H1 N1 (Swine Flu) is back

[Shyla Wild]

Ignorance sees Arrogance

Aids is on the rise...wear a condom
Flu is on the rise...get a shot

What's the problem? The solution is there and you ignore it....that's ignorance. You post health Canada Warnings and Ignore their solution...more ignorance fuelled by your arrogance.

[toban]

On-line information must always be researched and not simply accepted as true!

Aids is on the rise...wear a condom
Flu is on the rise...get a shot

What's the problem? The solution is there and you ignore it....that's ignorance. You post health Canada Warnings and Ignore their solution...more ignorance fuelled by your arrogance.

Exactly! I see the problem being that too many folks are far too willing to accept anything published on the web as gospel and therefore indisputable. In actuality a large part of all web-based information is completely unverifiable, misleading to those who don't understand and therefore very harmful to us all.

One has to be very selective in reading responses to on-line searches. e.g. as we?re currently searching for health related information on the ?flu, thousands of items may be found but the authenticity of any item varies anywhere from 0 to 100%. e.g. A report from a recognized university or Health Canada can generally be accepted as authentic @ 100% but at the other end of the spectrum, sites with flashy videos and possibly a report by some unknown, unverifiable doctor can easily be a complete hoax with 0% authenticity for any one of many reasons:

Yet, such persons or groups may call themselves professional but the information they publish on the web may be totally unverifiable or even completely false. Additionally, such doctor may have no academic background whatsoever. e.g. doctors degrees may be purchsed on-line in some jurisdictions, or perhaps the degree is in gemology rather than in some health related field. You must ask questions!

For this reason when searching the web for specific information we must take care to look for credibility, and the poster's association with reputable institutions!

[Guest]

Listen to your doctors!...

....and all the crap Big Pharma pushes onto us through their doctors.

Hi all,

Let's look how big money can buy advertising time to fool the gullible public into believing something that is totally false and very dangerous JUST so they can make money, money and more money.

Smoking has always been bad for our health and the cigarette makers KNEW smoking was bad but they still endorsed smoking. WHY?
BIG MONEY.

All the ads and links that people add to this thread in support of vaccinations are just as bad.
They post ads and links that come from the very people who either make the vaccinations, invest mega money in the manufacturing of vaccines, and the sales of vaccines.
Do you really think that the very people who invest mega money in vaccine production, distribution and sales (like that computer guy, Bill Gates, for example) will want to lose their precious money investments and all that potential income by saying the real truth about vaccines?

Don't ever think Big Pharma does not pay television and radio BIG MONEY to use the air waves to LIE to us. The television and radio executives/owners are very well paid to let them (BIG MONEY) use the air waves to pollute our brains with misinformation.
That's why most stations will say,
"The opinions expressed by so and so are not the opinions of this station".
THEY DON'T CARE what you hear. Their job is to make money, too.

So yea, of course, when someone posts a link from the CDC, FDA or Health Canada, they will all say that vaccines are great. Do you expect them to say, 'Here are the nasty dangers of using this vaccine?'
Never happen.

But i show you the facts about it. I show you what they don't want you to know because if you knew the truth, you would be like...well...like me...somebody that is informed.

Another example of BIG MONEY is the reason why slaughter houses have walls - if you saw what was going on inside, you would not eat meat.
So they wall the places up, and then allow you to only see quaint little farm designs with healthy cows eating green grass on a beautiful farm. That my dear "friends" is media brainwashing.

There is so much corruption in business they we are not supposed to see. It spoils the lie and smartens us up if we knew. Smart people do smart things WHEN they KNOW what's going on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHBK9iavqEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKMn-_aQoPk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0tWONdhy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-2oQOIXKuY



Here is a great playlist on youtube showing how the tobacco industry lied about the dangers of smoking.
Remember that Health Canada, the FDA and EVERY OTHER health organization on the planet allows cigarettes...ever think to ask yourselves "Why?".
Because of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...C6BDDE50D11D11

Look at this public brain washing tactic!!
BIG PHARMA paid actors doing their jobs!
Watch at the end of this clip to see how rehearsed it all is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uVvq7dbf4s

REAL people who are NOT being paid by BIG PHARMA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IMSUApeW4

A real DOCTOR- she must be as confused and misguided as me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WoMps4Pmpo

Babe,
xoxo

[Shyla Wild]

Of course not. It's your responsibility to read the warning labels.

