My Personal Relationship With A Shemale Escort

[Tia Phoenixx]

Tia and Candyland, I think you're both right! Also I've dated girls like that in the past who weren't escorts but they sure seemed to be working me or at least my wallet. I think a safe rule of thumb is just be cautious when it comes to finance. I don't think many of us have money trees growing in our yards, relationships shouldn't be built on cash and I'm sure we have our doubts when it seems like they are. If you have doubts, trust your instincts.

I applaud those who sacrifice their career for their boyfriend, even though they might realize that it's pretty risky either way, as an escort or building up a relationship.

Nevertheless, sacrificing ourselves for others show a true love.

I've learnt the hard way. My wealthy ex boyfriend left me for somebody fresher and younger.

O well....life is not fair, isn't it?

The good thing is, now i'm becoming miss independent and actually almost earn as much as he did, when we were together

[Dreamweaver]

I don't think many of us have money trees growing in our yards, relationships shouldn't be built on cash and I'm sure we have our doubts when it seems like they are. If you have doubts, trust your instincts.

Right on.

I did have my doubts right from the start & I'm still pretty pissed off (mostly at myself) for not trusting my instincts and at how much money I ended up wasting on that con artist.

She is now burning deep holes into some new guy's wallet these days ... apparently all of her summer boyfriends have kicked her to the curb, so I guess she needed a new cash flow ... all I can say is much better him than me!! LOL

Like I said earlier in the thread ... there's a sucker born every minute ...

[wantitss63]

Thanks for posting your tale, Dreamweaver. It reminded me very much of an old GF of mine from a ways back - she had all the same hallmarks - needing cash for various crises, always a new hard-luck story, mysterious over-night absences. I was fortunate in that I didn't actually have much cash to throw around then.

All my friends were totally clear on what was going on, but not me. Oh no - I was in love...... After 18 months (or about 17 months longer than it should have been) I finally had a moment of clarity and ended things. That was also messy, but eventually she decided that BC had more 'pickings' and she moved away.

The problem with suggesting that you trust your instincts in such situations is simple: if you (or me, or anyone else) DID listen to your instincts, you would never have got into the situation in the first place. We're always wise after the fact, but we ignore the warning signals, 'cos we think we're in love, or we're helping someone, etc. Once you're in, you're in deep and extracting yourself is that much tougher. Restoring yourself takes a lot longer. To me, the key is not letting an experience like this turn you into an incurable cynic - that would be a shame. As was mentioned at the beginning of the thread, hopefully telling your tale will be cathartic for you, Dreamweaver. Don't look back, just go forward a smarter person!

And that's all the wisdom I've got at 7 AM on a cold Saturday......

Ciao all.

[tsKITANA]

introduction
i'm a hard working and successful entrepreneur. I'm not rich, but i'm not poor either ? i just make enough to own a home, eat and enjoy a nice life of not working for somebody else.

first i'd like to mention that the following story is my own personal experience with one individual and in no way is meant to paint all escorts with the same brush.

i will be using assumed names in this story, as my purpose is to provide a good read of my experiences for others to learn from and not to humiliate anyone publicly. I will call her leslie in this story. She lives in toronto, i live in the west.

communication
it all started innocently enough, sending flirty pms to each other, then postings on threads in the forums for a little over a year, much like many of you do. One day her face appeared under "people you may know" on my facebook account, so i added her. Once in a while we chatted on facebook but nothing too serious.

last april, 2012, i received a call that my mother was ill in the hospital so i made plans to fly to toronto. I told leslie on facebook and she told me she wanted to meet me.

the first face to face meeting
after arriving in toronto and spending a lot of time with my mother, i had some free time on my hands and gave leslie a call. She came to my hotel room then after the customary donation we did the dirty deed.

afterwards we chatted for about an hour like old friends. Apparently she had just broken up with her boyfriend after living with him for a few months. She told me that she was very bored living with him in northern ontario and wanted to move back to toronto.

he put her in an apartment, paid for her first 3 months rent then broke up with her. He's wealthy and kind, but not stupid.

(update 11/26/12: i've found out that he was actually still paying her rent every month until the end of november, 2012. Leslie lied about it to me in order to get more money out of me with her sad "i'm so poor" stories. I've also found out that they never did "break up" ... She was continuing to let him believe she was being loyal to him so that he would continue to pay her rent. There is one way to tell if she is lying ... Her lips are moving.)

the next day, i was at the airport waiting for my flight to head home, when leslie texted "i will miss you so much, i think i'm falling for you" ? which really surprised me, so i just texted "me too".

blossoming relationship
we began texting each other frequently, then using video chat then phoning each other. From the time i woke up, to the time i went to bed we were texting, getting to know each other better. The chats were usually initiated by leslie. She posted on facebook that she has fallen hard ? i knew she was referring to me.

one day she texted that she wanted to be my girlfriend. I told her point blank that i could not be in a serious relationship with a working escort. Some guys can emotionally handle their girlfriend being boinked 10 times a day by strangers ? unfortunately i'm not one of those guys and i told her that up front before we went any further.

