What about real relationships?

[Zechs]

For all the twomen out there, what about real long term relationships? it seems every site ignores that part and only focuses on the working girls or porn ladies. Don't any tladies actually want an LTR?

[rider014]

For all the twomen out there, what about real long term relationships? it seems every site ignores that part and only focuses on the working girls or porn ladies. Don't any tladies actually want an LTR?

Trust me bud that's probably an avenue you don't want to go down. I'm sure that all of the t-girls everywhere will eventually end up in a meaningful relationship at some point in their lives but, for the escorts and porn stars I'm guessing that it isn't really something that they are focused on at the moment. As guys, that is just maybe another fantasy we all may have at one time or another. T-girls are people and people need to be loved by nature. So I'm guessing the answer is yes.... Just not right now

[VanessaBell]

To be honest escorting kind of ruined dating for me, as the whole "I could be getting paid for this" is always in the back of my mind. This is also reinforced by the fact that most guys would either say no once I told them I'm transsexual, say yes but be really uneasy about it, or be so ignorant about it that I lose interest anyway. Just doesn't seem worth it. I'm sure at some point in my life I'll be interested, but even if I was at the moment, doing sex work while being in a relationship with somebody would probably really bother me.

[Guest]

I agree with VanessaBell

Hi Zechs,

How could my "boyfriend" be okay with me (his girlfriend) sleeping around for money?
How will you feel when i tell you, "Okay, wake up! You have to leave for two hours because some man is coming over to kiss me and screw me, and i will blow him and taste his cum and blah blah blah..you want to go through all of that. I don't think i could tolerate a guy hanging around for the free sex. Get in line, please.

Hmm. Lets' try to figure why a guy would allow that.

1. He won't feel any jealousy for what she does with other men? That's love?
2. He needs money or a place to stay?
3. He wants to hang out with her t-girl friends and maybe have 3-somes?
4. He wants free great sex?
5. Maybe he wants a piece of the action by bringing her new clients (his friends) and wanting a cut of her income?
6. Maybe he is a CD and wants to borrow her clothes?
7. Maybe he wants to dress as a woman and become escort, too?
8. T-girls are sort of easy to dump, once you've had your (sexual) fill. He could always say to the girl as a reason to break up, "My family, friends, co workers are ridiculing me because of you, and i can't take it any more. Sorry but we have to break up." Too easy!
9. Most guys look at shemale porn and decide they want one for their own for THAT reason only (sex).
10. They consider us like an easy target for acceptance and love that we don't get from family and former friends?

It's just all wrong to come into an escort site and expect the girls to be your girlfriends.

Check out the chat room at www.urnotalone.com. Or do a search in URNA for t-girls in your area, worldwide, and post your LTR offers there. Most of those t-girls there are not escorts and are there to find men to accept them. Try there.

If you find one you think is really hot, and she's an escort, i am sure you can expect the same sort of responses you are getting here from the escorts.

I hope this is helpful information.

Good luck.
Babe,
xoxo

P.S.
http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showth...758#post426758

[rider014]

Easy on the poor fella Babe, remember settling me down earlier this week
maybe he crushed as I did and is having that girlfriend fantasy. Don't get me wrong as I still care but a reality has also set in regarding the situation. Every point you make is pure logic plain and simple but even you yes you will find that special someone someday right?

[Guest]

I was going easy. I am always easy going in the open forum.

Hi Rider,

I don't think i was being hard on Zechs.
I even pointed him in the right direction where t-girls are looking for LTRs.

I was just letting him know how it looks when a guy wants to have an escort for an LTR.
THAT would be MUCH harsher than what i've posted.

I am a really nice girl. Maybe what i write does not have the same emotion as it would if i were actually speaking with my mouth.
I respond and maybe people take me the wrong way, i dunno. You should hear my voice when i speak, it's quite gentle. There is not a mean bone in me unless i am really being attacked. Even then, i stay polite - but firm.

I can be really harsh when i've had enough unfair abuse, but i think the only people in here who has seen that in print a mod or two, and that was about, maybe in 2004 or 2005 when i first joined here and quit after about a month.

When i seek someone, it won't be a guy in a site like this who knows what i do.

Anyway.
Kisses to you and Zechs
Babe,

[rider014]

Hi Babe
If your posts are any indication you are the furthest thing from mean, I think you're awesome back to Zechs, did anything shake down that gave you these thoughts?

[Guest]

Yes

Hi rider,
"...shake down...", meaning already happened in my life as an escort with boyfriends? To be honest, no, not at all. I have just had really nice "professional relations" with my "visitors". Nothing outside of my apartment, nothing for free, unless it was extra time after the session ended.

I once invited a regular over because he was sick and wanted company. We decided that nothing would happen and that we would only watch a movie (not porn).
And as i feared, he was soon all over me, wanting sex. We ended up having sex anyway, sort of a quicky, and then he left before the movie ended. I felt used.

The next morning i was puking my guts out because whatever he was sick with, he gave to me.
I was not happy at all. He ended up paying me later for the session but i was still sick for several days afterwards.

