Men - how do you feel with TS call you "bottom queens' or "faggots"

[dom r]

[B]Dude, my point is that there is only 2 genders, plain and simple.If you know of other genders please list them.There is different levels of masculinity and femininity in both sexes.However the fact is there is two genders.There is one line and it is between Male and Female.Hermaphrodites, while being celebrated throughout history are very very rare.Almost never do they have fully functioning genitals of both sexes.Girls with enlarged clitoris are more common, but this isn't really any type of deformation or anything.However they still are primarily one sex.

So you and Jerry Springer beleave there can only be a male or a female and nothing in between, so therefore you and him must think shes all male because she has a penis? You both are incorrect because there can be a fusion of both genders the same way that they can combine 2 different seeds to create a fusion of part apple and part peach. What kind of fruit is that then, is it an apple or a peach? ITS A FUSION OF BOTH FRUITS. Same concept applies to trannies when their on hormones or are born with more X chromozones. Intersex and hermaphrodites clearly prove that "fusion genders" are not freaks of nature but intended by nature since nature itself is producing them in increasing numbers with each passing decade. As for me, im not a tranny or a gay, i just get off on hot tranny cum porno, ahaha.

What? What did you say Jerry? Shes a man? Ahahahaha.

[Toronto]

what about hermaphrodites?

[dom r]

what about hermaphrodites?

ARE THOSE REAL hermaphrodites or fake? I think the first pic is fake and 2nd is real? My questions are, can a hermaphrodite have both a vagina with clitoris and a penis or a just a vagina with a penis but no clitoris(or an enlarged clit that acts like a dick)? If they can have both a clitoris and a penis does that mean they can reach orgasm by rubbing either their clit or the penis head and does the orgasm feel the same? So i guess when theyre maturbating theyre thinking, today i'll rub my penis head til i cum but tomorrow it will be a clit orgasm. What if they have orgasm by rubbing both their clit and penis at same time, double explosive?

[bleh123]

All good questions.

[Meagan Nutwood]

I just think its absolutely absurd to rely on the law for definition of what it means to be trans. There are far too many unique trans situations for it to be so black and white & SIMPLY PUT. The idea of a true transsexual or true transgendered person is absolutely ridiculous, because of there being so many unique types of trans people out there on this massive scale of transsexualism/transgenderism. People are not defined by what they have between their legs! And all people here should know that better than any body else. Maybe legally, but how often does the legal system justify the people? It's usually quite ignorant and discriminatory. Yet, of course Crag relies on it so heavily to justify his ignorance. Which to me, is bananas because look at THIS site and shemalecanada, who is it run by? lol.

All he cares about is where his taxes are going and that they do not go toward anything he doesn't understand. Which would be the rest of the transgender spectrum. Gathered by all of his posts over the years, he has a very narrow perspective on transgendered people. Which I guess is also fine since he him self is not trans so he could only assume things that would make sense to him. Then that makes it his opinion and not fact. Yet he likes to parade it around as fact.

I prefer science for justification over the law any day.

[Rockheart]

This is where the law or government need to end their prejudice and discrimination and should recognise that their are more than just 2 genders. For example if transgender women are not allowed in the female washroom, then where do they go? Male's washroom? NO because it should be the government's responsibility to provide a transgender washroom because there are more than just 2 genders on planet earth. Or better yet, a washroom FOR ALL POSSIBLE GENDERS would be easier because even within transgenders their genders differ from each other in some being more female while others being more male.

Even with doctors they are prejudice against intersex or hermaphrodite babies as they hack and slash their genitals to form what they feel should be either female or male.How would parents across the world like it if doctors had a war against female new borns and hacked their vaginas to construct a penis? Im sure there would be public outrage immediately banning this evil practice, well it also should be banned when doctors hack and slash an intersex or hermaphrodite new born. The government needs to get their asses out of fucking 1930 and start recognising there is more than just 2 genders.
Thank you, thank you very much.
although im not transgender or gay, i just buy the porn, no gay porn though. female or shemale.

Name the other genders dude.
Just list them.
Porn is not a good example of reality.

So you and Jerry Springer beleave there can only be a male or a female and nothing in between, so therefore you and him must think shes all male because she has a penis? You both are incorrect because there can be a fusion of both genders the same way that they can combine 2 different seeds to create a fusion of part apple and part peach. What kind of fruit is that then, is it an apple or a peach? ITS A FUSION OF BOTH FRUITS. Same concept applies to trannies when their on hormones or are born with more X chromozones. Intersex and hermaphrodites clearly prove that "fusion genders" are not freaks of nature but intended by nature since nature itself is producing them in increasing numbers with each passing decade. As for me, im not a tranny or a gay, i just get off on hot tranny cum porno, ahaha.

