What A TG Woman Wants & Needs **For Top Guys Only**

[Gypsy1955]

Tops for guys

Sucking on a T-girl's dick just gives every guy, straight, bi or gay , the opportunity to do what most have tried to do at some point in their life and that is to suck their own dicks. LOL. I know would never get guys out of the house if they could do that!
There are a lot of straight guys who do not like going down on bio women. A penis is easier to keep clean than a vagina.

when younger I tried to suck my own but flexibility issues and being only 7+", I couldn't do it lol. with masturbation I when I get some on my hand even smell grosses me out. I think because although it's my own, it's from a man. As for vagina...well, I must say...that's what I live for maybe oral fixation but the taste (must be clean!!!) the feel, a woman orgasm on your face...AMAZING is the only way I can describe it. But not to worry. When I see a beautiful, sexy T-girl well, that's quite amazing also. Worth getting out of the house for lol

[xoxJanexox]

Let's face it, the whole sex industry, including escorting, is premised on fantasy. Take the fantasy part out of it and most escorts will end up being jobless.

I am a "top only" provider and can tell you that there are "top only" clients out there. What is their percentage? I honestly don't know, but I believe they are minority.

When a client come to see a beautiful t-girl or gg, this in itself is a fantasy, let alone how the encounter unfolds. What are the chances for the same client to pick up the same girl from a night club for example. It is almost next to ZERO.

[TSFantasia]

Now bottom-orientated guys can be every bit as well mannered, nice guys as those who are tops. They obviously discovered anal stimulation and that's what they like so if they are going out every few months to pay for a T-Girl SP that is their choice and maybe the only chance they get to experience this before they go back to their wives/gfs and carry on their duties as the role model top male during sex. Doesn't make them gay and as someone who hangs out at a gay/lesbian club, because there are no T-girl clubs/bars here, I can tell you that "out of the closet" gay guys are not interested in me sexually. Now I can't really say what guys sexually activities are like in between their paid visits to a SP. So what their sexual orientation is I don't know.

Bringing it out of that context again back to dating I wouldn't date a bottom because we would be fighting like cats and dogs. Not only would it be as to who got to bottom most, or last night was your turn tonight is my turn. It would be every time and the fight would be who gets to go first! Also bottoms are going to want the TG woman to drag her heels when it comes to her taking her hormones, if they affect her erections or the amount she cums. They will dissuade her from getting her SRS as he would most likely lose interest in her shortly after that.
And when guys say "Why else would a guy be interested in a TS?" Same reason they are any woman: looks, body, personality and compatibility! A lot of -girls are "10"'s in most of these areas! And lets face it in real life a lot of you have NEVER rated a 10 or scored a 10 GF in your life!

So a TG woman needs a man who though able to enjoy her in the in- between stage will also be happy to stay with her when she has a vagina. My last BF leaned over to me one night when we were out for drinks at the Club "So does my dating you make me bisexual?" I replied, "Well maybe just a little bit for a little while, but then you will be back to being straight. "

[TSFantasia]

Too Funny

LOL Too funny I am having this exact convo with a guy on POF today..like right now!

[cameeindos]

lulz.. well as per my earlier points, i was just saying a reason why some are tops and some are bottoms lol.. that said, i could never fuck or get fucked by a man, and a woman's appearance is just as much part of it as the cock to me. the cock isn't the only thing, but then it is one of the major points amongst others IMO. As a side point, i'd say if one only likes boobs, body, face, curves, then why not only date/fuck GGs? but then that's a discussion for another time lol.. I fully get when TSs say that in relationships they want to bottom only, because i guess transition is mental and physical adjustment.

[TSFantasia]

Finally.... A thread that addresses someone like me, yaaaay. I will never be a bottom nor will I ever suck a cock, or swallow, or even have a t-girl shoot all over me! So I guess the question would be," Why am I attracted to t-girls"? I don't even have a definite answer for that myself, so it would be pretty hard for someone else to tell me why! My best reasoning would be that beyond the looks, which can be stunning and getting better all the time, would be the passion of wanting to be a woman. A lot of the GG's today I find, take being a woman for granted and it shows up in an arrogant attitude which I find an absolute turn off. It could be that simple, or something else that I haven't figured out yet, but in my limited experience with t-girls, it's been a positive experience.

