucking Gold digger.


All this is about is money, and using the threat of it to get what they want.
As far as their bodies go Trannies and genetic women are apples and oranges.
It just isn't a fair contest in any way.
Now all it boils down to is who has the best doctors and plastic surgeons.
And you don't even have to have a pussy as far as I can see.

You may as well open Mr. Universe up to everyone and let everyone take all the steroids and hormones they want.
They anyone can be mr. universe even this tranny.

Then why do we need either contest?
We only need Ms. universe.
How would that be?
Huge tits and huge muscles?
WTF

Some traditions just need to be left alone, in my opinion.
If you think I am in anyway against Transgenders, you do not know me.
I think displays like this just belittle the whole cause and spawns bitterness in the general community.

Hehehe, Crag, I truly understand where you're coming from. And don't worry, we know your stance on this issue is not because you have anything against transexual or post-op girl, no person here should even think of that.

Beauty contest to me is just shallow to begin with, the winners are really chosen based on their answer to the last question of every pageant, so even if the other contestant is so gifted in the looks department, if she screwed up the last question, she can bid the crown goodbye. Although, in the same token, that whoever wins amongst the final candidates deserves it already, as they gone through a preliminary process i.e. swimsuit, gowns, talent, then the final question. Which for me isn't fair, as how can you based someone's intelligence based on just one question, that if you stammered, got nervous or got choked up while answering meant you're not as smart as the other, now that is another shallow guidelines for gauging a person's intellect. They might as well call it 'A BEAUTY and BRAIN' contest.

Though as I followed the Miss Universe Pageant since my adolescent years ('coz, I'm a shallow person lol!) except for a very few times, most winners really deserves the title. Now, do this pageants have relevance in this world, in the ills of society, ailments and sufferings of the poor people in poor nations. If they can give or contribute even just a little in helping and alleviating some problems we face in this world, such as awareness for cruelties not only to humans, but animals as well, health epidemic issues, I'm all for it.

Speaking of traditions being broken, man can marry another man, woman can marry another woman now. There's an uproar at first, but people in general have learned to accept it. And so, a non-genetically born female, as long as she exudes all the qualities of a beauty that this pageants espouse and she has the legalities of being of that gender, if she prefer to join, no one should deny it from her. Though in my personal opinion as a beautiful transgendered person as she is, she doesn't need to prove anything, especially in a shallow beauty contest. But it's her right. when she was given a legal status as female, she should/must have those rights.

Like a Mother who adopted a child, she may not gave birth to that baby, but when she legally adopted the child and in all the legal papers says that she is the Mother, there's no one in this world can deny her status as the mother of that child, even if she didn't conceived.

Ms. Talackova's legal paper says she's a woman, doesn't matter anymore what she was born into before.

And I don't care what Mr. Trump is saying, whether he is pissed or not, he belongs to the male chauvinist pig group anyway. He defended one Ms. America contestant who has a dark sexual history. So, even if in case this transgendered candidate can be proven to have a dark sexual history herself, like if she escorted before, he (Trump) and his organization would have no right to find it as another ground for her dis-qualification. 'Coz, it's gonna be another legal and human rights issue, which I'm sure they wouldn't want to deal with.

Btw., like you Crag, I don't personally like Gloria Allred either.
But she have fought for a lot of legal issues for women, discriminations and among other things. Though, yeah, I agree, she is there for the kill 'so to speak', but she is really a good lawyer.

[Rockheart]

Hehehe, Crag, I truly understand where you're coming from. And don't worry, we know your stance on this issue is not because you have anything against transexual or post-op girl, no person here should even think of that.

Beauty contest to me is just shallow to begin with, the winners are really chosen based on their answers to the last question of every pageant, so even if the other contestant isn't gifted in the looks department, if she screwed up the last question, she can bid the crown goodbye. Although, in the same token, that whoever wins amongst the final candidates deserves it already, as they gone through a preliminary process i.e. swimsuit, gowns, talent, then the final question. Which for me isn't fair, as how can you based someone's intelligence based on just one question, that if you stammered, got nervous or got choked up while answering meant you're not as smart as the other, now that is another shallow guidelines for gauging a person's intellect. They might as well call it 'A BEAUTY and BRAIN' contest.