she quite convincingly said she was quitting in a month and will be living with her family. I believed her. I allowed myself to fall for her ? hard. I'm usually stronger than this but with everything going on with my mother i was feeling particularly vulnerable at that time.

return to toronto, our 2nd meeting
my mother fell ill again, so i returned to toronto. This time to not only visit my mom but to explore my new found relationship. Leslie was living with me in my hotel room for close to 2 weeks while i was there. When i wasn't visiting my mother, the two of us were going on dates, cuddling, having sex and making plans for our future. She told me she wanted to live with me. I told her that right now isn't a good time, please give me a couple of months.

she said she would no longer have sex with me until we live together (!!!) right then i should have known that something was a little "off" and just said my good-byes to her ? but unfortunately i was emotionally hooked.

i asked about what happened with her ex boyfriend, she told me he was terminally ill and that he told her to find a new boyfriend. Also that the boyfriend before him beat her up so severely that she spend a week in the hospital. I felt so much pity for her and wanted to give my all of my emotional support.

before leaving for the airport we had a huge emotional farewell, lots of tears ? i almost missed my flight. When i got home, the texting, video chats and phone calls became even more intense.

return to toronto, our 3rd meeting
a couple of weeks later i received the call that my mother passed away. I was an emotional wreck at this point. Leslie invited me to stay at her apartment this time. After dealing with my mother's funeral arrangements and cleaning out her apartment, i spent the next few days with leslie. She told me that she would be escorting for another month. I said "okay? i thought you were going to live with your family?" "i changed my mind" she replied. "just one more month." hmmm

the lost phone
leslie apparently lost her phone. She said in almost tears that she couldn't survive without a phone. I offered to give her an old phone i had until she could get a new one. She laughed at the idea ? only an iphone would do. She apparently couldn't go on a phone plan because she didn't have her citizenship papers yet. Huh? To make her happy, i sign her up on my phone plan to give her an iphone.

yeah, i know, what can i say, i was a blind idiot in love.

the visit out west
i went home, we continued our text relationship as before. I invited her to stay with me for a couple of weeks, and she told me she would need to "work" while she was here to pay for her rent. I reluctantly agreed, although i didn't like it, i'm not really rich enough to be able to match the amount of money she is used to making and she did need to pay her rent at the end of the month, so i put her up in a hotel downtown.

when she came here, we spend the first night together and made some plans for the 2nd night. One of her shemale escort friends was also here, and they met me at my business. I left early so that we could go have some fun. I dropped leslie and her friend off at her hotel, as they apparently had some "clients". She would phone me when they were done.

i went to the casino across the street for dinner and to wait for her call. 2 hours later i get a call that she just wants to go out with just her friend for a few drinks, and that she hopes i would understand.

okay, whatever. So i spend a few more hours playing the slots. Later driving down the main drag to go home ? i spot her and her friend on the sidewalk, with their arms around a couple of guys (wtf)

i phoned her, she was very drunk (as she often is). What can i say, we had a big fight. I just went home.

next day she phoned me in tears, apologizing. "please let me make it up to you, i'm so so sorry, it's all my fault, i never meant to hurt you ? blah blah blah."

i gave in.

the truth revealed, eyes wide open
things started to get very rocky between us at this point, i'm starting to lose my trust in her. I felt that she wasn't sorry that she ditched me for someone else on her 2nd night here, but that she was only sorry that she got caught.

i began wondering how much more she was lying to me. I noticed photos that were hidden from me on her facebook account. I noticed facebook conversations that seemed broken up as if parts of it were hidden from me.

i got hold of her facebook password.

i snooped.

the photos that were hidden were of her and the boyfriend that beat her up ? taken the evening before my last trip to toronto, announcing on facebook that he was her new boyfriend!!!

i found that she was having free late night rendezvous with boys 10 years younger than her that she liked to trick into believing she was a gg. (sorry babe, but you aren't that passable?)

i found a 2nd facebook account that i was blocked from, where she gushes her love and affection for the terminally ill so called "ex" boyfriend that she used to live with in northern ontario.

he, no doubt, was being blocked from the other facebook account where she was gushing her love for me.

it finally made me start thinking with the head on my shoulders instead of the one between my legs.

she is a top notch con artist and a user. A low life.

i cancelled her phone service. I asked for the phone back, i asked her to pay her $300 phone bill ? but of course being a very selfish & materialistic person ? she refused.

leslie told me that i couldn't afford her.

she was right. And i'm glad. The high price for low lifes these days...

basically leslie was using me to get free phone service, and if all went as planned, to get free accommodation by living with me.