Here are FACTS:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/dc-ma/i...a-eng.php#h1n1

Here is Health Canada's answer:

What You Can Do?


Washing your hands is more important than ever.

Find out more about the symptoms of the flu and what you can do to lower your risk by consulting the following resources:

• The Flu - a short, easy-to-read factsheet which provides tips to help you prevent the flu.

These fact sheets provide information on why it is important to wash your hands, as well as tips on when and how you should do it.

• Hand Washing - It's Your Health fact sheet
• Hand Washing: Reducing the Risk of Common Infections

Get a Flu Shot!

For more information on flu and flu shot clinics in your area, visit the provincial/territorial links below or contact your local or provincial/territorial health authority:

• Alberta
• British Columbia
• Manitoba
• New Brunswick
• Newfoundland and Labrador
• Northwest Territories
• Nova Scotia
• Nunavut
• Ontario
• Prince Edward Island
• Qu?bec
• Saskatchewan
• Yukon

Here is the side effects of your flu shot. The side effects of H1N1 are death. Seems like when you weigh dead vs side effects, the shot wins everytime. Those people complaining about receiving the shot they got and it's side effects....how many were there? How many got the shot? The numbers match perfects with what health canada percentage stats show.

http://sante.gouv.qc.ca/en/conseils-et-prevention/vaccination-contre-la-grippe/

Side Effects

The vaccination may cause certain reactions.
The Nature and Frequency of Possible Reactions

Frequency	Possible Reaction to Vaccine
In most cases (More than 50% of people)	Pain at the injection site
Very often (Less than 50% of people)	Pain and swelling at the injection site Muscle soreness Headache Fatigue
Often (Less than 10% of people)	Bruising or itching at the injection site Fever, shivering, joint pain and discomfort, particularly in people vaccinated for the first time against flu Red eyes, sore throat, coughing, and difficulty breathing (this is referred to as Ocular respiratory syndrome (ORS)) Runny nose or nasal congestion (caused by intranasal vaccine only)
Sometimes (Less than 1% of people)	Facial swelling; this reaction is part of ORS Skin rash Nausea, dizziness
Rarely (Less than 1 person in 1000)	Convulsions (body stiffens and muscles contract in a jerky and involuntary manner) Numbness Nevralgia (pain along the path of a nerve)

Your videos source are questionable and the media links mean pretty much nothing as the media will twist things to their own personal agenda. Posting videos does little to strengthen you point of view. The fact is simple, the warning from Health Canada is there, their recommendation is there, and the side effects are there. If you choice this option is not for you, do not complain if you find yourself in the ER.

Perhaps the system you use works for you. But for the rest of us that do not live isolated lives and are in close contact with people we prefer the shot. Maybe your immune system is amazing, but you put others at risk who may not follow your routine. A client seeing you while you are hosting this virus (which you fight off) will get sick. Perhaps your system works for you, but I see too many people regularly to risk my health or to risk infecting a client with H1N1. Your doctor could be right that your immune system is great, but by not protecting yourself you are being reckless with your clients health. Would you have sex without a condom?

We can argue this all day, I have Health Canada,their testings and their stats to back me. You have here-say and media propraganda.

And Lastly, of course the Big pharma companies pay for advertising and under the Law any advertising for medication requires that the side effects be made public during the Ad.

Example: Lyrica
This ad is 1 minute long. At 22 seconds they begin listing the side effects for the remaining 38 seconds:

[Guest]

Scary!

Hi everyone,

Amazing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AgKBVaPKWo

Shocking! This next video shows the whole history of vaccines starting as far back as Christopher Columbus. The video gets really in depth about the history. It even show some horribly deformed infant babies caused by vaccines.
You will hear medical doctor after medical doctor bashing vaccines and you will see how the inventor of the polio vaccine states that the polio vaccine was the cause of polio outbreaks.
They show results of mass vaccinations that took place through history and it shows how, for example, if 30,000 people were vaccinated 27,000 died, back then. Scary stuff.
It's really eye opening. Unfortunately for us Canadians, this documentary is based only in the USA, but hey, the USA is close enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqx8NyPVrHg

Staying healthy.
Babe,
xoxo

[toban]

Why a post's authenticity needs to be first established!

