Welcome to the Sex Slave Market!

[TSFantasia]

To those who say be quiet this is a T-Girl escort/client board only for those who buy and sell.

Yes this may be a sex slave market but there are only a few slaves up on the auction block and can be made to do or say anything
for a price. And only a few that are sex slave owners and traders that quickly object to any T-Girl sex slave speaking about being
a real person with real thoughts and feelings of their own. She should be beaten and flogged because this is not what the buyers (clients) want ! But in reality you are just a handful of the people here! Take a look at the bottom of the main forum page to the online members count versus the number actually viewing. Usually 300ish members logged on with 5000ish viewing. And like any forum there are only a handful who actually are participating by posting or commenting on posts.

So you few owner/traders want to be the only voices heard by the 1000s of onlookers, the trans-attracted men, the T-Girl admirers and lovers. "Nothing wrong here folks just a bunch of feminized dudes and willing sex slaves being bought and sold for our pleasure!"
What's that one of the slaves is talking to the onlookers about being a "person", having rights , thoughts and feelings? Talking of freedom and life outside of being a sex slave? Don't worry just some poor deluded soul that will be beaten into submission and silence.

Dramatic illustration? Yes and N o. Yes girls willing enter this sex slave market and market themselves to willing buyers. But if they can then not escape this life because of having no other training or skills, because they can not be viewed as "real" women but only as "pretend, fake" ones that cannot be taken seriously or considered as anything other than a sexual fetish then they are slaves, who cannot escape the market!

So I'm here representing and continually reminding the 1000s of onlookers that trans women are much more than escorts, porn objects, and sex fetishes. If that offends the owners/traders/buyers so be it as you are only a few here anyways.

[Rockheart]

No one here is a sex slave that I know of.
Some have sex in exchange for money, which is a business transaction.
If some are slaves to money or drugs, that is not sex slavery.
Nor are they in servitude to their customers.

No one is a slave to their client,
they have a paid relationship agreed by both parties.
Sex slavery means they are having non consensual sex with a master.

The thousands of unwashed masses that are not logged in are usually referred to as "lurkers".

[TSFantasia]

No one here is a sex slave that I know of.
Some have sex in exchange for money, which is a business transaction.
If some are slaves to money or drugs, that is not sex slavery.
Nor are they in servitude to their customers.

No one is a slave to their client,
they have a paid relationship agreed by both parties.
Sex slavery means they are having non consensual sex with a master.

The thousands of unwashed masses that are not logged in are usually referred to as "lurkers".

It's called an analogy and a dramatic illustration Crag. Lol. And lurkers or onlookers all the same they are reading what people post and have to say. And a lot talk to me on other sites

[Rockheart]

It's called an analogy and a dramatic illustration Crag. Lol. And lurkers or onlookers all the same they are reading what people post and have to say. And a lot talk to me on other sites

Ok,
but they are still lurkers.....
onlookers can be identified.

[toban]

Attention! Attention! Action Stations! Disaster ahead!

My goodness, how this forum has changed of late!

Originally it was a more or less happy place where guys were encouraged to discuss and review the girls with great camaraderie. There were few if any complaints by the guys about how things worked here. Now we see girls coming on here, some trying to change a guy?s behaviour and perhaps even change our way of thinking!

If a girl who is in the process of transformation from male to female finds our attitudes and actions toward T-girls like herself objectionable, if she is so unhappy with guys here then why the heck is she here in the first place? Why does Fantasia insist on moving into this community despite the fact that she does not seem to appreciate the way the guys in this community react to her kind? Is she not heading in the wrong direction?

As I see things, if she does not approve of this community or it's members actions, yet she still insists on joining with us, should she not then work at changing herself to fit into the community rather than trying to change the whole community to fit her ideals? Lately, the forum appears to be evolving into an arena concerned more with the tribulations of transsexuals, unfortunately leaving the guys, those who this forum was originally intended to serve, on the sidelines. How did this ever come about?