(update 11/26/12: she has now found a new guy to buy her expensive meals, spent hundreds at casinos and she will probably be moving in with him soon to get her free accommodation. A zebra can't change it's stripes .... )

the terminally ill rich 2nd boyfriend from up north? She was stringing him along in hopes of getting a generous inheritance when he died, or if possible to get him to marry her so she would get it all.

the boyfriend who beat her up? Sex. He's very young, very immature, mindless and broke. Just sex.

epilogue
it's been over a month now since we broke up. Now that all the hurt and rage has subsided in me, i look back and realize how lucky i was to end it. If i didn't see her true colours i just may have been living with her now and ruined my life.

i looked at her facebook account last night for the first time in a month. She recently spent the night with the "ex" boyfriend who previously put her in the hospital and i'm sure he will put her back in the hospital again some day. she recently took him to court over the beating ... I guess he gave her another slap when she stayed at his place and she didn't like it.

she's now into drugs, there is a photo of a big bag of pot on her facebook with an invitation for guys to come over and help her smoke it (probably smoked it all along, but was hiding it from me. Not a problem, i used to smoke it myself sometimes ... But it's just another thing she was hiding from me.)

she went out with some older guy in a suit a few times and probably did her best to drain his bank account as quickly as possible.

leslie has been escorting for close to 3 years now but she is always broke.

while all the other escorts invested in themselves by getting boobs etc., leslie is flat chested.

where did all that money go? As soon as she gets it, she spends it. Taxi rides all over the city, clubbing to the wee hours, eating in expensive restaurants, drugs, gambling in casinos and bingo.

her escort money is gone within 24 hours of receiving it. Then she will ask one of her many boyfriends for some financial help to buy food, while putting on an act of being embarrassed.

advice
my advice to anyone considering entering a relationship with an escort? Make sure you really know who you are dealing with, ask questions, ask more questions, if you catch them lying, walk away before you get in too deep.

just look out for number one. Think with your brain, not your dick.

yes this is my first post under "dreamweaver" but the above story is absolutely true, although some of the events happened in a slightly different order than what i've written. Want to know the name of the escort?

send me a pm, maybe i'll tell you.


the end.
(? and a happy beginning for me!)

[Dreamweaver]

Thanks for posting your tale, Dreamweaver. It reminded me very much of an old GF of mine from a ways back - she had all the same hallmarks - needing cash for various crises, always a new hard-luck story, mysterious over-night absences. I was fortunate in that I didn't actually have much cash to throw around then.

All my friends were totally clear on what was going on, but not me. Oh no - I was in love...... After 18 months (or about 17 months longer than it should have been) I finally had a moment of clarity and ended things. That was also messy, but eventually she decided that BC had more 'pickings' and she moved away.

The problem with suggesting that you trust your instincts in such situations is simple: if you (or me, or anyone else) DID listen to your instincts, you would never have got into the situation in the first place. We're always wise after the fact, but we ignore the warning signals, 'cos we think we're in love, or we're helping someone, etc. Once you're in, you're in deep and extracting yourself is that much tougher. Restoring yourself takes a lot longer. To me, the key is not letting an experience like this turn you into an incurable cynic - that would be a shame. As was mentioned at the beginning of the thread, hopefully telling your tale will be cathartic for you, Dreamweaver. Don't look back, just go forward a smarter person!

And that's all the wisdom I've got at 7 AM on a cold Saturday......

Ciao all.

Thanks for your "words of wisdom", it's always good to hear someone else's experiences. I'm sure there's many here who are glad to know that they are not the only ones who fell into this con with someone.

[Ana_Jolie]

I applaud those who sacrifice their career for their boyfriend, even though they might realize that it's pretty risky either way, as an escort or building up a relationship.

Nevertheless, sacrificing ourselves for others show a true love.

I've learnt the hard way. My wealthy ex boyfriend left me for somebody fresher and younger.

O well....life is not fair, isn't it?

The good thing is, now i'm becoming miss independent and actually almost earn as much as he did, when we were together

No offense or anything but when youre looking at things as dollar signs it is not going to work out. I think thats the mistake all these girls in this small community make. I am not trying to down play or dis credit what you had but all in all it seems that all that was lost was money by your post. As well I never sacrificed any career. I gave up a dead end part of myself. I have said it once and I will say it again any girl that says they are happy in this life style is full of shit.

[Tia Phoenixx]

No offense or anything but when youre looking at things as dollar signs it is not going to work out. I think thats the mistake all these girls in this small community make. I am not trying to down play or dis credit what you had but all in all it seems that all that was lost was money by your post. As well I never sacrificed any career. I gave up a dead end part of myself. I have said it once and I will say it again any girl that says they are happy in this life style is full of shit.

You misunderstood me Candyland. What i wanted to say is: somebody has "used" me as an innocent person at the time and dumped me for somebody fresher and younger. yes, he is wealthy, but that's not why i was with him at the time.

As a matter of fact, i was so proud of myself, i left Montreal to Toronto without asking him any money.

I would rather spend my life with somebody poor but nice and truly love me , rather than sacrificing my life with somebody who is wealthy but abusive.

Am I happy right now?
Well, i'm not unhappy..let's put this way. I'm fine.
There are things could have been done in a better way if i have more and better opportunity.

But life is not fair, so we have to get the best out of it.