Though as I followed the Miss Universe Pageant since my adolescent years ('coz, I'm a shallow person lol!) except for a very few times, most winners really deserves the title. Now, do this pageants have relevance in this world, in the ills of society, ailments and sufferings of the poor people in poor nations. If they can give or contribute even just a little in helping and alleviating some problems we face in this world, such as awareness for cruelties not only to humans, but animals as well, health epidemic issues, I'm all for it.

Speaking of traditions being broken, man can marry another man, woman can marry another woman now. There's an uproar at first, but people in general have learned to accept it. And so, a non-genetically born female, as long as she exudes all the qualities of a beauty that this pageants espouse and she has the legalities of being of that gender, if she prefer to join, no one should deny it from her. Though in my personal opinion as a beautiful transgendered person as she is, she doesn't need to prove anything, especially in a shallow beauty contest. But it's her right. when she was given a legal status as female, she should/must have those rights.

Like a Mother who adopted a child, she may not gave birth to that baby, but when she legally adopted the child and in all the legal papers says that she is the Mother, there's no one in this world can deny her status as the mother of that child, even if she didn't conceived.

Ms Telaclova's legal paper says she's a woman, doesn't matter anymore what she was born into before.

And I don't care what Mr. Trump is saying, whether he is pissed or not, he belongs to the male chauvinist pig group anyway. He defended one Ms. America contestant who have a dark sexual history. So, even if in case this transgendered candidate proven to have a dark sexual history herself, like if she escorted before, he (Trump) and his organization would have no right to find it as another ground for her dis-qualification. 'Coz, it's gonna be another legal and human rights issue, which I'm sure they wouldn't want to deal with.

Btw., like you Crag, I don't personally like Gloria Allred either.
But she have fought for a lot of legal issues for women, discriminations and among other things. Though, yeah, I agree, she is there for the kill 'so to speak', but she is really a good lawyer.

Thanks for seeing me in a good light.

I agree, it is all shallow.
That is why waving the transgender flag here is shallow, to me.
I think this is more damaging to the cause overall, than good.

Many little girls have dreamed of being Miss Universe,
but thanks to other women it is now considered sexist.
Regardless, not any girl can be in the contest.

Without Mr. Trump the whole Miss Universe thing would be gone already.
The Canadian government stopped supporting, it as well as many other governments.

So to blame Trump for something that only exists because he revived it, is crazy.

The same goes for women insisting that they get into every private mens golf club or other private mens club.
Can't men have one club to themselves, why is that so bad?
Everyone should be able to have a club with some basic rule that keep others out.
Race shouldn't be one, but sex has always been a suitable divider.
Not for everything, just some things.

Let these women have their contest and go do something really impressive.

[Lani]

Thanks for seeing me in a good light.

I agree, it is all shallow.
That is why waving the transgender flag here is shallow, to me.
I think this is more damaging to the cause overall, than good.

Well, only time could tell, if it's gonna be damaging to the transgendered people's cause. The lifestyle we learn to live isn't ideal to most people anyway.

Putting out there and highlighting her extra ordinary situation, it all depends on how she will carry herself in a much much wider spectrum, the integrity she'll gonna showcase to the world, her demeanors, her good side and of course! her good looks, who knows, she could open another door that has been closed to us for a long long time.

The only scary thing here that could happened (to some at least) is, if it turns out to be all good and positive and society accepted it and considered a post-op transexuals a real female in every aspect, regardless of what she was born into, It could signalled the rush for all passable t-girls, into the operating table and demanded a sex change that they just contemplating to do before. And if that happens, a nightmare! (for guys at least LOL!)

And transexuals, a Lady with something extra or chicks with dicks, would be history.

[toban]

Here's a new twist in the story of Jenna Talackovas

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04...se-contestant/

In reading the ads on ShemaleCanada it is obvious that she has many transgender first nation sisters and also interesting is the support she has from her home community Lake Babine Nation in Burns Lake, B.C..

[kitana.mai]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/transgender-miss-universe-contestant-interview-barbara-walters-16085743

[TrannyLover17]

I hope Jenna wins, she's HOT!