What? What did you say Jerry? Shes a man? Ahahahaha.

Dude there is two genders for the creation of babies, that is all.
Name one other gender recognized by science.

I am saying law cannot start creating new genders because there isn't any new genders.
There is different levels of sexuality and femininity.

If you are a man who wants to be a woman that is fine, I will be willing to help with that.
If you are a feminine man that is a fine but I won't pay for you to only live as a woman.
That is your sexual preference at that point.

The whole premise of transsexualism is they are a woman trapped in a mans body.
So you want a womans body which includes a pussy.

I didn't say transsexuals are freaks of nature,
I said I shouldn't have to pay for everyone's sexual feelings with my tax dollars.
You seem to think there is hermaphrodites running wild in the streets.
It is very rare condition as is transsexualism.

This picture you post is of a Woman.
The reason I know is because this was my girlfriend for 3 years.
This is the lady whom i went to the operating room with.

That girl doesn't have a penis dude.
She is all woman and in no way a man.
I met her when she had a cock, yet her only goal was to get rid of it.
She earned the money paid for all her own treatment, surgeries and did it.
There was no question in her mind of keeping her cock for pleasure.
She paid for all of it, but in her case I would have agreed to the government helping some.

Other ladyboys I have dated in Thailand were not the same.
They weren't real transsexuals in my opinion but respect they want to live that way.
If they are more comfortable living as a woman, all the power to them.

I find it very interesting you chose this picture for discussion.
what made you choose this picture?

ARE THOSE REAL hermaphrodites or fake? I think the first pic is fake and 2nd is real? My questions are, can a hermaphrodite have both a vagina with clitoris and a penis or a just a vagina with a penis but no clitoris(or an enlarged clit that acts like a dick)? If they can have both a clitoris and a penis does that mean they can reach orgasm by rubbing either their clit or the penis head and does the orgasm feel the same? So i guess when theyre maturbating theyre thinking, today i'll rub my penis head til i cum but tomorrow it will be a clit orgasm. What if they have orgasm by rubbing both their clit and penis at same time, double explosive?

I think they are both fake sorry to say.
The first one is for sure, I have seen that move and it is obvious.
Your sexual fantasies are not really reality.

Dude we all come from the same egg.
The genitals are all formed from the material so they start out similar.
We probably come from a hermaphrodite creature in the past, like an amoeba or something.
So this is why I say there can be one gender or two genders in nature.
Making up other genders with law is just a farce.

The fact is 99% of people are born with either a fully formed pussy or cock.
Some woman may have a very large clitoris but this is not really a cock.

Both sexes can be many levels of femininity and masculinity, this does not make everyone transsexuals or hermaphrodites.
Sexual preferences are broad.

Next you are going to tell me there needs to be a special washroom for straight white guys who might be gay because they like shemales.
I think there should be one washroom with all stalls really.

One bathroom for everyone is the way to go and the most equal.
The stalls will give everyone their privacy.
Men and women can do their make up side by side at the mirror.
So what if i hear a woman shit, everyone does it.

[Rockheart]

I just think its absolutely absurd to rely on the law for definition of what it means to be trans. There are far too many unique trans situations for it to be so black and white & SIMPLY PUT. The idea of a true transsexual or true transgendered person is absolutely ridiculous, because of there being so many unique types of trans people out there on this massive scale of transsexualism/transgenderism. People are not defined by what they have between their legs! And all people here should know that better than any body else. Maybe legally, but how often does the legal system justify the people? It's usually quite ignorant and discriminatory. Yet, of course Crag relies on it so heavily to justify his ignorance. Which to me, is bananas because look at THIS site and shemalecanada, who is it run by? lol.

All he cares about is where his taxes are going and that they do not go toward anything he doesn't understand. Which would be the rest of the transgender spectrum. Gathered by all of his posts over the years, he has a very narrow perspective on transgendered people. Which I guess is also fine since he him self is not trans so he could only assume things that would make sense to him. Then that makes it his opinion and not fact. Yet he likes to parade it around as fact.

I prefer science for justification over the law any day.