Just a couple of comments on a recent post by Babe.

1. - I started to watch the first video but within a few seconds the premise of it's authenticity began to fail when the presenter stated that the supposed ?Real doctor? turns out to have first graduated with a B.Sc. in Ultrasound? then studied ?Allopathic Medicine?. So, what is Allopathic Medicine anyway?

From Wikipedia:
a) Allopathic medicine is an expression commonly used by homeopaths and proponents of other forms of alternative medicine to refer to mainstream medical use of pharmacologically active agents or physical interventions to treat or suppress symptoms or pathophysiologic processes of diseases or conditions.

b) Alternative medicine is any practice that is put forward as having the healing effects of medicine but is not based on evidence gathered using the scientific method, It consists of a wide range of health care practices, products and therapies, using alternative medical diagnoses and treatments which typically have not been included in the degree courses of established medical schools or used in conventional medicine. Examples of alternative medicine include homeopathy, naturopathy, chiropractic, and acupuncture.

On hearing that, as far as I am concerned, that doctor's presentation lost all credibility. She is but a fraud! I did not watch any other videos, one of which was an advertisement for tobacco, and not related to the issue at hand.

2. ? Re: Babe?s comment on slaughterhouses I spent 7 years working for what was then Canada?s largest meat packer and saw every department and operation within the walls of that huge packing-plant, yes, even in the slaughterhouse I oversaw the harvesting and preservation of certain organs/tissues for big pharma from which vital pharmaceuticals would be later produced and I even got to analyze what was found in the depths of the sewers below and I still love to eat balogna!

[Guest]

Food Inc. WOW!

Hi everyone,

Okay! Off topic (sort of) as animals are, also, vaccinated.

The slaughter house doors (of today) are open, now.
Have a peek!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f69TUDbPdLs

Bon appetit!
Babe,
xoxo

[Guest]

Earthlings!

Hi again everyone,

This is another great video that shows how the government controls "Scientifically Proven" methods of food production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uah8LBUbfc

Here is one that shows what we humans put animals through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7F1z1-yx9U

It's getting a little off topic but it all revolves around vaccinations in a small way.

Babe,
xoxo

[Guest]

H1 N1 update

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showth...866#post434866

[Guest]

January 7, 2014 H1N1 update

...I wonder if once you've had it (H1N1) are you immune to it ? Unless it has a different strain this time around.

Hi rider,

Look at what they are saying in the following report concerning resistance of the virus.

Babe,
xoxo

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H1N1 makes up more than 90% of flu cases in Quebec so far


Flu season is business as usual, says Public Health Director Horacio Arruda

CBC News

Posted: Jan 07, 2014 8:33 AM ET

Last Updated: Jan 08, 2014 11:33 AM ET



More than two million doses of the flu vaccine have been distributed in Quebec so far this year, though the health ministry does not yet know how many have actually been administered. Radio-Canada



This year's flu season is just like any other, says Quebec's Director of Public Health Horacio Arruda ? even if the majority of the 969 cases already reported are H1N1.

?We are not in a pandemic situation," Arruda said Tuesday afternoon.
INFOGRAPHIC: Overcrowding in Montreal hospitals


He said that since the 2009 outbreak of H1N1, people have had the chance to build up a resistance to the strain, meaning it's far less deadly than it was five years ago.

However, it is spreading quickly.

Forty cases of the H1N1 strain of influenza were reported in the Eastern Townships on Monday, and the number of cases of influenza province-wide was pegged at 969 on Tuesday afternoon.

Arruda said more than 90 per cent of reported cases of the flu are H1N1.

Flu season is expected to peak between late January and mid-February.
This year's flu vaccine contains the H1N1 strain, so if you've already been vaccinated in the 2013-2014 flu season, you do not require another vaccine.