I guess you will figure out the definitive answer to that. Maybe its the taboo nature of sex with a TS that is the adrenaline rush or sexual steroid? I think for a lot of guys its their overall attraction to a woman's appearance, mannerisms, sexuality, etc. that has nothing to do with the woman's genitals. The attraction and arousal comes way before getting that far. Also men's attraction to a women's vagina is a learned response associating it with sexual pleasure (when I put my dick in there it feels wet and warm and good!). A lot of vaginas look disgusting as one GF called some as having "meat curtains". And that's why we call it "bumping uglies" Lol.

One client has seen me at least a dozen times (I know "Lalalalalalala" ). He has NEVER seen my genitals! He told me the first time.."Keep your panties on I don't want to see your junk!" Yet he keeps coming back... why? Again probably the taboo nature of it, because anal sex feels better than vaginal sex? Knowing its there even though he doesn't see it? Not sure but I think that's a new chapter for Diary of a TS Call Girl

[Guest]

...the tip of your dick will have crap on it...

Hi all,

Well, what this tg woman wants (or likes) is a top guy. I don't really like bottom guys asking me to screw their butts mainly because they have no idea how to completely clean themselves out to receive anal.
I hear many people using words like "the tip of your dick will have crap on it"... ...that whole idea just makes me shrivel up.

I tell bottom guys who want me to top them that i won't stand for anything brown on me, or on my bed. No way, Jos?!
They seem to think that a little brown on the tip of the clit is normal and to be expected.

The smell of it, the appearance of it and even the thought of it just...makes me gag, mentally. The actual sight of someone else's poop on me, touching me, even if am in a condom, simply turns my stomach, and my whole demeanor changes. You know?...that's like some guy just scatted on me for free. I don't do scat.

I can't understand what some girls mean when they say that they are mainly bottoms but they can top only for money. You need an erection to top a guy, so there has to be an attraction, or mental fantasy that drives your erection into his tunnel.
I can't see how mere money is that much of a turn on in that respect. If that's the case, that person could do anything, even the grossest things imaginable for money, like have sex with an animal, eat human feces, eat vomit or whatever gross things you can think of. Me topping a guy who might crap on me is just as gross to me as those very disgusting things i've just mentioned.
If someone can top a guy just because there is money involved, but then won't eat feces for money, makes me wonder - what's the difference?...if money is money according to you, do your job.
There is more than meets the eye, there, and i am not criticizing nor am i judging, i am just questioning, on the board, but i do have my own beliefs in my head on that matter which i will keep to myself because it's just too touchy a topic to try to get into with a person who would even say something like that and thinks it makes sense. The conversation would not go well because of arrogance and a lack of life experiences.
I am older and i seen a lot, as far as, guys' asses and my clit goes. I have been around this scene since i was very young. Well, not the professional escort scene, of course. However, i wish i could have beem introduced to it when i was young, because i was certainly groomed for it.
I knew what sex was when most kids my age were trading baseball cards, watching cartoons on television and spitting at the girls.
I was a toy boy, sex hustler since i was 13, but i was introduced to hetro intercourse when i was only 8, and what she did to me didn't happen only a few times, it went on for years and years. It really screwed me up - as a TG. Which is why, i am the way i am.
And dear ole mom, sure played a different part regarding my self TG identity.
Looking back at those times makes me really furious now, because i see how it all really affected me negatively, and how it horribly derailed my self identity and my chances for an early transition which would have been imminent had only i could have just been LEFT ALONE as a kid, sexually. I wouldn't be in this ridiculous predicament in which i live my life - half in half out - if i was just left alone to develop into the person i am now.
Can't spin back time now can we.
Anyway, i went off track there, sorry for that.

I am a SP, yes, but i have my standards, and perhaps my standards don't make me a very, oh, i dunno...."good SP' for bottom men. It does depend on the gentleman.
I can handle using a dildo on them but it's the crap factor that has me spooked and skeptical.

I rather like topping a slim man whose butt is smooth and hairless so long as he wears some female clothes so that i can fantasize that he is a fem under me.
But there is still the darned crap factor. I don't like playing craps, at all - i am not a gambler.

I have topped some of my "normally top visitors" and believe it or not, they were clean. They have have been with me for years and are gentlemen with whom i've developed a close bond. It was done only once to each of them. It never became a regular thing, but the circumstances were welcoming to my mind when it did happen. It was more like i dared them and they said, "Okay, let's try."
It was like "magic" if you will. I joke about it with them once in a while and we laugh about how they walked funny for a few days with loose stools lol.
Poor guys! I so love 'em so.