I am only discussing the issues, not attacking individuals, Sorry you have to be so petty this way and attack my person.
I have met more transgenders and know as much about it as you. As i stated I have been in the SRS operating room with my GF.

I am trying to discuss the law, society and my place in it with transgenders.
Why can't I have a view here, i'm probably paying for your hormones.
You even said you stopped taking t-blockers because you lost your sex drive and couldn't get it up.
Sorry but not being horny alot of the time is something about women you have to accept.
If you want to be a woman, you cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Women have much lower sex drives than men, when you become a full woman you will find you just won't want it as much anymore.
Horniness often goes in cycles with women, like their period.
I have dated lots of women, i know.
After my GF had the surgery, things changed.

All you are seeing, is Crag is attacking me individually, this is not true.
There is a huge difference between Shemale Escorts and Transsexualism.
Shemale Canada is about porn and escorts, so some people could say that I be-little transgenders because of that.
Most porn stars are not real transsexuals, just fetishists.
Shemale Canada has almost nothing to do with real Transsexualism.

I pay massive amounts of taxes and I have a problem with anyone just saying they are transgender and getting money to help them. It is really hard to distinguish levels of transgenderism and most TGs are just living out a sexual preference.
I have dated shemales/ladyboys and i have dated true transgenders, after a while you can just tell.
However under the law there has to be a line, the law is not real it is black and white.
I agree there is many levels of trans, but only a few are true transsexuals really.
The rest is just sexual preference.

I fully support REAL transgendered people that have goals, not shemales that are just out for a good time and some profit.
Shemales are great, but my tax dollars shouldn't have to pay for them all.
I shouldn't have to pay for a bunch of horny people that think it is cool to have tits and a cock.
That is sexual preference and in no way transsexualism, in my opinion.

Before the internet transsexuals usually were very easy to diagnose because of their extreme condition.
And most made plans to move all the way, or as far as they could.
The internet is the main reason for the explosion of transgenders.
Another some gays can live a more comfortable life this way, however this is sexual preference only.
The reason there is so many in Thailand is largely because it is not cool to be gay there.
It is also a good way to get out of mandatory military service.

I am sorry but your genitals do determine your gender.
When you are born they turned you over and looked at your junk to see what you were.
(unless there was ultrasound.)
The psychology of diagnosing many many conditions is just guess work and a partially just a make work project by professionals.
The drug companies certainly want to promote this "lifestyle" because it is a boon for their drugs too.
The main reason laws like this make to reality is money from these types of corporations.

As far as I am concerned people are free to live however they want, I do.
But I pay for everything I do on my own, I don't go try and get free handouts to help me live the way I want.
I seriously have a problem with the way our society is sensationalizing every condition and paying for it.
Our culture is in serious problem if everyone has some type of serious condition we need treatment for.

There is now 189 levels of Autism and I am pretty sure I qualify for level 32, but I am not going to run around saying i am disabled because of it. This is why I cannot understand why so many come out and say I am sick, I am handicapped because I feel this way. I have feminine feelings. Who the fuck doesn't have feminine feelings.
But if your greatest pleasure is going out and banging someone with your cock, you are a man.
I dreamed of being a shemale when I was a teenager, it went away.

I can accept that any man living as a woman and treat them as a woman.
I feel there shouldn't be discrimination for people that want to live that way.
However you cannot push your sexual preference on everyone in this regard.

However I should not have to pay for it in any way and I don't think it should be law.
That is a sexual lifestyle preference if you have no plans to become a physical woman and like to use your cock.
Most real transgenders move towards the operation quite quickly and they don't make a hobby out of being shemale.

Everyone is confused about their sexuality, I just don't think I should have to pay for everyone else's.
I could say i have some condition because i like shemales but in fact I am probably gay or bi.
The pharmaceutical companies would probably love an official way to diagnose me and make a pill for it.

If there was a cure for gay, should tax dollars have to pay for it?
How do you diagnose gay?

Science cannot prove anything.
You show me a transgender brain, and I will find you the manliest weight lifter or truck driver with the exact same brain.
Psychology is not really science it is a series of case studies with conclusions built up over time.
It is just an industry like anything else that preys on the insecurities of humans.

Have you studied science?

[Datreebear]

I am hesitant to get into this debate but, Crag, I think you need to reconsider your definition of Transgender. Calling anyone who isn't seeking SRS but otherwise wishing to live as a woman a fetishist is incorrect IMO. Most commonly accepted definitions of transgender are variants of the below (this one is from Merriam-Webster):

trans.gen.der (adj.)

of, relating to, or being a person (as a transexual or transvestite) who identifies with or expresses a gender identity that differs from the one which corresponds to the person's sex at birth.