Crag, perhaps this is the time where you should step in to save your forum from eventual destruction at the hands of those who seem bent on changing this whole community. At the very least, perhaps you could devote a separate section entirely to transgenders and move this thread and others similar into that section so they do not pollute the forum for the guys it was originally designed to accommodate!

[TSFantasia]

My goodness, how this forum has changed of late!

Originally it was a more or less happy place where guys were encouraged to discuss and review the girls with great camaraderie. There were few if any complaints by the guys about how things worked here. Now we see girls coming on here, some trying to change a guy’s behaviour and perhaps even change our way of thinking!

If a girl who is in the process of transformation from male to female finds our attitudes and actions toward T-girls like herself objectionable, if she is so unhappy with guys here then why the heck is she here in the first place? Why does Fantasia insist on moving into this community despite the fact that she does not seem to appreciate the way the guys in this community react to her kind? Is she not heading in the wrong direction?

As I see things, if she does not approve of this community or it's members actions, yet she still insists on joining with us, should she not then work at changing herself to fit into the community rather than trying to change the whole community to fit her ideals? Lately, the forum appears to be evolving into an arena concerned more with the tribulations of transsexuals, unfortunately leaving the guys, those who this forum was originally intended to serve, on the sidelines. How did this ever come about?

Crag, perhaps this is the time where you should step in to save your forum from eventual destruction at the hands of those who seem bent on changing this whole community. At the very least, perhaps you could devote a separate section entirely to transgenders and move this thread and others similar into that section so they do not pollute the forum for the guys it was originally designed to accommodate!

Oh my goodness now who's being dramatic. Post more threads yourself on the topics you want. Have some original thoughts and ideas. I've started a variety of posts from sexual exploits, to favourite oral positions, etc. etc. I've contributed pics to threads like Superhotties with glasses, Butts, butts butts, Boobs, etc and original pics not pics stolen from other t-girl sites. With barely an ugggh or a thank you from all you concerned citizens.

You do not represent the whole community and neither do I! Guys who don't like me don't have to read my posts or look at my pics. But controversy and debate attracts readers. My text and email requests for appts has not slowed down. Play up the girls you like and trash me on their posts if you like its a free world and forum.

Asking for censuring of me you are doing exactly what I just said in this post trying to beat an opposing view into silence and submission. There are always going to to be bottom boys inspite of my opinions of them inspite of the sign with the skull and crossbones on my door and escort and personal ads "Bottom Boys Keep Out!"
More business for the Top only providers. So don't think I'm hurting anyone else's business

I can count on one hand the T-girls who actually post or comment on this forum, other than posting their travel dates and site updates. So out number us with your posts don't like a post let it die.
I do agree with the idea of posts exclusive to men to say whatever they like without interference from us. Whether that can be in the permissions
settings. Or just in a men/hobbyists* POST AREA ONLY*

[bb420]

well this is surprising, i thought everyone on the internet agreed with each other.

[Alexis]

I have lots of sex slaves..

They're fun..

I love being worshiped from head to head to toe..

Boys and girls alike can all worship me.. from their knees..

Oddly I have no trans slaves.. just male and female..

the last one that was here did a fantastic job of worshiping my ass.. but then when I came he struggled and wouldn't let me cum in his mouth..

I came all over his face instead..

So next time.. he gets bound better.. and I'm going to buy one of these for those that are reluctant to keep their mouth open..

[Locomotion]

The More The Merrier...

I disagree, personally I feel that the forum has only improved because of all the girl members (no pun intended) that are on the forum now.

I've met and chatted with some truly awesome girls here which would not have happened otherwise if not for this forum.

Also, it's entertaining to read other's perspectives, everyone has a point of view. Even the trolls.

Variety is the spice of life...

My goodness, how this forum has changed of late!

Originally it was a more or less happy place where guys were encouraged to discuss and review the girls with great camaraderie. There were few if any complaints by the guys about how things worked here. Now we see girls coming on here, some trying to change a guy?s behaviour and perhaps even change our way of thinking!