[aguyoutthere1]

No offense or anything but when youre looking at things as dollar signs it is not going to work out. I think thats the mistake all these girls in this small community make. I am not trying to down play or dis credit what you had but all in all it seems that all that was lost was money by your post. As well I never sacrificed any career. I gave up a dead end part of myself. I have said it once and I will say it again any girl that says they are happy in this life style is full of shit.

I often wonder about this part. We've had posts where we could analyze the math to death. I understand that it is quite the and setup time for girls to host a gentlemen for an hour at a time. But think about it? How many people in life are actually "happy" with their job? Even people who have been lucky enough to work in their chosen career are often not happy. So if I look at it as a business venture, to work 5 days a week for 3 hours a day, for a minimum of $200.00/hour, is a TAX FREE $3000.00 a week. That $150,000.00 TAX FREE per year. Some doctors (After 8-10 years of additional education and loans) aren't making that after their expenses and taxes.

To "work" 15 hours a week for $3000.00 sounds incredible to me. And I think that would be a minimum for a girl that provides a decent service. There is potential to make $5000.00 a week easily. And what training do you need to get good at your job? Certainly does not take 4-8 years of University.

I do understand that their are additional expenses, surgeries, and a potentially shorter career with aging. But like any profession, with some ambition, I think you could do really well.

Of course there is the dangers involved that you never know who you meet. I assume no matter what your regular clientele is, you would always have to keep meeting new people to keep the money coming in. That's a tough one to measure. There must be a way to pay for security of some sort. Not a pimp, but ............(this may be a job I don't know about, but someone should start that business for private escorts)

Now what if a girl was really into sex. Couldn't this lifestyle be an amazing career choice?
Maybe it is just me hoping some girls are enjoying themselves, and not always just going through the motions.

Personally, I do pretty well for the last 10 years or so, with the potential of retiring very early, and trust me, I've never worked only 3 hours a day, ever. What I pay in taxes annually is more than most peoples salaries. (Don't get me started that everyone should be paying their fair share, the well off will always take care of the poor in this country, and to some degree they should) I certainly would not consider myself happy about my job or career choice. It was an accident. And like any job, there are many days I have to fake that smile, and go through the motions. Work to me has always been a means to an end. Work for the weekend, work to get the car, the vacation, work to save for "escorts", work to retire so I NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN. I always thought that is why they call it "work". Otherwise, it would be "play".

Sorry I dragged that, I sure should be working more today. LOL.

Just my 2 cents, that I understand it is a difficult career choice, but most of them are. With that choice, does come some advantages if compared to working at a real job: 40 - 60 hours a week, with all kinds of authority figures telling you what to do and when to do it. Pressures of deadlines and time limits and contracts. Fear of a mistake that you can lose your job at any time. Taking courses to keep up your knowledge in a career you may not even like. Never having enough time for family or friends or even FUN. Yep, there are some advantages to escorting as a choice.



KC

[Dreamweaver]

I often wonder about this part. We've had posts where we could analyze the math to death. I understand that it is quite the and setup time for girls to host a gentlemen for an hour at a time. But think about it? How many people in life are actually "happy" with their job? Even people who have been lucky enough to work in their chosen career are often not happy. So if I look at it as a business venture, to work 5 days a week for 3 hours a day, for a minimum of $200.00/hour, is a TAX FREE $3000.00 a week. That $150,000.00 TAX FREE per year. Some doctors (After 8-10 years of additional education and loans) aren't making that after their expenses and taxes.

To "work" 15 hours a week for $3000.00 sounds incredible to me. And I think that would be a minimum for a girl that provides a decent service. There is potential to make $5000.00 a week easily. And what training do you need to get good at your job? Certainly does not take 4-8 years of University.

I do understand that their are additional expenses, surgeries, and a potentially shorter career with aging. But like any profession, with some ambition, I think you could do really well.

Of course there is the dangers involved that you never know who you meet. I assume no matter what your regular clientele is, you would always have to keep meeting new people to keep the money coming in. That's a tough one to measure. There must be a way to pay for security of some sort. Not a pimp, but ............(this may be a job I don't know about, but someone should start that business for private escorts)

Now what if a girl was really into sex. Couldn't this lifestyle be an amazing career choice?
Maybe it is just me hoping some girls are enjoying themselves, and not always just going through the motions.

Personally, I do pretty well for the last 10 years or so, with the potential of retiring very early, and trust me, I've never worked only 3 hours a day, ever. What I pay in taxes annually is more than most peoples salaries. (Don't get me started that everyone should be paying their fair share, the well off will always take care of the poor in this country, and to some degree they should) I certainly would not consider myself happy about my job or career choice. It was an accident. And like any job, there are many days I have to fake that smile, and go through the motions. Work to me has always been a means to an end. Work for the weekend, work to get the car, the vacation, work to save for "escorts", work to retire so I NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN. I always thought that is why they call it "work". Otherwise, it would be "play".

Sorry I dragged that, I sure should be working more today. LOL.