You can find similar definitions all over the place and almost all of them will say it is about a person's gender identity and nowhere have I seen it narrowed to just those who are seeking SRS.

On a broader note, I think this thread has done a good job with highlighting the problems with our current gender classification system. Gender is actually a fairly complicated issue and our simplistic either/or categories are woefully inadequate. Nature does not deal in absolutes. Why we seem content to continue using a classification system that was invented by our ancient ancestors is beyond me. An intersexed child is technically neither male nor female yet we insist on trying to push them into one category or the other. This is a clear sign the system is broken IMO.

Having said that, I don't think that a "new" gender definition is the answer. If we start down that path, where do we draw the line? Instead, I think society needs to shift away from being concerned about gender in the first place. Why is there a need to say a couple had a healthy baby boy or girl? Isn't "healthy baby" enough? Why do our employment forms ask for gender? If a person is capable of doing the job it should not matter what gender they were assigned at birth. Why should we care? When it comes to marriage and sex, well, as long as all participants are consenting adults, why should anyone else be bothered by it?

Thankfully I think society is starting to make this shift. Young people today seem far less concerned about gender and sexuality (two completely different things btw.) Maybe some day people will look back and laugh at our quaint notions of "gender".

Just my $0.02 worth.

And to answer the OP: I have never been called a "bottom queen" and being called a "faggot" depends on context. In any case I would not take offence (though I may take a moment to explain why I feel their assertion is incorrect).

[Rockheart]

I am hesitant to get into this debate but, Crag, I think you need to reconsider your definition of Transgender. Calling anyone who isn't seeking SRS but otherwise wishing to live as a woman a fetishist is incorrect IMO. Most commonly accepted definitions of transgender are variants of the below (this one is from Merriam-Webster):

trans.gen.der (adj.)

of, relating to, or being a person (as a transexual or transvestite) who identifies with or expresses a gender identity that differs from the one which corresponds to the person's sex at birth.

You can find similar definitions all over the place and almost all of them will say it is about a person's gender identity and nowhere have I seen it narrowed to just those who are seeking SRS.

On a broader note, I think this thread has done a good job with highlighting the problems with our current gender classification system. Gender is actually a fairly complicated issue and our simplistic either/or categories are woefully inadequate. Nature does not deal in absolutes. Why we seem content to continue using a classification system that was invented by our ancient ancestors is beyond me. An intersexed child is technically neither male nor female yet we insist on trying to push them into one category or the other. This is a clear sign the system is broken IMO.

Having said that, I don't think that a "new" gender definition is the answer. If we start down that path, where do we draw the line? Instead, I think society needs to shift away from being concerned about gender in the first place. Why is there a need to say a couple had a healthy baby boy or girl? Isn't "healthy baby" enough? Why do our employment forms ask for gender? If a person is capable of doing the job it should not matter what gender they were assigned at birth. Why should we care? When it comes to marriage and sex, well, as long as all participants are consenting adults, why should anyone else be bothered by it?

Thankfully I think society is starting to make this shift. Young people today seem far less concerned about gender and sexuality (two completely different things btw.) Maybe some day people will look back and laugh at our quaint notions of "gender".

Just my $0.02 worth.

And to answer the OP: I have never been called a "bottom queen" and being called a "faggot" depends on context. In any case I would not take offence (though I may take a moment to explain why I feel their assertion is incorrect).

No this is not my definition of transgender.
This is where I think the law should draw the line.
I am talking as a tax payer here on this point.

If someone has the condition to the degree they need to go all the way through SRS, that can be paid for.
But for the general population is a SEXUAL preference.
You can be trangendered to many different levels but you are still one gender.
Unless you were born with an extremely rare physical condition, and even then you present primarily as one gender.
Something is wrong with society if so many people think they are disabled by their sexuality while totally enjoying it.


There is no gender called trangender.
Trans stand for transition.
And actually Transvestite does not actually refer to gender disorder or transseuxals at all.
They are only obsessed with dressing and acting as a female for short periods of time.
The transition there refers to the transition back and forth in appearance but no real change in gender.
Transvestites know they are men by definition.
Transsexuals are different.

All children are very androgynous and that is the way they should be.
No one should be forcing stereo types on them.
But to make a boy think they are actually a girl is wrong.