I just can't top a guy as soon as i meet him unless he explains how he's cleaned himself out, in explicit detail, and he's willing to wear some fem clothes and not be constantly reaching for my clit to try to jerk it off. Then, i could be okay with topping a man.

But i really do like being the girl in bed. That role is less confusing for me and it just feels more natural to me. Even the way i like to be sucked is very demanding on most gents. I am not easy to get "there".

I take a lot of pride in saying that i ass to mouth with a wink and a grin even after a large dick has screwed me. That's how clean i am in there.
To any of the bottom men who ventured into here to learn something new, i ask you, would you ass to mouth my clit if i managed to get it inside of you? Are you THAT clean? Are you that sure?...coz i might just ask you to to mouth what was just probing your back side.

That's pretty much how it works for me.

I hope i didn't ramble on, too much, Fantasia.

Good discussion.
Babe,
xoxo

[Gypsy1955]

I guess you will figure out the definitive answer to that. Maybe its the taboo nature of sex with a TS that is the adrenaline rush or sexual steroid? I think for a lot of guys its their overall attraction to a woman's appearance, mannerisms, sexuality, etc. that has nothing to do with the woman's genitals. The attraction and arousal comes way before getting that far. Also men's attraction to a women's vagina is a learned response associating it with sexual pleasure (when I put my dick in there it feels wet and warm and good!). A lot of vaginas look disgusting as one GF called some as having "meat curtains". And that's why we call it "bumping uglies" Lol.

One client has seen me at least a dozen times (I know "Lalalalalalala" ). He has NEVER seen my genitals he told me the first time.."Keep you panties on I don't want to see your junk!" Yet he keeps coming back why? Again probably the taboo nature of it, because anal sex feels better than vaginal sex? Knowing its there even though he doesn't see it? Not sure but I think that's a new chapter for Diary of a TS Call Girl

I realize for me that I went back because I liked her and was attracted to the person and who she was. Exactly as you said. I gave oral and am still not sure that I enjoyed doing it but what I did enjoy was pleasing my sexual partner. I discovered it nothing to do with the "junk". I concluded that you only live once and if I'm curious about it...then I'm a gonna do it! My attraction to vagina was natural not learned. I had to learn to treat it properly, make love to it properly, kiss it properly, all that other stuff. But the attraction was there before Long before I had ever seen one or knew what it was for. And I've seen many For your repeat client, maybe he's in denial? However...you look very lovely, so...why not

[TSFantasia]

LOL Too funny I am having this exact convo with a guy on POF today..like right now!

"I know I know me too I want to date a tgirl but sex is the most exciting part I will be honest I am a virgin when it comes to anal but I want to try it with you I just like the whole idea even you don't want to do it often but I would like to I am very curious baby I want to feel how it is in the anal please it would be so nice if you take my virginity I just want to feel lol how it is must be really good but I don't like doing it with guys because tgirls have the best of both worlds and it turns me on the most that a girl is in guys position while guy is in her role switching " -MY POF GUY

"Yes I understand that and I would occasionally but when guys are too pushy that way it just turns me off because they are not letting me be the woman and I'm the one going through the sex change " - ME

[TSFantasia]

Hit the Nail Right On the Head

Good discussion.
Babe,
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This whole thing has been my biggest turn off in topping guys and this subject was my first post on the forum "I Told You To Use An Enema Before The Anal Sex Scenes!" Go back and read it when you get the chance. Not that all guys are that ignorant in this area but a lot of guys are. They see the anal sex scenes on guy/girl or guy/t-girl porn and they say "Looks like good clean fun!" Again the reality of anal sex is that it isn't something you can do spur of the moment without crappy results..lol. I will have a number of good experiences with some clients then the bad ones happen and you get to the point mentally that you just can't do it money or not!
And even at times when I do offer it and a guy makes it clear that's the ONLY thing he is interested in from the session I tell them "Don't bother then!" As I know everything they do is going to turn me off. They are not going to show any interest in any part of me than my dick which they will keep asking "Are you hard enough yet?" ... not having done anything to even remotely arouse me.

[Alexis]

Really!?!?!?

