Montreal Police Offers Homeless Man BDSM Services :)

[TSFantasia]

So on the news today the report and outrage is over a Montreal police officer, who responded to a complaint
of a homeless man becoming aggressive in his pan-handling. During the confrontation the police officer is
videoed threatening the homeless man that he would/should chain him to a pole for an hour.

Of course this video has gone viral and the Police dept. has responded appropriately to this politically incorrect
and inappropriate threat. Your thoughts do people over-react to these most likely "tongue in cheek" comments
that police make during the course of dealing with a wide variety of people? If you were either the homeless man or
the bystander videoing this would you really be taking this threat seriously? Or would you take it as an "idle threat" not
to be taken seriously, that the officer is merely making a point?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JvUPePJWjo

[merelypink]

cop on a power trip!!

[Shyla Wild]

hahahaha...this shit happens all the time in Montreal... cops are fucking idiots here and each one has a chip on his shoulder.


Remember this??

[Gypsy1955]

Yes, take threat seriously!

Let's not forget the police of Regina taking vulnerable persons out to the country in Saskatchewan winter and dropping them off. Some never made it back and died of exposure. When the frozen body was found it came to light as a common practise. So...yes, take all threats seriously.

[Crystalsopen]

Wow The title really gave me wrong idea.

Let's not forget the police of Regina taking vulnerable persons out to the country in Saskatchewan winter and dropping them off. Some never made it back and died of exposure. When the frozen body was found it came to light as a common practise. So...yes, take all threats seriously.

I was thinking what a cool and generous cop when I read the title, now I'm like what a stereotypical cop. This cop sounds like a bully, but I know there are good ones out there too.

[Shyla Wild]

The funny part of the Video I posted, the protestors are chanting "Lib?rer les Chevaux" means "Free the Horses"

hahaha...like what's wrong with you and what exactly are you protesting as I thought this protect was about school fees.

Got to love Montreal. Nothing makes sense...might as well pepper spray them.

[rider014]

Wrong city

Let's not forget the police of Regina taking vulnerable persons out to the country in Saskatchewan winter and dropping them off. Some never made it back and died of exposure. When the frozen body was found it came to light as a common practise. So...yes, take all threats seriously.

Actually it was Saskatoon. Doesn't really matter though, could happen in Regina I guess. Unless it's caught on video such as this, all anybody ever sees is the one sided version of the victim's family on the national news which usually ends up with a task force or an enquiry started, then we hear the outcome of such 3 years later. "Ya I remember something about that". I don't condone the police that do these things but realize, put yourself in their shoes, day after day of putting up with some of the shit they do. I've witnessed a lot of so called professionals be very unprofessional at times, and I'd hate to see how far these individuals would take things if they were given a badge and a gun

[Gypsy1955]

Whatever city,

Actually it was Saskatoon. Doesn't really matter though, could happen in Regina I guess. Unless it's caught on video such as this, all anybody ever sees is the one sided version of the victim's family on the national news which usually ends up with a task force or an enquiry started, then we hear the outcome of such 3 years later. "Ya I remember something about that". I don't condone the police that do these things but realize, put yourself in their shoes, day after day of putting up with some of the shit they do. I've witnessed a lot of so called professionals be very unprofessional at times, and I'd hate to see how far these individuals would take things if they were given a badge and a gun

You're right, city doesn't matter. We all know and heard of police corruption and abuse of power/authority. We see it on the news almost daily. I served 25 years in the Canadian Forces and 3 years as a Correctional Officer, I'd say I've been in their shoes somewhat. Because you're tired of or can't handle the bs anymore doesn't give you a licence to abuse. Just hand in the badge and move on. There is other less stressful careers out there. It only takes one bad guy to ruin the reputation of many.

