US Traitor sentenced to 35 years wants sex change now.

[Rockheart]

So this dude gets sentenced to 35 years in Levenworth and he suddenly wants to become the girl he always was.
Can't anyone pull this bullshit? Sure he was a crossdresser in the past but who hasn't been to some extent?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/23/army-cant-say-if-manning-gender-swap-would-be-permitted/

This is how many men get out of mandatory military service in Thailand, become a Ladyboy.
To me it just seems like a scam to get out of spending time in the general population.
Probably special treatment in a medical facility.
He can go through all the motions and keep putting off the final surgery saying he is not ready or something.

I don't know if this should be allowed after men are convicted of essentially a life sentence.
Isn't this all part of freedom?

[Raging Bob]

Now he wants to be a "Bernadette" Arnold!!

[Ginnydawn]

hmmm

i beleive the facts are that she told the military over two years ago about transition..and the trans network has known since 2011 that Chelsea was the name...dont be duped by misinformation

[Ginnydawn]

some info

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...-informer.html

[WastedYouth]

He/she has said that joining military was an attempt to curb thought and desire to become a woman.

[Ginnydawn]

...not uncommon

many trans women gto to highly stressful careers..ie military,police etc to try to be as male as possible to hide there gender..its not rare..

[ToniaLee]

You laugh now. Just wait till Leaktrap here get's Shemaleyum superstar and makes all of us look like Bruce Willis in pig tails. Watch.

[Rockheart]

i beleive the facts are that she told the military over two years ago about transition..and the trans network has known since 2011 that Chelsea was the name...dont be duped by misinformation

I'm not being duped by misinformation.

I don't think he/she should be allowed the freedom to suddenly want to transition and make everyone jump through hoops just to pander to this one person who lost their freedom due to committing a crime.

To me this is just a way to make life easier and get special treatment.

He had a choice, finish his service then transition if that is what he wants.

Instead, he sold out his country and now wants to transition at the expense of everyone else.

Just a scam to get out of his punishment, I think.

Anyone can be a crossdresser or have a female personae, this doesn't necessarily mean they are transsexual.
Every guy has a female side.
Why didn't he just pursue this before?

I don't buy it, just a selfish claim of transsexuality for personal gain.
When will society put a stop to this bullshit.

[Ginnydawn]

okay

heres the deal..i knew two years ago of her gender identity..and the bullshit of special treatment claiming to be transsexual??..what the fuck..she'll be lucky to survive..thats the truth..the nonsense of people paying for hrt?..bullshit without a real life experience letter of living fulltime you dont get hrt in prison..and where in america is srs paid for for anyone? no where..certainly not in prison..this is being spun by the military to make them look like the good guys and Chelsea as grasping at straws..
being an admirer doesnt make you knowledgeable about what its like to be ts..period..what i find disturbing is people who claim to love and or support us immediately buying the spin.two years ago i chatted to friends in the uk support group ive been with since 2005 about Chelsea Manning..so its suddenly being cast as something she just thought up?..and since when has american military or american media or government been so accepting of us as transwomen ..lmao pathetic

[Ginnydawn]

furthermore

personal gain?..lol..yeah right..im on this site as an escort because i lost my career of being a pro jazz fusion musician for 35 years touring across canada and europe cuz i transitioned..i first attempted it in 1977..lasted 3 years til i was repeatedly gang raped by 4 men..no one with any brains chooses to be transsexual..your born that way its certainly not a choice..and every guy has a female side?? what youre all born with the wrontg brain in youre body and wired like us?..rediculous

[toban]

Regardless of whether this gambit is appropriate or not, I feel that Chelsea will quickly become the most popular guy in the cell block!