Finally.... A thread that addresses someone like me, yaaaay. I will never be a bottom nor will I ever suck a cock, or swallow, or even have a t-girl shoot all over me! So I guess the question would be," Why am I attracted to t-girls"? I don't even have a definite answer for that myself, so it would be pretty hard for someone else to tell me why! My best reasoning would be that beyond the looks, which can be stunning and getting better all the time, would be the passion of wanting to be a woman. A lot of the GG's today I find, take being a woman for granted and it shows up in an arrogant attitude which I find an absolute turn off. It could be that simple, or something else that I haven't figured out yet, but in my limited experience with t-girls, it's been a positive experience.

Really?!?

Got a pic? Stats? lol.. seriously..

I find it almost impossible to find a guy that doesn't want to have my dick down his throat or in his ass..

You're what I would define as a "real straight guy"

Unlike the straight guys that suck my dick.. lol..

My guess is you see sexy tgirls for what we are.. sexy women..

[rider014]

Bingo!

Really?!?

Got a pic? Stats? lol.. seriously..

I find it almost impossible to find a guy that doesn't want to have my dick down his throat or in his ass..

You're what I would define as a "real straight guy"

Unlike the straight guys that suck my dick.. lol..

My guess is you see sexy tgirls for what we are.. sexy women..

Your last comment Alexis pretty much sums it up, that could of all things be the simplest explanation as I've got nothing else. As for my stats? All I'll say is that I'm not the tall dark handsome guy you could be envisioning. Picture? C'mon, maybe at best in a PM, as with most guys on here, I'm sure they like to keep themselves as mysterious as possible

[TSFantasia]

Really?!?

Got a pic? Stats? lol.. seriously..

I find it almost impossible to find a guy that doesn't want to have my dick down his throat or in his ass..

You're what I would define as a "real straight guy"

Unlike the straight guys that suck my dick.. lol..

My guess is you see sexy tgirls for what we are.. sexy women..

Well that is your speciality and I'm sure with your endowment that's going to be your main client base. But in the real world I'm sure you would prefer a top guy or versatile guy , who allows you at least a 60/40 split in your favour

[aguyoutthere1]

Very interesting thread. I've never formally dated a TS before, so my only input is based on who I have met. I always thought that most girls preferred to top. At least in their professional lives.

As an example, I've watched the most popular girls in Toronto on both sides, and to me, there seems to be a more genuine lust in their eyes as they are topping me. Almost animalistic (new word) at times. Could be my damn pleasure/pain face changes. LOL

I do remember one time with one girl who was pretty new, she was surprised that I preferred to top. Up to that point she told me that every man she met wanted her to top. So I assumed men were very interested in being penetrated.

I do agree that you should all be looked at, admired and worshiped as the beautiful women you are. For me, having that cock is just an added bonus.

Maybe I just like seeing a real orgasm and knowing it was not fake. LOL.
Who am I kidding, I just love sex, all kinds of sex.


KC

[Gypsy1955]

Tops only

Ms. Devine, I'm surprised to see your opinion as such. I'm not sure if it's sarcasm? But my take from it is that it's ok to fuck a tgirl but not to suck her or get topped or you're gay. OK, We've established that all of your clients are gay. I can assure you I'm as straight as the gent who fucks a tgirl in the butt but refuses to see or touch her genitals. Or to have any of her cum be seen and absolutely not be anywhere on his body. He finishes, you can go jerk yourself off for your own satisfaction. I think you would tire of that very quickly. For me I enjoy giving oral, it's the most personal and intimate thing a person can do to another. It's the absolute #1 foreplay bar none! Close your eyes and think of being seduced, a hot wet tongue tickling your neck, down to your shoulders, arms, breasts. Slowly going down your body...little licks and bites. Pinning your arms over your head and licking your rib cage, your belly, sucking and licking your inner thighs, behind your knees, beneath your scrotum, your balls, your ass...tongue flicking and teasing. Get the message? Tell me you wouldn't want that mouth wrapped around your cock!? You'd rather a "straight" guy who will fuck your ass but not give you any of this wonderful pleasures or make you cum? He's still fucking an ass with a set of junk dangling there! Is it a man or a woman he's fucking? My motto is if I can't eat it I can't fuck it. Performing oral really gets my mojo going. I don't take it in the rear either but if I want a session it's not wham bam, I want intimate pleasure and I want my partner pleasured also. If I have to use my mouth and tongue to get the desired results...so be it! I also see the tgirl as a beautiful woman, I will suck her cock to pleasure her...and I'm straight!