Quebec Health Minister R?jean H?bert is encouraging people who haven't yet received their vaccine to get it as soon as possible, particularly people in the following groups:

• Children 6 to 23 months old.
• People with certain chronic illnesses such as asthma and emphysema.
• Pregnant women in their second or third trimester, and pregnant women with chronic illnesses at any stage of their pregnancy.
• People aged 60 and over.
• People who live or work with members of the above-mentioned groups.
• Healthcare workers.

H?bert said this year?s strain of H1N1 is not more severe or virulent, but it is a virus that everyone should take very seriously.

Quebec Public Health Director Horacio Arruda says H1N1 may be prevalent this year, but people are much better equipped to deal with it now than they were in 2009. (CBC)

?It is an important disease that can be fatal,? he told CBC Montreal Daybreak host Mike Finnerty Tuesday morning.

Approximately 300 people die annually from the flu in Quebec.
A recent outbreak of H1N1 in Alberta has killed 10 people so far, and at least 960 cases of infection have been reported. About 300 people have been hospitalized.

In Montreal, clinics will be held for children aged 0-5 at the CLSC des Faubourgs (Visitation) on Jan. 8 and the CLSC Saint-Louis-du-Parc on Jan. 17.
H?bert said there should be no wait time for those considered at higher risk. Any delays should be reported to their local health authority.

• Vaccination clinics in Montreal

This year?s vaccine covers H1N1 and H2N3, the dominant flu virus from 2011 and 2012.
Strains covered by the 2013-2014 flu vaccine:

• A/California/7/2009 (H1N1).
• A/Victoria/361/2011 (H3N2).
• B/Massachusetts/2/2012.

H?bert said anyone experiencing symptoms including shortness of breath, severe headaches and high fever should visit their family doctor or a medical clinic.
"If possible, try to avoid emergency rooms, where vulnerable people are at risk," he said.

[Shyla Wild]

b) Alternative medicine is any practice that is put forward as having the healing effects of medicine but is not based on evidence gathered using the scientific method, It consists of a wide range of health care practices, products and therapies, using alternative medical diagnoses and treatments which typically have not been included in the degree courses of established medical schools or used in conventional medicine. Examples of alternative medicine include homeopathy, naturopathy, chiropractic, and acupuncture.

Other examples included witchcraft, prayer, sorcery, paganism

On hearing that, as far as I am concerned, that doctor's presentation lost all credibility. She is but a fraud! I did not watch any other videos, one of which was an advertisement for tobacco, and not related to the issue at hand.

Toban, a long time ago I heard a story about an alternate medicine doctor Linda Hazzard, who like many today, believed that cleansing through fasting and the body was enough to cure the body of most illness. This is another example of those who do not know History, are doomed to make the same mistakes. Linda Hazzard died while fasting and attempting to use her own cure on herself.

Despite her lack of a medical degree, she was licensed to practice medicine in Washington. A loophole in a licensing law grandfathered in some practitioners of alternative medicine who didn’t have medical degrees, including Hazzard.
According to her book "The Science of Fasting", Burfield studied under Edward Hooker Dewey, M.D. one of the two pioneers of fasting (the other was Dr.Henry S. Tanner M.D. who famously fasted for 42 days in 1877).
She created a "sanitarium", Wilderness Heights, in Olalla, Washington, where inpatients fasted for days, weeks or months, on a diet of small amounts of tomato and asparagus juice and occasionally, a small teaspoon of orange juice. While some patients survived and publicly sang her praises, more than 40 patients died under her care. Hazzard claimed that they all died of undisclosed or hitherto undiagnosed, serious organic illnesses such as cancer or cirrhosis of the liver. Her opponents claimed that they all died of starvation.^[1] Local residents referred to the place as "Starvation Heights". She assured people that her method was a panacea for all manner of ills, because she was able to rid the body of toxins that caused imbalances in the body.^[2]
In 1912, she was convicted of manslaughter for the death of Claire Williamson, a wealthy British woman, who weighed less than 50 pounds at the time of her death. At the trial it was proved that Hazzard had forged Williamson's will and stolen most of her valuables. Williamson's sister, Dorothea, also took the treatment, and, it is alleged, only survived because a family friend showed up in time to remove her from the compound. She was too weak to leave on her own, weighing less than 60 pounds. She later testified against Hazzard at trial.
Hazzard was sentenced to 2 to 20 years in prison, which she served in the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla.^[3] She was released on parole on December 26, 1915 after serving two years,^[4] and the following year Governor Ernest Lister gave her a full pardon.^[5] She and her husband, Samuel Christman Hazzard, moved to New Zealand, where she practiced as a dietitian andosteopath until 1920.^[3]
In 1920, she returned to Olalla, Washington and opened a new sanitarium, known publicly as a "school of health" since her medical license had been revoked,^[3] and continued to supervise fasts until it burned to the ground in 1935; it was never rebuilt.
Linda Burfield Hazzard died in 1938 while attempting a fasting cure on herself.^[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Hazzard