If there is a blending of genders and sexuality in the new generation that is fine.
I shouldn't have to pay for this new openness.

If you are Trangender to the degree you feel it is a serious condition that is one thing.
However as a sexual preference, you have no condition.
The condition is called human sexuality.

All the laws in the world can create a new gender.

[Meagan Nutwood]

But gender isn't phsyical.

[Meagan Nutwood]

& Psychology is a study of the mind, so technically it is a Science.

[Rockheart]

But gender isn't phsyical.

This is not true, if you were just a brain in a jar you would have no gender.
As a result you would have no sex, you would just be a human brain in a jar.
Sexuality is not based on your physical gender, it is wide open.

There is not limits on sexuality, but people are only one "gender" mainly base on their "genitals".
they both start with "gen".

Addtionally if this was true then we should abolish all gender rights in anyway.
Not fund it or support it in any way.
All separate bathrooms should disappear and we a can just be humans.

Humans with varying sexuality, but very defined genders at birth 99.9% of the time.

This will never happen because men and women will never agree to be the same.

& Psychology is a study of the mind, so technically it is a Science.

Psychology is a humanity which means it is not a science.
It uses scientific methods to compile case studies on human behavior.
But all of this is only analysis and no facts come out of this, only trends.

Psychiatry is a Medical doctor with addtional psychology training.
So they use the trends and what they know of science to make diagnoses.
Still not an exact science at all.

We virtually know nothing of the human brain.
If the part of your brain that controls the gender of your body makes you a male, that is your gender.
Once the sequence is triggered there usually isn't much question which gender you will be.

If something went wrong and the other part of your brain does not feel right with cock and want a pussy and a baby and all that.
That is a transsexual. Anything less is sexual preference.
Transsexual is still not a gender, it just describes those in the transition from one sex to another.

[Meagan Nutwood]

I am only discussing the issues, not attacking individuals, Sorry you have to be so petty this way and attack my person.
I have met more transgenders and know as much about it as you. As i stated I have been in the SRS operating room with my GF.

I am trying to discuss the law, society and my place in it with transgenders.
Why can't I have a view here, i'm probably paying for your hormones.
You even said you stopped taking t-blockers because you lost your sex drive and couldn't get it up.
Sorry but not being horny alot of the time is something about women you have to accept.
If you want to be a woman, you cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Women have much lower sex drives than men, when you become a full woman you will find you just won't want it as much anymore.
Horniness often goes in cycles with women, like their period.
I have dated lots of women, i know.
After my GF had the surgery, things changed.

All you are seeing, is Crag is attacking me individually, this is not true.
There is a huge difference between Shemale Escorts and Transsexualism.
Shemale Canada is about porn and escorts, so some people could say that I be-little transgenders because of that.
Most porn stars are not real transsexuals, just fetishists.
Shemale Canada has almost nothing to do with real Transsexualism.

I pay massive amounts of taxes and I have a problem with anyone just saying they are transgender and getting money to help them. It is really hard to distinguish levels of transgenderism and most TGs are just living out a sexual preference.
I have dated shemales/ladyboys and i have dated true transgenders, after a while you can just tell.
However under the law there has to be a line, the law is not real it is black and white.
I agree there is many levels of trans, but only a few are true transsexuals really.
The rest is just sexual preference.

I fully support REAL transgendered people that have goals, not shemales that are just out for a good time and some profit.
Shemales are great, but my tax dollars shouldn't have to pay for them all.
I shouldn't have to pay for a bunch of horny people that think it is cool to have tits and a cock.
That is sexual preference and in no way transsexualism, in my opinion.

Before the internet transsexuals usually were very easy to diagnose because of their extreme condition.
And most made plans to move all the way, or as far as they could.
The internet is the main reason for the explosion of transgenders.
Another some gays can live a more comfortable life this way, however this is sexual preference only.
The reason there is so many in Thailand is largely because it is not cool to be gay there.
It is also a good way to get out of mandatory military service.

I am sorry but your genitals do determine your gender.
When you are born they turned you over and looked at your junk to see what you were.
(unless there was ultrasound.)
The psychology of diagnosing many many conditions is just guess work and a partially just a make work project by professionals.
The drug companies certainly want to promote this "lifestyle" because it is a boon for their drugs too.
The main reason laws like this make to reality is money from these types of corporations.