Just my 2 cents, that I understand it is a difficult career choice, but most of them are. With that choice, does come some advantages if compared to working at a real job: 40 - 60 hours a week, with all kinds of authority figures telling you what to do and when to do it. Pressures of deadlines and time limits and contracts. Fear of a mistake that you can lose your job at any time. Taking courses to keep up your knowledge in a career you may not even like. Never having enough time for family or friends or even FUN. Yep, there are some advantages to escorting as a choice.

KC

That's the thing with escorting, it's not really someone would want to carry on into their older years. A smart, independent minded escort would plan ahead, putting money aside for the day when they are ready to retire. These people (some I've met) I respect and admire.

Then there are certain people who can't hold on to money for more than 24 hours, burning through it like newspaper in a campfire, in expensive restaurants, clubbing, casinos, bingo etc. ... like the person I was unfortunately involved with. Her idea of a retirement plan is to find some dumb guy with enough cash to waste on her every whim for the rest of his life, then for him to die and leave everything to her.

She's found someone else dumb enough to do this for now ... but when he gets sick of her spending habits and her narcissistic personality ... there are more than enough suckers to be found willing to replace him. Many of them are members of this forum ...

Be careful what you wish for, guys!

[Ana_Jolie]

I often wonder about this part. We've had posts where we could analyze the math to death. I understand that it is quite the and setup time for girls to host a gentlemen for an hour at a time. But think about it? How many people in life are actually "happy" with their job? Even people who have been lucky enough to work in their chosen career are often not happy. So if I look at it as a business venture, to work 5 days a week for 3 hours a day, for a minimum of $200.00/hour, is a TAX FREE $3000.00 a week. That $150,000.00 TAX FREE per year. Some doctors (After 8-10 years of additional education and loans) aren't making that after their expenses and taxes.

To "work" 15 hours a week for $3000.00 sounds incredible to me. And I think that would be a minimum for a girl that provides a decent service. There is potential to make $5000.00 a week easily. And what training do you need to get good at your job? Certainly does not take 4-8 years of University.

I do understand that their are additional expenses, surgeries, and a potentially shorter career with aging. But like any profession, with some ambition, I think you could do really well.

Of course there is the dangers involved that you never know who you meet. I assume no matter what your regular clientele is, you would always have to keep meeting new people to keep the money coming in. That's a tough one to measure. There must be a way to pay for security of some sort. Not a pimp, but ............(this may be a job I don't know about, but someone should start that business for private escorts)

Now what if a girl was really into sex. Couldn't this lifestyle be an amazing career choice?
Maybe it is just me hoping some girls are enjoying themselves, and not always just going through the motions.

Personally, I do pretty well for the last 10 years or so, with the potential of retiring very early, and trust me, I've never worked only 3 hours a day, ever. What I pay in taxes annually is more than most peoples salaries. (Don't get me started that everyone should be paying their fair share, the well off will always take care of the poor in this country, and to some degree they should) I certainly would not consider myself happy about my job or career choice. It was an accident. And like any job, there are many days I have to fake that smile, and go through the motions. Work to me has always been a means to an end. Work for the weekend, work to get the car, the vacation, work to save for "escorts", work to retire so I NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN. I always thought that is why they call it "work". Otherwise, it would be "play".

Sorry I dragged that, I sure should be working more today. LOL.

Just my 2 cents, that I understand it is a difficult career choice, but most of them are. With that choice, does come some advantages if compared to working at a real job: 40 - 60 hours a week, with all kinds of authority figures telling you what to do and when to do it. Pressures of deadlines and time limits and contracts. Fear of a mistake that you can lose your job at any time. Taking courses to keep up your knowledge in a career you may not even like. Never having enough time for family or friends or even FUN. Yep, there are some advantages to escorting as a choice.



KC

I think this world is kind of viewed through rose colored glasses. Yes there is advantages to this job but more disadvantages to be honest. We are always putting ourselves at risk to stds bad clients etc... As well this can be a very lonely life. I have had friends that all they did was sit at home because they did not want to miss out on making money. You kind of have to wonder is this really worth it? In my eyes no. Sex is great but is so much better shared with someone who truly cares for you. I rather share my life with people with the sincerest intentions for more as oppose to someone looking to drop a load and use me as a cum dumpster. I have met many men who are nice and have nothing but respect for me but no one wants to take home a whore when they can take a lady. Why do you think so many people in the sex trade are single and relationships dont work out?

[Rockheart]

Once you get used to that cash flow, it is hard to do without it.

However with escorting generally your income will decline as you get older.
Usually no savings or safety net.

With a mainstream career your income will increase as you get older.
Usually forced savings and a government safety net.

Not sure where love fits in here, if at all.

[Tia Phoenixx]

That's the thing with escorting, it's not really someone would want to carry on into their older years. A smart, independent minded escort would plan ahead, putting money aside for the day when they are ready to retire. These people (some I've met) I respect and admire.

Then there are certain people who can't hold on to money for more than 24 hours, burning through it like newspaper in a campfire, in expensive restaurants, clubbing, casinos, bingo etc. ... like the person I was unfortunately involved with. Her idea of a retirement plan is to find some dumb guy with enough cash to waste on her every whim for the rest of his life, then for him to die and leave everything to her.