[Ginnydawn]

yeah rape and assault are such funny subjects

[Rockheart]

heres the deal..i knew two years ago of her gender identity..and the bullshit of special treatment claiming to be transsexual??..what the fuck..she'll be lucky to survive..thats the truth..the nonsense of people paying for hrt?..bullshit without a real life experience letter of living fulltime you dont get hrt in prison..and where in america is srs paid for for anyone? no where..certainly not in prison..this is being spun by the military to make them look like the good guys and Chelsea as grasping at straws..
being an admirer doesnt make you knowledgeable about what its like to be ts..period..what i find disturbing is people who claim to love and or support us immediately buying the spin.two years ago i chatted to friends in the uk support group ive been with since 2005 about Chelsea Manning..so its suddenly being cast as something she just thought up?..and since when has american military or american media or government been so accepting of us as transwomen ..lmao pathetic

I am not saying she didn't have these feelings before.
If she tried to get rid of them by entering the army, I don't care.
Everyone has fucking feelings you, him, me were not special.

The fact is he was charged with 35 years in prison for breaking the law and betraying his country.
I personally think this person has no right to do anything but go to prison and take his lumps.
If he wanted to be a woman, then he should have done that instead of joining the army.
He joined as a man and sold out as a man, he should go to jail as a man and serve his time.
I have made bad choice and I got screwed because of it, why should this person be any different.

Letting him transition, no matter who pays for it, is bullshit and a right he should not have.
He will get segregation and probably get all sorts of special treatment.
He will not get his ass whooped like he should, not because he may be TS, but because he is a traitor.
He swore and oath to protect and serve, the fact he is a transsexual has absolutely nothing to do with that.
He made the choice and the obligation and should not be able to weasel out of it for any reason.
I don't forgive traitors, that is my right.

I sure hope you are not telling me I am an admirer that knows nothing about transsexuals.
If so, i seriously take offense.
Just because you have certain feelings doesn't mean you have the monopoly on them.
Just because you have had hardship, doesn't mean others haven't
All this bullshit in your life has nothing to do with this conversation.
I have had the hardest of times in my life too but I am not using it as an excuse for my argument.

Speak to the argument and not your insecurities, nothing that happen to you has anything to do with this.
Do you think it is any easier being attracted to TS than being one, sometimes it is worse because I have no rights at all.

I have been in the SRS operating room and sat outside while my GF transitioned and was there when she came out.
It is all published here on the forum.
I think you should read a little about me before you insult me personally.
I don't recall calling you a bunch of names for expressing your opinion.

The fact is people do use transsexualism for money and special treatment.
Some are legit others are not, but know one knows for sure, that is the problem.

[Ginnydawn]

k

point well made and taken...didnt mean any personal insult to anyone...its just being misrepresented in the timeline of when she came out as trans,k...sure..she signed on for the job and has been convicted..fair enough..but the delivery of the media saying that this was a sudden thing is a lie..the military knew a long time ago..making it look like all of a sudden this happened is nonsense..and i admit i get set off by things that act as triggers..thats my issues and really have not much to do with this..i make the mistake of posting with emotion without forethought..and i do apologize for that..im a big girl and can take resposibiliuty for going off..im sorry

[Rockheart]

point well made and taken...didnt mean any personal insult to anyone...its just being misrepresented in the timeline of when she came out as trans,k...sure..she signed on for the job and has been convicted..fair enough..but the delivery of the media saying that this was a sudden thing is a lie..the military knew a long time ago..making it look like all of a sudden this happened is nonsense..and i admit i get set off by things that act as triggers..thats my issues and really have not much to do with this..i make the mistake of posting with emotion without forethought..and i do apologize for that..im a big girl and can take resposibiliuty for going off..im sorry

I am also considering the fact that being a traitor to your country is on of the highest most loathed things an American can do.
In true American fashion he should be hung from the highest yard arm or whatever.
The fact they spared his life is incredible in itself.

My main point is the transgender stuff is just clouding the issue.
This is exactly how lawyers misuse this diagnosis, not necessarily in this case, but how do you know?

The person is a traitor, they should either be a regular prisoner or solitary confinement.
Not solitary because they are TG, but because they are a traitor.

The fact that compassion has creeped into the US military, will be it's downfall in the end.