If a girl who is in the process of transformation from male to female finds our attitudes and actions toward T-girls like herself objectionable, if she is so unhappy with guys here then why the heck is she here in the first place? Why does Fantasia insist on moving into this community despite the fact that she does not seem to appreciate the way the guys in this community react to her kind? Is she not heading in the wrong direction?

As I see things, if she does not approve of this community or it's members actions, yet she still insists on joining with us, should she not then work at changing herself to fit into the community rather than trying to change the whole community to fit her ideals? Lately, the forum appears to be evolving into an arena concerned more with the tribulations of transsexuals, unfortunately leaving the guys, those who this forum was originally intended to serve, on the sidelines. How did this ever come about?

Crag, perhaps this is the time where you should step in to save your forum from eventual destruction at the hands of those who seem bent on changing this whole community. At the very least, perhaps you could devote a separate section entirely to transgenders and move this thread and others similar into that section so they do not pollute the forum for the guys it was originally designed to accommodate!

[TSFantasia]

Oh No!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XIuhM00Sgw

[Guest]

Oh yes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81Q5E84cHnU




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01GuYv18Ib4




.

[Guest]

.

[xoxJanexox]

To those who say be quiet this is a T-Girl escort/client board only for those who buy and sell.

Yes this may be a sex slave market but there are only a few slaves up on the auction block and can be made to do or say anything
for a price. And only a few that are sex slave owners and traders that quickly object to any T-Girl sex slave speaking about being
a real person with real thoughts and feelings of their own. She should be beaten and flogged because this is not what the buyers (clients) want ! But in reality you are just a handful of the people here! Take a look at the bottom of the main forum page to the online members count versus the number actually viewing. Usually 300ish members logged on with 5000ish viewing. And like any forum there are only a handful who actually are participating by posting or commenting on posts.

So you few owner/traders want to be the only voices heard by the 1000s of onlookers, the trans-attracted men, the T-Girl admirers and lovers. "Nothing wrong here folks just a bunch of feminized dudes and willing sex slaves being bought and sold for our pleasure!"
What's that one of the slaves is talking to the onlookers about being a "person", having rights , thoughts and feelings? Talking of freedom and life outside of being a sex slave? Don't worry just some poor deluded soul that will be beaten into submission and silence.

Dramatic illustration? Yes and N o. Yes girls willing enter this sex slave market and market themselves to willing buyers. But if they can then not escape this life because of having no other training or skills, because they can not be viewed as "real" women but only as "pretend, fake" ones that cannot be taken seriously or considered as anything other than a sexual fetish then they are slaves, who cannot escape the market!

So I'm here representing and continually reminding the 1000s of onlookers that trans women are much more than escorts, porn objects, and sex fetishes. If that offends the owners/traders/buyers so be it as you are only a few here anyways.

We are a bunch of sex slaves and sex slaves owners and you are Martin Luther King of this forum?
You scream of being silenced and if someone comes across you with disagreement you start calling them all the "fantasia" names!
You are the voice of trans women but on dating sites you are in the "stealth" mode?! Let's praise our freedom leader TSFantasia.

If anything, I would really wish that you continue, because you will, for sure, be the author of your misfortune in this forum!

[toban]

I disagree, personally I feel that the forum has only improved because of all the girl members (no pun intended) that are on the forum now.

I've met and chatted with some truly awesome girls here which would not have happened otherwise if not for this forum.

Also, it's entertaining to read other's perspectives, everyone has a point of view. Even the trolls.

Variety is the spice of life...

Locomotion, I was not suggesting at all that the presence of girls on the forum was essentially unwelcome, because I fully agree with your statement that we have many awesome girls here and I will even add that over the years we've had many exemplary girls join us here. Absolutely!

I do need to explain though that my bottom line in this recent post was that I feel that several recent threads in which providers needs seemed to be paramount in both posts and discussions. Such threads might have been better placed in a section designated strictly for such. This kind of material, unrelated directly to “escorts” need not clutter up the general forum which was, and should still be, about guys concerns and discussions around the escorts they favour. After all this was/is? an Escort Review board not a Provider Review board

What I was really getting at was that within the many recent threads and related posts there was discussion and numerous posts related basically to providers suggesting that we fanciers of t-girls and their cocks should be more mindful of the provider’s needs rather than just fulfilling our own desires of receiving.