She's found someone else dumb enough to do this for now ... but when he gets sick of her spending habits and her narcissistic personality ... there are more than enough suckers to be found willing to replace him. Many of them are members of this forum ...

Be careful what you wish for, guys!

sad but true.

And responding to escorting:

there is almost no "average" escort on the market, so either you are a popular escort or barely noticed.
why?
It's human nature, everybody wants to have the best. As simply as that.

A popular escort(s), it could be more than one escort in a big city, will take 70% of the clients of the day.

The other 30% will be shared by those who are almost unnoticed, and they ONLY have the clients because they charge much lower price than the "IT" girls
or
those who are popular are not available at the appointed time or they are booked, so the clients (who are obviously "in the mood" at the time) called them.

If everybody has 3 clients a day, nobody will quit in this industry. The truth is, either you have none or one in a day if you are the "unnoticed" one, or you will have five or more in a day, if you are the popular one(s)

Again it's sad but true, showing how cruel this business can be.

Therefore I always have sympathy for those who are "underdog" or "unnoticed" and wish them the very best, because I definitely know life is truly unfair for them.

my 2 cents,

Tia

Now, get back to work. Ciao

[xoxJanexox]

Escorting as a profession relies on many variables which in combination would determine the success of the provider. These variables are the natural assets of the provider, the dedication and passion of the provider, the marketing talents of the provider, and the marketability of t-girls (in general) in the community.

With the current fierce competition and the shrinking overall economy, as a provider you belong into one of three categories:

a) reputable providers that has already established themselves in the market and those are few. These providers have constant flow of clientele of regulars and new comers. It took these providers a lot of time, energy and intellect to establish themselves in that way and I don't believe that they are there for no reasons or no overall long term plans. If they were dum from the start they wouldn't have made it to where they are already.

b) "barely noticed" providers (as Tia said) and these as Tia said are the majority. They could barely support their living and they are kind of trapped in a vicious cycle. It is a misconception that providers in this group would see three clients per day on a regular basis as Tia mentioned already.

c) "New" providers trying to make their way out. Providers in this group will end up with (a) or (b). I can tell as a provider that joined the market recently (Sept. 2012) that escorting is not as easy as it is perceived. To stand your grounds in this market you have to work "very" hard to establish yourself. But, I am also a believer that if you did your homework well and had the talent of marketing that you should do well.

Putting that all together, I don't see Escorting as a terrible career nor a career full of roses, I do see it as a potentially profitable career if you know how to manage your affairs well. It is not for every one and those who are in for quick cash they won't last for long. As an independent myself I see that it suits me perfectly, but that's me.

In analogy, people always presume that all soccer players get millions of dollars as they see the famous soccer players receive millions annually, but those are the "famous" ones and the ones worked hard to get there. The same principle applies to any profession.

Last, people assume that escorts work only during the time of the sessions and forget that there is too much of maintenance work that clients don't recognize.

[dan_calgary]

INTRODUCTION
I'm a hard working and successful entrepreneur. I'm not rich, but I'm not poor either ? I just make enough to own a home, eat and enjoy a nice life of not working for somebody else.

First I'd like to mention that the following story is my own personal experience with one individual and in no way is meant to paint all escorts with the same brush.

I will be using assumed names in this story, as my purpose is to provide a good read of my experiences for others to learn from and not to humiliate anyone publicly. I will call her Leslie in this story. She lives in Toronto, I live in the west.

COMMUNICATION
It all started innocently enough, sending flirty PMs to each other, then postings on threads in the forums for a little over a year, much like many of you do. One day her face appeared under "people you may know" on my Facebook account, so I added her. Once in a while we chatted on Facebook but nothing too serious.

Last April, 2012, I received a call that my mother was ill in the hospital so I made plans to fly to Toronto. I told Leslie on Facebook and she told me she wanted to meet me.

THE FIRST FACE TO FACE MEETING
After arriving in Toronto and spending a lot of time with my mother, I had some free time on my hands and gave Leslie a call. She came to my hotel room then after the customary donation we did the dirty deed.

Afterwards we chatted for about an hour like old friends. Apparently she had just broken up with her boyfriend after living with him for a few months. She told me that she was very bored living with him in northern Ontario and wanted to move back to Toronto.

He put her in an apartment, paid for her first 3 months rent then broke up with her. He's wealthy and kind, but not stupid.

(UPDATE 11/26/12: I've found out that he was actually still paying her rent every month until the end of November, 2012. Leslie lied about it to me in order to get more money out of me with her sad "I'm so poor" stories. I've also found out that they never did "break up" ... she was continuing to let him believe she was being loyal to him so that he would continue to pay her rent. There is one way to tell if she is lying ... her lips are moving.)

The next day, I was at the airport waiting for my flight to head home, when Leslie texted "I will miss you so much, I think I'm falling for you" ? which really surprised me, so I just texted "me too".