So, try putting raw meat in front of a wolf and tell him to sit there looking in the other direction.

He later accused me of turning him on by just sitting there and cuddling with him watching the movie.

See? It's pointless. If i hadn't insisted on being paid for it, he wouldn't have offered it.
And men do that stuff with women all the time.

In Japan, if a Japanese woman allows a Japanese man into her bedroom, he can basically rape her, and it's okay. "She asked for it", they'll say. I read that once, i am not sure if it's actually true.

Anyhoo, i am off to bed. Bet you wish you were there, eh?
Nighty-night.
Babe,
xoxo

[TSFantasia]

For all the twomen out there, what about real long term relationships? it seems every site ignores that part and only focuses on the working girls or porn ladies. Don't any tladies actually want an LTR?

Yes of course almost every TG/TS woman's long-term goal is to find love in a LT committed relationship. Those involved in escorting most likely don't find this a realistic goal while continuing to work in the sex trade but instead opt for FWBs and non-exclusive casual relationships. This doesn't mean giving guys a free pass as most guys have downgraded "FWB" to mean "fuck buddy" only. It is someone you share a friendship with enjoy spending time with in private and in public and also enjoy having great sex with. If a girl who is escorting wants to have a relationship it is not an impossibility she would need to cut back her hrs and days of availability to allow for quality time with her BF, who of course would have to be open-minded and definitely not the jealous type!
Can't believe I'm saying it again but try TSDating.Com for local TG/TS girls who are looking for guys for relationships in your area. If that is their stated intention and yours, if you then try to set up a discreet only sex hookup expect them to do the same thing I do to guys. I tell them to F.O.! and then block them. I get PAID for quickies, sex hook ups, discreet "dates"
Most attractive, passable trans women have no shortage of available guys for sex hookups whenever they choose to say "Yes sure come over lets F@#* " What they are missing is friendship, companionship, and someone who cares about them as a person. Give it a shot see what happens. Best of luck

[rider014]

Actually I was asking Zechs but I think he left. Good night have awesome dreams!

[dom r]

For all the women out there, what about real long term relationships?

real relationship as in real love and affection,to hug and hold,kiss all over and to be deeply in love? I think only lesbians get that because lets face it,women dont want that with a man. Not complaining,escorts or porno are the best,they cannot take a man's house or alimony, they get paid per service and thats how it should be between every man and woman, although with porno you just pay once.

[Zechs]

I'd like to clarify that this was not about dating an escort but just a question for twomen in general. It just seems that every site is purely porn or for escorts. Many seem to ignore the larger community as a whole. I can understand about twomen worrying about men only wanting one thing or them being insecure about the situation as those concerns make plenty of sense, just feels like real relationships are incredibly difficult from what I see. Many twomen seem to avoid them all together. Just my observation.

[ooshower]

I couldn't agree more. I wouldn't mind having a relationship with a TGirl as long as she is beautiful inside and out

Yes of course almost every TG/TS woman's long-term goal is to find love in a LT committed relationship. Those involved in escorting most likely don't find this a realistic goal while continuing to work in the sex trade but instead opt for FWBs and non-exclusive casual relationships. This doesn't mean giving guys a free pass as most guys have downgraded "FWB" to mean "fuck buddy" only. It is someone you share a friendship with enjoy spending time with in private and in public and also enjoy having great sex with. If a girl who is escorting wants to have a relationship it is not an impossibility she would need to cut back her hrs and days of availability to allow for quality time with her BF, who of course would have to be open-minded and definitely not the jealous type!
Can't believe I'm saying it again but try TSDating.Com for local TG/TS girls who are looking for guys for relationships in your area. If that is their stated intention and yours, if you then try to set up a discreet only sex hookup expect them to do the same thing I do to guys. I tell them to F.O.! and then block them. I get PAID for quickies, sex hook ups, discreet "dates"
Most attractive, passable trans women have no shortage of available guys for sex hookups whenever they choose to say "Yes sure come over lets F@#* " What they are missing is friendship, companionship, and someone who cares about them as a person. Give it a shot see what happens. Best of luck

[dan_calgary]

possible but very very unlikely

ok my two cents, again, sorry, but being honest,

bottom line is NO not gonna happen,

unless you have 3/4 minimum, money, looks, cock, personality,

one thing most forget, and probaly only 50% or less, most trans girls want a relationship with another trans girl, so that does most of us in,

now your hope is that most girls don't want to spend their life being an escort, but it does excite and entice them, and can you really afford them ??

there are girls out there that don't escort, but very very few and far between, and good luck meeting up with them,

what else can I say, a client for way too long, time for a change

[Kisa]

unless you have 3/4 minimum, money, looks, cock, personality

Agree with you, but don't judge t-girls harshly if all they think about is money tho. Ask her first what does she need money for.

I've closed my eyes and imagined: well here I am - my surgeries are done, I look as i wanted. I see that I'm with my man. He loves me, he smiles, he holding my hand... Simple. I bet, after my surgeries my boyfriend checklist will be pretty much the same to Genetic Girls.