As far as I am concerned people are free to live however they want, I do.
But I pay for everything I do on my own, I don't go try and get free handouts to help me live the way I want.
I seriously have a problem with the way our society is sensationalizing every condition and paying for it.
Our culture is in serious problem if everyone has some type of serious condition we need treatment for.

There is now 189 levels of Autism and I am pretty sure I qualify for level 32, but I am not going to run around saying i am disabled because of it. This is why I cannot understand why so many come out and say I am sick, I am handicapped because I feel this way. I have feminine feelings. Who the fuck doesn't have feminine feelings.
But if your greatest pleasure is going out and banging someone with your cock, you are a man.
I dreamed of being a shemale when I was a teenager, it went away.

I can accept that any man living as a woman and treat them as a woman.
I feel there shouldn't be discrimination for people that want to live that way.
However you cannot push your sexual preference on everyone in this regard.

However I should not have to pay for it in any way and I don't think it should be law.
That is a sexual lifestyle preference if you have no plans to become a physical woman and like to use your cock.
Most real transgenders move towards the operation quite quickly and they don't make a hobby out of being shemale.

Everyone is confused about their sexuality, I just don't think I should have to pay for everyone else's.
I could say i have some condition because i like shemales but in fact I am probably gay or bi.
The pharmaceutical companies would probably love an official way to diagnose me and make a pill for it.

If there was a cure for gay, should tax dollars have to pay for it?
How do you diagnose gay?

Science cannot prove anything.
You show me a transgender brain, and I will find you the manliest weight lifter or truck driver with the exact same brain.
Psychology is not really science it is a series of case studies with conclusions built up over time.
It is just an industry like anything else that preys on the insecurities of humans.

Have you studied science?

I am in no way attacking you. I just feel that your views are beyond extremely flawed.
You feel that you know as much I do, but you couldn't possibly. You're simply a spectator with opinions and nothing more.
I pay for all of my medications, by my self I do not seek social assistance for anything. I never have and I never will.
So I thank god YOU don't have anything on me.

You are attacking individuals because you single out certain trans people who's transitional goals aren't based on SRS.
So how could you agree on the fact that there is a wide scale of transgendered people that exist when you blatantly say there is only one type that holds authenticity?
I don't care how many transgendered people you have met. Or how well you think you know them just because you witnessed your girlfriend's SRS. Like who gives a fuck about that? If I witness a homicide, does that make a fucking detective? I don't think so.

The reason why I stopped using T-blockers is simply because I don't necessarily enjoy getting fucked in my ass and I like to have sex. So, Im going to do what feels best to my body. Its called acceptance.
Early in my transition, I wanted SRS So badly. I even told my mom when I was 5 years old, that when I grow up I'm going to get a vagina.
But because I am a very intelligent person I eventually learned that what is between my legs does not make me WHO I am. It does not define me. Society tells you that. But society is a sorry excuse for any person.
My brain makes me who I am.
Regardless of your definition of a woman. I am woman. and If I'm not, just because I don't have SRS or want it, then I'm sorry but neither is your girlfriend. She does not have ovaries, she doesn't get a period, doesn't have a womb, no eggs, can't have babies. Just a penis which now LOOKS like a vagina.

I am well aware of the sex drive changes, I've experienced it and I don't like it but, the difference between me and a female is that I HAVE A CHOICE. So YES I can have my cake and eat it too!

You're going on about how trans people can't be both or in-between. Well why not? you have yet to provide a sensible reason as to why a trans person cannot transition half way. As far as I'm concerned "TRANSITION" Has still taken place, which deems them as a valid transgendered person if they say so. Not if you say so. Not every transgendered person has the same transitional goals. But that doesn't make one more realer than the other. That is favoritism. That is your opinion which you are pushing on everybody else.

Your sex does not always determine your gender.
That is the basic reason why there are transgendered people.
Some transgendered people choose to go all the way to correct their body imagine with what their brain is telling them. Other transgendered people are not so bothered by it. They are more comfortable in their own skin and therefore are okay with having a cock and tits and has absolutely nothing to do with sexual preference. It's basically just accepting the fact.
You are born with a female brain and a male body... what are you going to do about your condition? Your choice of what you do about your condition is not going to disprove the fact that you have the condition. And you're basically saying that it does, which is ridiculously ignorant and absurd. Especially for someone who has met many transgendered people.

So now, I begin to believe the very reason why you think they way you think about transgendered people is that you only associate your self with one specific type of transgendered person which fuels your ignorant perception on all transgendered people.