BLOSSOMING RELATIONSHIP
We began texting each other frequently, then using video chat then phoning each other. From the time I woke up, to the time I went to bed we were texting, getting to know each other better. The chats were usually initiated by Leslie. She posted on Facebook that she has fallen hard ? I knew she was referring to me.

One day she texted that she wanted to be my girlfriend. I told her point blank that I could not be in a serious relationship with a working escort. Some guys can emotionally handle their girlfriend being boinked 10 times a day by strangers ? unfortunately I'm not one of those guys and I told her that up front before we went any further.

She quite convincingly said she was quitting in a month and will be living with her family. I believed her. I allowed myself to fall for her ? hard. I'm usually stronger than this but with everything going on with my mother I was feeling particularly vulnerable at that time.

RETURN TO TORONTO, OUR 2ND MEETING
My mother fell ill again, so I returned to Toronto. This time to not only visit my mom but to explore my new found relationship. Leslie was living with me in my hotel room for close to 2 weeks while I was there. When I wasn't visiting my mother, the two of us were going on dates, cuddling, having sex and making plans for our future. She told me she wanted to live with me. I told her that right now isn't a good time, please give me a couple of months.

She said she would no longer have sex with me until we live together (!!!) Right then I should have known that something was a little "off" and just said my good-byes to her ? but unfortunately I was emotionally hooked.

I asked about what happened with her ex boyfriend, she told me he was terminally ill and that he told her to find a new boyfriend. Also that the boyfriend before him beat her up so severely that she spend a week in the hospital. I felt so much pity for her and wanted to give my all of my emotional support.

Before leaving for the airport we had a huge emotional farewell, lots of tears ? I almost missed my flight. When I got home, the texting, video chats and phone calls became even more intense.

RETURN TO TORONTO, OUR 3RD MEETING
A couple of weeks later I received the call that my mother passed away. I was an emotional wreck at this point. Leslie invited me to stay at her apartment this time. After dealing with my mother's funeral arrangements and cleaning out her apartment, I spent the next few days with Leslie. She told me that she would be escorting for another month. I said "Okay? I thought you were going to live with your family?" "I changed my mind" she replied. "Just one more month." Hmmm

THE LOST PHONE
Leslie apparently lost her phone. She said in almost tears that she couldn't survive without a phone. I offered to give her an old phone I had until she could get a new one. She laughed at the idea ? only an iPhone would do. She apparently couldn't go on a phone plan because she didn't have her citizenship papers yet. Huh? To make her happy, I sign her up on my phone plan to give her an iPhone.

Yeah, I know, what can I say, I was a blind idiot in love.

THE VISIT OUT WEST
I went home, we continued our text relationship as before. I invited her to stay with me for a couple of weeks, and she told me she would need to "work" while she was here to pay for her rent. I reluctantly agreed, although I didn't like it, I'm not really rich enough to be able to match the amount of money she is used to making and she did need to pay her rent at the end of the month, so I put her up in a hotel downtown.

When she came here, we spend the first night together and made some plans for the 2nd night. One of her shemale escort friends was also here, and they met me at my business. I left early so that we could go have some fun. I dropped Leslie and her friend off at her hotel, as they apparently had some "clients". She would phone me when they were done.

I went to the casino across the street for dinner and to wait for her call. 2 hours later I get a call that she just wants to go out with just her friend for a few drinks, and that she hopes I would understand.

Okay, whatever. So I spend a few more hours playing the slots. Later driving down the main drag to go home ? I spot her and her friend on the sidewalk, with their arms around a couple of guys (wtf)

I phoned her, she was very drunk (as she often is). What can I say, we had a BIG fight. I just went home.

Next day she phoned me in tears, apologizing. "Please let me make it up to you, I'm so so sorry, it's all my fault, I never meant to hurt you ? blah blah blah."

I gave in.

THE TRUTH REVEALED, EYES WIDE OPEN
Things started to get very rocky between us at this point, I'm starting to lose my trust in her. I felt that she wasn't sorry that she ditched me for someone else on her 2nd night here, but that she was only sorry that she got caught.

I began wondering how much more she was lying to me. I noticed photos that were hidden from me on her Facebook account. I noticed Facebook conversations that seemed broken up as if parts of it were hidden from me.

I got hold of her Facebook password.

I snooped.

The photos that were hidden were of her and the boyfriend that beat her up ? taken the evening before my last trip to Toronto, announcing on Facebook that he was her new boyfriend!!!

I found that she was having free late night rendezvous with boys 10 years younger than her that she liked to trick into believing she was a gg. (sorry babe, but you aren't THAT passable?)

I found a 2nd Facebook account that I was blocked from, where she gushes her love and affection for the terminally ill so called "ex" boyfriend that she used to live with in northern Ontario.

He, no doubt, was being blocked from the other Facebook account where she was gushing her love for ME.

It finally made me start thinking with the head on my shoulders instead of the one between my legs.

She is a top notch con artist and a user. A low life.