This is something I can not agree with! A provider is generally hired to simply perform a specific task! The provision of any service for the purchaser, whether it be shovelling snow or fucking his ass, is the only concern – whether a provider receives pleasure during performance of this service is of no significance to the purchaser. Any enjoyment occuring in any form of employment can not be looked upon as the responsibility or duty of the purchaser or as a right of the provider but just an unexpected bonus!

What I also found kind of strange in these recent threads was the disparaging way in which this provider considers the many guys who would ordinarily be receivers and those who would service them as well, (together they’re probably the most significant group by number within this forum). Oddly, she states that she considers them pretty much “gay” but then, she says that professionally she tops but in her personal life she is searching for and prefers to be with tops herself.

Is there not some inconsistency here - she looks down with disdain upon the many who prefer to receive but she can do so herself without question.

P.S. Just letting off steam - I am not so na?ve as to expect Crag to take any action!

[TSFantasia]

Locomotion, I was not suggesting at all that the presence of girls on the forum was essentially unwelcome, because I fully agree with your statement that we have many awesome girls here and I will even add that over the years we've had many exemplary girls join us here. Absolutely!

I do need to explain though that my bottom line in this recent post was that I feel that several recent threads in which providers needs seemed to be paramount in both posts and discussions. Such threads might have been better placed in a section designated strictly for such. This kind of material, unrelated directly to “escorts” need not clutter up the general forum which was, and should still be, about guys concerns and discussions around the escorts they favour. After all this was/is? an Escort Review board not a Provider Review board

What I was really getting at was that within the many recent threads and related posts there was discussion and numerous posts related basically to providers suggesting that we fanciers of t-girls and their cocks should be more mindful of the provider’s needs rather than just fulfilling our own desires of receiving.

This is something I can not agree with! A provider is generally hired to simply perform a specific task! The provision of any service for the purchaser, whether it be shovelling snow or fucking his ass, is the only concern – whether a provider receives pleasure during performance of this service is of no significance to the purchaser. Any enjoyment occuring in any form of employment can not be looked upon as the responsibility or duty of the purchaser or as a right of the provider but just an unexpected bonus!

What I also found kind of strange in these recent threads was the disparaging way in which this provider considers the many guys who would ordinarily be receivers and those who would service them as well, (together they’re probably the most significant group by number within this forum). Oddly, she states that she considers them pretty much “gay” but then, she says that professionally she tops but in her personal life she is searching for and prefers to be with tops herself.

Is there not some inconsistency here - she looks down with disdain upon the many who prefer to receive but she can do so herself without question.

P.S. Just letting off steam - I am not so na?ve as to expect Crag to take any action!

Why don't you get it Toban?! The Escort review section is on another link further down the forum page! I don't stick my nose in there to comment on other peoples reviews .This is T-Girl Chat where hobbyists, escorts, or just t-girl enthusiasts or just T-girls can express their views. You simply refuse to let trans women exist outside of the confines of T-girl escorts and porn.

I have expressed my personal view on a number of topics as have other SP, hobbyists, and admirers. Professionally I have topped and now I don't mostly over the hygiene issue! I almost always turned down guys ,who made it clear that was the only thing they were interested in from the session ,as generally they turn me off as they don't do anything to remotely arouse me like a guy who is a top or at least versatile.

And yes my personal opinion and view is that guys ,who ONLY want that even with the most beautiful T-Girl SPs are closet gays in denial and they feel if they have someone who looks like a women that their "straight, hetero, macho" image remains intact. I am also of the opinion that these same guys are on a constant search for other "bi" men on CL and other hookup sites for cocks to choke on and cram in their ass in between their T-Girl paid encounters. And I don't really care that closet gay men like T-Girls. Good for them and good for the girls, who get their money. I prefer my approach of doing what I enjoy doing with guys who enjoy it also and make money doing it.