Science, History and a little common sense are all that is needed to make logical choices.

[xoxJanexox]

The reason that many people now are loosing hope in the traditional medical establishment that it is simply following the Church orthodoxy.

[Guest]

Shots In The Dark: Silence on Vaccine - National Film Board of Canada

Hi Jane.

Religious orthodoxy? Hmmm.
Well, Jane, if that is similar to a "medical dogma", i'll agree with you.

To everyone else, including Jane:
I think what turns many people, who i know personally, away from allopathic drugs is how allopathic drugs don't 'cure' disease - they only treat the symptoms. Those allopathic drugs only cause more problems which also have symptoms. So what happens then?...well, the allopathic doctors prescribe OTHER allopathic drugs to treat the symptoms caused by the first prescription - and the doctors keep trying to figure out which drugs work with one another with people as guinea pigs or "out-patient lab rats".
If that's what you want to be, i can't stop you.

Meanwhile, the patient is not allowed to eat many healthy foods because those foods will undermine the efficacy of the medications.
http://www.gdatf.org/about/about-gra...-interactions/
So, that leaves many people with unhealthy diets PLUS they are full of unnecessary drugs which damage the body. It's really a nasty circle.

So people like me seek out natural methods, instead.
What's next?... someone will mention starvation diets, electroshock therapy, for example, of course none of which are what this thread is about - that's really clutching at straws.

Me, for example, i go to the doctor hardly, only when i have a pain. I find out what they THINK the problem is (unless they clearly know what it is) then, i go home and i google and really research for the best natural cures i can find, and it usually never fails me.
I don't just select the first thing i see, and do THAT, of course. That would be pretty foolish and trusting of the vast internet and all the REAL quacks that are on it.
I RESEARCH and then i select a suitable protocol.

I have guided myself, and several people away from health problems and improved their health with some very basic, common sense methods that the health industry tries to discourage.
And i am helped by other people who know more than me.
Anyone can call me a quack and THAT is fine with me - but i am certainly a quack who does not get sick, and if i ever do feel something coming on, i increase the protocol and i get well very quickly.

Anyway, Jane's ONE sentence says a lot and makes much sense.

I hope people have enough sense, before posting, to watch the videos i post because they are important to my beliefs.
I will not debate, argue or even discuss such topics with uninformed people who can only quote from those deceitful sources.
In other words, i have no time for mindless debates.

The old saying goes, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
And that's how i feel about anyone entering this thread who only to try to make me appear misguided or misinformed.

Anyway, here's the N.F.B. of Canada's documentary. Enjoy it, everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnxAsrAK2hw

Bickerin' ain't ma thang.
Babe,
xoxo

[Shyla Wild]

Bickerin' ain't ma thang.
Babe,
xoxo

We are not "bickerin'", we are laughing....

Alternative Medicine will never be accepted as science. All scientific methods, must have 100% reproducible results. Alternative Medicine does not, and can have as many if not more side effects than anything produced by science and medicine.

Health Canada does not work for big Pharma, nor does it work for doctors....it works by protecting and informing the people.

[xoxJanexox]

Health Canada does not work for big Pharma, nor does it work for doctors....it works by protecting and informing the people.

Please search the word "Corrupt to the Core".