I cancelled her phone service. I asked for the phone back, I asked her to pay her $300 phone bill ? but of course being a very selfish & materialistic person ? she refused.

Leslie told me that I couldn't afford her.

She was right. And I'm glad. The high price for low lifes these days...

Basically Leslie was using me to get free phone service, and if all went as planned, to get free accommodation by living with me.

(UPDATE 11/26/12: She has now found a new guy to buy her expensive meals, spent hundreds at casinos and she will probably be moving in with him soon to get her free accommodation. A zebra can't change it's stripes .... )

The terminally ill rich 2nd boyfriend from up north? She was stringing him along in hopes of getting a generous inheritance when he died, or if possible to get him to marry her so she would get it all.

The boyfriend who beat her up? Sex. He's very young, very immature, mindless and broke. Just sex.

EPILOGUE
It's been over a month now since we broke up. Now that all the hurt and rage has subsided in me, I look back and realize how lucky I was to end it. If I didn't see her true colours I just may have been living with her now and ruined my life.

I looked at her Facebook account last night for the first time in a month. She recently spent the night with the "ex" boyfriend who previously put her in the hospital and I'm sure he will put her back in the hospital again some day. She recently took him to court over the beating ... I guess he gave her another slap when she stayed at his place and she didn't like it.

She's now into drugs, there is a photo of a big bag of pot on her Facebook with an invitation for guys to come over and help her smoke it (probably smoked it all along, but was hiding it from me. Not a problem, I used to smoke it myself sometimes ... but it's just another thing she was hiding from me.)

She went out with some older guy in a suit a few times and probably did her best to drain his bank account as quickly as possible.

Leslie has been escorting for close to 3 years now but she is always broke.

While all the other escorts invested in themselves by getting boobs etc., Leslie is flat chested.

Where did all that money go? As soon as she gets it, she spends it. Taxi rides all over the city, clubbing to the wee hours, eating in expensive restaurants, drugs, gambling in casinos and bingo.

Her escort money is gone within 24 hours of receiving it. Then she will ask one of her many boyfriends for some financial help to buy food, while putting on an act of being embarrassed.

ADVICE
My advice to anyone considering entering a relationship with an escort? Make sure you really know who you are dealing with, ask questions, ask MORE questions, if you catch them lying, walk away before you get in too deep.

Just look out for number one. Think with your brain, not your dick

The End.

yep been there, done that,

I think it's safe to say, EVERY male poster here, has fallen head over heels for at least one t-girl escort,
anyone who says NO, is probaly lying, so don't think you are the only one dreamweaver,

there really is no reason as to why things don't work, heck we have all had gg relationships that didn't work, so why would this, but like you said, you have to realize whats happening and walk away sometimes, as hard as it is,

but reality is, most guys that want a relationship with a t-girl, are older, and the girls are younger, just doesn't work,

Never met to many 20 something guys that would commit to a relationship with a t-girl, yes for money & drugs & sex, but not long term,

and despite all the beautifulness, the hot bods, the gorgeous faces, etc etc, at the end of the day, most t-girls still have those guy habits, which us guys all are to aware of,

just my $0.02, later

[Tia Phoenixx]

Escorting as a profession relies on many variables which in combination would determine the success of the provider. These variables are the natural assets of the provider, the dedication and passion of the provider, the marketing talents of the provider, and the marketability of t-girls (in general) in the community.

With the current fierce competition and the shrinking overall economy, as a provider you belong into one of three categories:

a) reputable providers that has already established themselves in the market and those are few. These providers have constant flow of clientele of regulars and new comers. It took these providers a lot of time, energy and intellect to establish themselves in that way and I don't believe that they are there for no reasons or no overall long term plans. If they were dum from the start they wouldn't have made it to where they are already.

b) "barely noticed" providers (as Tia said) and these as Tia said are the majority. They could barely support their living and they are kind of trapped in a vicious cycle. It is a misconception that providers in this group would see three clients per day on a regular basis as Tia mentioned already.

c) "New" providers trying to make their way out. Providers in this group will end up with (a) or (b). I can tell as a provider that joined the market recently (Sept. 2012) that escorting is not as easy as it is perceived. To stand your grounds in this market you have to work "very" hard to establish yourself. But, I am also a believer that if you did your homework well and had the talent of marketing that you should do well.

Putting that all together, I don't see Escorting as a terrible career nor a career full of roses, I do see it as a potentially profitable career if you know how to manage your affairs well. It is not for every one and those who are in for quick cash they won't last for long. As an independent myself I see that it suits me perfectly, but that's me.

In analogy, people always presume that all soccer players get millions of dollars as they see the famous soccer players receive millions annually, but those are the "famous" ones and the ones worked hard to get there. The same principle applies to any profession.

Last, people assume that escorts work only during the time of the sessions and forget that there is too much of maintenance work that clients don't recognize.

true and well written

Everybody can be a tgirl escort, but only few can make it to top, and enjoy comfortable living.


Now, let's get back to the thread. Maybe i should save my opinion and write a book of escorting instead