My fantasy? Reality.

[Rantsalot]

I really do not know how to go about writing on this subject let alone I do not know if this is the proper section for it but I guess I'll just say what I want to say and see what transpires.

Over the years I've seen many t girls on and offline and the one thing I have always wanted to know is "Who are they truly?" I mean, yes, of course all men want to be with that special someone and see them dolled up or put forth some kind of fetish and what not but quite honestly, with me my thing is knowing the true person from within. I recall one girl I was chatting with at a club who told me her name and I said it was nice to meet her and then I whispered what was her "real name". She kinda looked at me rather shocked as if no one had ever asked her that before. She then smiled and told me and then continued on and said how it was so nice to break out. Needless to say we talked on and off for a while as she was up and about talking to other people with her other persona. By the end of the night she left for home but to this day we still keep in touch.

Do other guys feel as I do? You know, asking a girl about how their day was? Their goals? Knowing what they are really about or is it the opposite?

[peter68]

Oops.

[peter68]

I've never asked but always wondered. I don't think a lot of the girls would tell you unless they knew you quite well. I think you are very lucky to have made a friend that day.

[Rantsalot]

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I am not sure Peter. Perhaps girls would like to tell but don't as they probably don't get the opportunity very often. Its just that through my experience I've noticed on and offline some guys don't want to take it to that level. Then again on the flip side it could be like you said, girls might not want to give to much away of themselves for various reasons. I just think that if two people get a better understanding of each other it probably makes the connection a whole lot easier.

[toban]

Not only easier but BETTER!

- - - - - - - - I just think that if two people get a better understanding of each other it probably makes the connection a whole lot easier.

- - - - - - - Do other guys feel as I do? You know, asking a girl about how their day was? Their goals? Knowing what they are really about or is it the opposite?

Yes, I certainly do!

I first began inviting GG escorts into my home many years ago. There, I treated them as I would any other guest in my home and as you have suggested, yes there were definite dividends and payback to that approach and over the years, actual friendships did occur and still exist to this day. Such intimacy did not occur easily and took time to mature for most girls tend to be reluctant to allowing anyone to get too close too quickly as peter68 says.

When my interest in TS?s overtook that in GG?s, travel and hotel stays became mandatory making this approach to become more difficult to accomplish however I have at least tried to make time enough for a bit of talk and often a drink with each girl I?ve met just to get to know her a little before getting down to the job at hand - I've never been a fan of the quickie or just getting right down to business and for that reason I?ve seldom ever availed myself of girls offering outcalls either, for such encounters are generally more likely to be of the ?giter done ?n git? variety.

[xoxJanexox]

Caution!

The idea of this thread seems to be sincere to me but I would always caution from stepping the boundaries with clients. Let me shock the audience a little bit! This business is about creating an illusion! An escape from the reality, the mundane, to the fantasy land. It is true that some gents want something more intriguing than the provider physique, a bit of intellect or emotions may be! All this is fine and good as long as both parties stick to the rules of the game!


A client is a client and a friend is a friend! Can a client be a friend or a friend be a client? It is a glaring conflict of interest to me. Now some of the gents may step forward to bite me and say what is wrong with being a friend with a provider and my direct response would be is your friend still charging you for her time? I guess it is time to wake up from the illusion!

[Rantsalot]

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The idea of providing fantasy has been chatted about in previous threads on numerous occasions. Anyone who is anyone here knows that anything I write is sincere and I also do not obfuscate issues..

[xoxJanexox]

The idea of providing fantasy has been chatted about in previous threads on numerous occasions. Anyone who is anyone here knows that anything I write is sincere and I also do not obfuscate issues..

Your posting history speaks for itself! There is a depth to the question you are throwing in this thread. It always adds to the rendezvous that both parties engage in some intellectual dialogue. Unfortunately not all gents are into that and the same can be said about the gurls.

[toban]

The idea of this thread seems to be sincere to me but I would always caution from stepping the boundaries with clients. Let me shock the audience a little bit! This business is about creating an illusion! An escape from the reality, the mundane, to the fantasy land. It is true that some gents want something more intriguing than the provider physique, a bit of intellect or emotions may be! All this is fine and good as long as both parties stick to the rules of the game!