[Shyla Wild]

I don't condone the police that do these things but realize, put yourself in their shoes, day after day of putting up with some of the shit they do. I've witnessed a lot of so called professionals be very unprofessional at times, and I'd hate to see how far these individuals would take things if they were given a badge and a gun

Unfortunately Rider, this is not the case. Certain professional must always be professional. Convictions and judgment can be effected if the officer made mistakes or has a reputation. Having a bad day at work, gives you as much right to excessive violence as beating your wife. It's a tough job no doubt, but that does not give you the right to do some of the things that we witness police doing. Stress comes with all jobs. Cops can argue self defence, but self defence states that you must equal or lesser force to defend yourself. Pepper on peaceful protestors is a little excessive.

Police are there to serve and protect, us not them. Police enforce the Law, they are not above, they do not make the laws and they are not the judge in any major crime.

[toban]

Let's not be so quick to condemn!

I suggest that trying to make a valid comment based only upon that F/E translation and a single photo is impossible. I would need to know the whole story, did these two have prior encounters, I?d need to hear the whole conversation to discover the nuances present in the way cop spoke to him as well as his facial expression as he spoke. We don?t know that it wasn?t made in a lighthearted way in a futile attempt to get the guy to move on without having to take any punitive action against him. I know many cops personally who actually do go the extra mile to help people who are down and out, who try their darnedest to avoid charging them! Case in point: The video (last week?) of two cops in Hamilton trying to place a screaming girl, who was being a public nuisance, in custody.

Probably no one who has children, probably boys, can say they?ve never made such empty threats either, knowing full well they would never ever consider carrying them out e.g. little Johnny who has sneaked down the staircase to watch that forbidden TV show when supposed to be in bed hears, ?You get back to bed you bad boy before I come up there and tan your backside so you won?t be able to sit on it for a week!?

People with problems can often be really hard to deal with by the poor cop who is charged with keeping the street free of such distractions. It is not a fun job!

[Shyla Wild]

I suggest that trying to make a valid comment based only upon that F/E translation and a single photo is impossible. I would need to know the whole story, did these two have prior encounters, I?d need to hear the whole conversation to discover the nuances present in the way cop spoke to him as well as his facial expression as he spoke. We don?t know that it wasn?t made in a lighthearted way in a futile attempt to get the guy to move on without having to take any punitive action against him. I know many cops personally who actually do go the extra mile to help people who are down and out, who try their darnedest to avoid charging them! Case in point: The video (last week?) of two cops in Hamilton trying to place a screaming girl, who was being a public nuisance, in custody.

Probably no one who has children, probably boys, can say they?ve never made such empty threats either, knowing full well they would never ever consider carrying them out e.g. little Johnny who has sneaked down the staircase to watch that forbidden TV show when supposed to be in bed hears, ?You get back to bed you bad boy before I come up there and tan your backside so you won?t be able to sit on it for a week!?

People with problems can often be really hard to deal with by the poor cop who is charged with keeping the street free of such distractions. It is not a fun job!

http://globalnews.ca/news/394608/con...ested-reports/

The Montreal Cop was charged...

[TSFantasia]

I suggest that trying to make a valid comment based only upon that F/E translation and a single photo is impossible. I would need to know the whole story, did these two have prior encounters, I’d need to hear the whole conversation to discover the nuances present in the way cop spoke to him as well as his facial expression as he spoke. We don’t know that it wasn’t made in a lighthearted way in a futile attempt to get the guy to move on without having to take any punitive action against him. I know many cops personally who actually do go the extra mile to help people who are down and out, who try their darnedest to avoid charging them! Case in point: The video (last week?) of two cops in Hamilton trying to place a screaming girl, who was being a public nuisance, in custody.

Probably no one who has children, probably boys, can say they’ve never made such empty threats either, knowing full well they would never ever consider carrying them out e.g. little Johnny who has sneaked down the staircase to watch that forbidden TV show when supposed to be in bed hears, “You get back to bed you bad boy before I come up there and tan your backside so you won’t be able to sit on it for a week!”

People with problems can often be really hard to deal with by the poor cop who is charged with keeping the street free of such distractions. It is not a fun job!