And I can't believe you would be so brave to say that science can't prove anything.

Science proves a lot more than any man's word.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...rain-scan.html

[toban]

Yes, the Sciences win over Humanities

. . . . . . . . . Science proves a lot more than any man's word.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan.html

Having been immersed in Science (B.Sc., industrial chemist and teacher) for almost all my adult life I must agree with Meagan here. The article Meagan quotes above is worth considering.

It is a report of some quite recent European research which seems to confirm the information from this older report :-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexualism

Scroll down to Brain Structure in the Wiki page to read the full account but here's the gist of it: "A few studies based on small samples suggest that transsexualism might be associated with a difference in the human brain called the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc). In one study, the BSTc of male-to-female transsexuals and cisgender women were similar. Those of heterosexual and homosexual men were similar to each other and different from those of women (cis- and transsexual). Another study suggests that transsexuality may have a genetic component."

I suspect that further studies will confirm both of these preliminary, but promising findings.

[Rockheart]

I am in no way attacking you. I just feel that your views are beyond extremely flawed.
You feel that you know as much I do, but you couldn't possibly. You're simply a spectator with opinions and nothing more.
I pay for all of my medications, by my self I do not seek social assistance for anything. I never have and I never will.
So I thank god YOU don't have anything on me.

You are attacking individuals because you single out certain trans people who's transitional goals aren't based on SRS.
So how could you agree on the fact that there is a wide scale of transgendered people that exist when you blatantly say there is only one type that holds authenticity?
I don't care how many transgendered people you have met. Or how well you think you know them just because you witnessed your girlfriend's SRS. Like who gives a fuck about that? If I witness a homicide, does that make a fucking detective? I don't think so.

The reason why I stopped using T-blockers is simply because I don't necessarily enjoy getting fucked in my ass and I like to have sex. So, Im going to do what feels best to my body. Its called acceptance.
Early in my transition, I wanted SRS So badly. I even told my mom when I was 5 years old, that when I grow up I'm going to get a vagina.
But because I am a very intelligent person I eventually learned that what is between my legs does not make me WHO I am. It does not define me. Society tells you that. But society is a sorry excuse for any person.
My brain makes me who I am.
Regardless of your definition of a woman. I am woman. and If I'm not, just because I don't have SRS or want it, then I'm sorry but neither is your girlfriend. She does not have ovaries, she doesn't get a period, doesn't have a womb, no eggs, can't have babies. Just a penis which now LOOKS like a vagina.

I am well aware of the sex drive changes, I've experienced it and I don't like it but, the difference between me and a female is that I HAVE A CHOICE. So YES I can have my cake and eat it too!

You're going on about how trans people can't be both or in-between. Well why not? you have yet to provide a sensible reason as to why a trans person cannot transition half way. As far as I'm concerned "TRANSITION" Has still taken place, which deems them as a valid transgendered person if they say so. Not if you say so. Not every transgendered person has the same transitional goals. But that doesn't make one more realer than the other. That is favoritism. That is your opinion which you are pushing on everybody else.

Your sex does not always determine your gender.
That is the basic reason why there are transgendered people.
Some transgendered people choose to go all the way to correct their body imagine with what their brain is telling them. Other transgendered people are not so bothered by it. They are more comfortable in their own skin and therefore are okay with having a cock and tits and has absolutely nothing to do with sexual preference. It's basically just accepting the fact.
You are born with a female brain and a male body... what are you going to do about your condition? Your choice of what you do about your condition is not going to disprove the fact that you have the condition. And you're basically saying that it does, which is ridiculously ignorant and absurd. Especially for someone who has met many transgendered people.

So now, I begin to believe the very reason why you think they way you think about transgendered people is that you only associate your self with one specific type of transgendered person which fuels your ignorant perception on all transgendered people.

And I can't believe you would be so brave to say that science can't prove anything.

Science proves a lot more than any man's word.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...rain-scan.html

Under the law a third sex cannot exist.
That is my point all along.
My tax dollars should not pay for people to live in some sexual fun land.

What do you mean your sex does not determine your gender.
Your gender is what you were born male or female, there is only 2.

Your sexuality is who you want to sleep with and what equipment you like to use etc.
Sexual preference and the act of sex.
Most of that is in your brain, your gender is something you have when you were born.

It's pretty simple.

There is so many different brains and they have studied so few, I don't buy this many people are like this.
Much more of it is sexual preference than gender dsyphoria.