A client is a client and a friend is a friend! Can a client be a friend or a friend be a client?It is a glaring conflict of interest to me. Now some of the gents may step forward to bite me and say what is wrong with being a friend with a provider and my direct response would be is your friend still charging you for her time? I guess it is time to wake up from the illusion!

I fully understand you're coming from xoxJanexox and probably can agree in general with your views but you must consider that there are friends and then there are "friends" from whom favours may flow. It is the former of which I spoke earlier.

For example, one can have a friendly relationship with the server at Hortons where neither party expects any special consideration other than a smile and a kind word to help start their day. I hold that a similar friendliness between escort and client is something to be encouraged, for in the end, the payback or dividend will be in the added enjoyment of a more convivial, responsive time!

Right?

[ricco220273]

Just getting down to business can be very hot
but being friendly and exchanging some chit chat over a couple of drinks and getting to know each other a bit can before hand can be arousing as well
just my two cents

[peter68]

I am not sure Peter. Perhaps girls would like to tell but don't as they probably don't get the opportunity very often. Its just that through my experience I've noticed on and offline some guys don't want to take it to that level. Then again on the flip side it could be like you said, girls might not want to give to much away of themselves for various reasons. I just think that if two people get a better understanding of each other it probably makes the connection a whole lot easier.

I agree with your last sentence but I think the reverse is true. If there's a connection between the two of you, there is a comfort zone or maybe trust that occurs over repeated visits. It's intangible but it occurs and if it happens then maybe a decision is made to get a better understanding of each other's lives. Treat people with respect and the way you would like to be treated and hopefully the rest will follow.

[toban]

Always, treat others as you wish to be treated yourself!

- - - - - - If there's a connection between the two of you, there is a comfort zone or maybe trust that occurs over repeated visits. It's intangible but it occurs and if it happens then maybe a decision is made to get a better understanding of each other's lives. Treat people with respect and the way you would like to be treated and hopefully the rest will follow.

Right on Peter! That is exactly the point I have been trying to put forth in this thread! This follows from the old Biblical teaching "Do unto others - - - - - - " but of course, this principle applies not only to relationships between escorts and their clients but to relations between providers and clients of all sorts and in all venues, and even unto such huge undertakings as intergovernmental negotiations.

[peter68]

Right on Peter! That is exactly the point I have been trying to put forth in this thread! This follows from the old Biblical teaching "Do unto others - - - - - - " but of course, this principle applies not only to relationships between escorts and their clients but to relations between providers and clients of all sorts and in all venues, and even unto such huge undertakings as intergovernmental negotiations.

Thanks Toban. It's really the right thing to do. I don't think anyone likes getting treated poorly at work, life, etc. so why do it to others?

[xoxJanexox]

I fully understand you're coming from xoxJanexox and probably can agree in general with your views but you must consider that there are friends and then there are "friends" from whom favours may flow. It is the former of which I spoke earlier.

For example, one can have a friendly relationship with the server at Hortons where neither party expects any special consideration other than a smile and a kind word to help start their day. I hold that a similar friendliness between escort and client is something to be encouraged, for in the end, the payback or dividend will be in the added enjoyment of a more convivial, responsive time!

Mr. Toban, I can assure you that most gurls who care about their reputation would greet you with more genuine smile and friendly atmosphere when their premiums are taken care of! The reason I say more genuine is that a cute little girl at Tim Horton (10$/hr) or a spinner waitress (15$/hr) in a fancy restaurant would do such as part of customer service and their boss is watching them. A provider getting 250 - 300 $/hr would be stupid not to provide immaculate customer service!

My post was actually an indirect response to your earlier post as I was indirectly on the word "actual friendships":

I first began inviting GG escorts into my home many years ago. There, I treated them as I would any other guest in my home and as you have suggested, yes there were definite dividends and payback to that approach and over the years, actual friendships did occur and still exist to this day. Such intimacy did not occur easily and took time to mature for most girls tend to be reluctant to allowing anyone to get too close too quickly as peter68 says.

[toban]

Mr. Toban, I can assure you that most gurls who care about their reputation would greet you with more genuine smile and friendly atmosphere when their premiums are taken care of! - - - - My post was actually an indirect response to your earlier post as I was indirectly on the word "actual friendships":

I know, I know and just FYI the premium was always in plain sight, fanned out on the coffee table well before their arrival. I have lost the numbers, but the number of actual friendships is minimal and I can count them only using the fingers on one hand, no thumb!