I agree with Toban (YAH ) I think we need to hear all sides of the story and not go by a 1 min cellphone vid clip. Thankfully we don't all have people following us around all day at our job or day in the life of.... and then upload our worst and most embarrassing moments to Youtube without our permission. Oh I forgot everyone does that now..lol!

I think there is a place to draw the line as in police brutality, unnecessary use of force (pepper spray, baton bashing , body slamming, etc) and giving law enforcement some leeway in doing their job. I would take this example as yes a P.I. threat, but more along the lines of , "Don't make me come back here and have to arrest and charge you! You understand? "

Take me away officer

[rider014]

Rose colored glasses

Unfortunately Rider, this is not the case. Certain professional must always be professional. Convictions and judgment can be effected if the officer made mistakes or has a reputation. Having a bad day at work, gives you as much right to excessive violence as beating your wife. It's a tough job no doubt, but that does not give you the right to do some of the things that we witness police doing. Stress comes with all jobs. Cops can argue self defence, but self defence states that you must equal or lesser force to defend yourself. Pepper on peaceful protestors is a little excessive.

Police are there to serve and protect, us not them. Police enforce the Law, they are not above, they do not make the laws and they are not the judge in any major crime.

Yes, right you are about this case as it was caught on video, maybe a good thing about today's technology as incidences such as this can't be easily swept under the rug like in the past.
That's sure a cut n dry outlook you have on "certain" professionals, would be nice if it was, unfortunately it's not. Not even debatable, sorry

[Gypsy1955]

I agree with Toban (YAH ) I think we need to hear all sides of the story and not go by a 1 min cellphone vid clip. Thankfully we don't all have people following us around all day at our job or day in the life of.... and then upload our worst and most embarrassing moments to Youtube without our permission. Oh I forgot everyone does that now..lol!

I think there is a place to draw the line as in police brutality, unnecessary use of force (pepper spray, baton bashing , body slamming, etc) and giving law enforcement some leeway in doing their job. I would take this example as yes a P.I. threat, but more along the lines of , "Don't make me come back here and have to arrest and charge you! You understand? "

Take me away officer

Normally I find I agree with you Fantasia but not this time. I'm sure the shivering homeless guy was interested in the cops humorous face or condescending tone of voice to see if he's kidding or not. Maybe the homeless guy has mental issues? When out in public it's allowed by law to take photos or videos of another person and post it whether they like it or not. Otherwise the cop would have confiscated the phone and could have arrested him. But don't put an untruth on it or then you could be in trouble. If the homeless guy said to the cop "leave me alone or I'll tie you to the post", well...guess where he's gonna end up...SLAMMER! But probably not before the cop body slams him and calls for backup. Law enforcement officers jobs are to serve and protect...who protects us from the bad ones?

[Guest]

They can be idiots.

Hi all,

I was in my area once and saw the same thing happening to some young guy who was in the cold and was being harrassed by the cops, they took his jacket away from him, though, and sent him on his way. It was a cold night in winter. I was pretty shocked.

Concering, the pepper spray/mace video, no matter what was said, the cop has no right to just pepper spray people in the face unless they pose a visible threat to the officer, or do they? Odd that it's a female cop, probably scared to death - needs more training. Oh, i forgot, THIS IS training.
If you say that video is hard to say what happened, then check this one out.

Seems like a guy is just walking a dog, then he's held down by two cops.
Then at 01:45, a really unfair female cop enters the scene and knees the guy in the knees WHOLE he's already down and seems to be cuffed.
I was told the police farce sends the rookie cops to areas like this to cut their teeth. Since its a rough neighborhood, excessive force is okay.
You don't see scenes like this happenng in places like Westmount, Quebec.

Later, when the victim is in the car, we can hear him screaming from inside a car. If you ask me, he's being tazed - i can't be sure though.

Move the time counter to 1:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUn_9Ewx-bo

The good thing is, if you're an anglophone, the cops WILL speak English to you as they kick you.

Babe,
xoxo