Why Do I Have To Defend Every Review Submitted for Me ???!!!

[nice_eyes]

Calling "shill" is pretty common on escort review sites, so I'm not sure why the OP is so shocked, or outraged by this. I'm also on TERB, and any review posted by someone with no posting history would be laughed off of the forum.

The dynamics are a little different here, but as a prospective client I'm alway suspicious of those types of reviews. At the very least I know that the escort has solicited the review, and even if the guy is sincere, his review is most likely biased in favour of the provider. Maybe he's got a bit of a puppy dog crush on the SP, or he's hoping for special treatment the next time he sees her. That's assuming that it's actually a legit client posting the review. I also get suspicious that it may be the provider doing it, or getting friends to log in to do it.

I'm just giving you the client's perspective. Getting angry about it just make me more suspicious. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.... ;-)

I'm sure that if a really negative review got posted about her and the user only had a one post history, she'd be calling it fake, and pointing out how the forum member had never posted before, and only joined to make that post.

[TSFantasia]

Ridiculous logic!

The point is that most guys who see me have originally contacted me via backpage and a few from SMC or directly through my website. Most do not frequent this forum nor does it enter their minds that a follow up review is necessary or needed. My making them aware of this forum is just that making them aware! I see from what others write that girls are judged by their reviews so giving my regular clients and repeats an opportunity to submit a review gives me visibility should I decide to tour or for those coming from other cities on business who do use this forum for input and advice.

If someone immediately attacks these reviews as fakes then of course I am going to defend them. These guys came in to submit a review PERIOD! They are not here to take part in your OLD BOYS club, etc. If they choose to hang around and do so that is ENTIRELY up to them. This type of reasoning and logic for attacking reviews "Oh the guy just signed up to put in a positive review on a SP then left..must be fake!" Is ridiculous how do you know they left?! Guys browse this forum all the time without signing in or sign in and browse around with out commenting on anything again. SO WHAT..so what. soo what! You guys are making up rules for guys to submit reviews like they must hang around and keep posting, etc. This is RIDICULOUS its like a store asking you to take a few minutes to fill out a customer comments or service review survey then insisting you stay all week so other customers can talk to you to see that you are real.

Give your heads a shake already! Just because some of you live here 24/7 and have made yourselves into T-Girl escort connoisseurs doesn't mean every guy has to in order to submit a review.

[TSFantasia]

Calling "shill" is pretty common on escort review sites, so I'm not sure why the OP is so shocked, or outraged by this. I'm also on TERB, and any review posted by someone with no posting history would be laughed off of the forum.

The dynamics are a little different here, but as a prospective client I'm alway suspicious of those types of reviews. At the very least I know that the escort has solicited the review, and even if the guy is sincere, his review is most likely biased in favour of the provider. Maybe he's got a bit of a puppy dog crush on the SP, or he's hoping for special treatment the next time he sees her. That's assuming that it's actually a legit client posting the review. I also get suspicious that it may be the provider doing it, or getting friends to log in to do it.

I'm just giving you the client's perspective. Getting angry about it just make me more suspicious. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.... ;-)

I'm sure that if a really negative review got posted about her and the user only had a one post history, she'd be calling it fake, and pointing out how the forum member had never posted before, and only joined to make that post.

Where are you from? Where is your picture? I have no idea who you are? Your not real your just some fake behind a keyboard for all I know!
Most girls get 1 review every 100 clients why? Because most are first-timers/one-timers. Second most guys DO NOT use forums like this they use Backpage and SMC, etc to find an escort, She looks pretty & sexy I want to fuck her Ring Ring. So when a regular client submits a review ,whether asked or not you nose-pickers, pants around your ankles guys want to jump on him because he doesn't live on internet porn and forums like you do,. The only JOKE is you guys who do not have a life. My clients obviously do have a life, careers, families etc.

[Shyla Wild]

Where are you from? Where is your picture? I have no idea who you are? Your not real your just some fake behind a keyboard for all I know!
Most girls get 1 review every 100 clients why? Because most are first-timers/one-timers. Second most guys DO NOT use forums like this they use Backpage and SMC, etc to find an escort, She looks pretty & sexy I want to fuck her Ring Ring. So when a regular client submits a review ,whether asked or not you nose-pickers, pants around your ankles guys want to jump on him because he doesn't live on internet porn and forums like you do,. The only JOKE is you guys who do not have a life. My clients obviously do have a life, careers, families etc.

Why are you attacking everyone? No one is attacking you in this thread. We are explaining why this is happening and you are freaking and insulting people. Here is a little news flash. This is the way it is. Reviewers with one post have no creditability. If members do not say it to your face as freuden did, then the readers are sitting behind the computer laughing at 1 post reviews and not taking it seriously.

Your choice how you want to handle this, but freaking out about it and insulting others here is pointless and counter productive.

[TSFantasia]

Why are you attacking everyone? No one is attacking you in this thread. We are explaining why this is happening and you are freaking and insulting people. Here is a little news flash. This is the way it is. Reviewers with one post have no creditability. If members do not say it to your face as freuden did, then the readers are sitting behind the computer laughing at 1 post reviews and not taking it seriously.

Your choice how you want to handle this, but freaking out about it and insulting others here is pointless and counter productive.

Your heads are really like brick walls aren't they? Read my previous post comments about this type of logic.

And if nice eyes with FOUR posts in 2 1/2 years wants to talk about CREDIBILITY then he needs to do a couple more 100 posts before I will be taking his credibility seriously. If I want to vent I will vent and why are you jumping to every critics defense anyways Shyla? I don't do this in your posts when you are adamantly expressing yourself, especially the sticking my nose into a discussion between you and someone else so please don't in mine.

[nice_eyes]

I haven't been here since August of last year. Prior to that, I was away from the site for at least a year. So, I'm not giving you the old boy's club perspective. I'd say that the majority of your prospective clients are probably people just like me, who otherwise lurk and don't post very often, but will come here to check out reviews when they are in the mood to see someone new.

So if I read a positive review, but check out the user and see something like, "Join date: February, 2014. Posts: 1," I'm not going to give it as much credibility as if it was from someone more established. That review is one of two things; a solicited review (which is probably heavily biased towards the escort since what repeat client would want to insult someone he plans to see again), or it's a shill. So, either way, it's only worth so much.

If I were you, I'd concentrate more on putting your best foot forward in your forum posts. The fact that a client can look through your posts and see what kind of personality you have is way better advertising than one off reviews. To me, it's a total turn off when the girls on here are catty and bitchy with one another. Sure, a good cat fight can be amusing to watch, but that doesn't mean that I'd want to book the lady.

The point is that most guys who see me have originally contacted me via backpage and a few from SMC or directly through my website. Most do not frequent this forum nor does it enter their minds that a follow up review is necessary or needed. My making them aware of this forum is just that making them aware! I see from what others write that girls are judged by their reviews so giving my regular clients and repeats an opportunity to submit a review gives me visibility should I decide to tour or for those coming from other cities on business who do use this forum for input and advice.

If someone immediately attacks these reviews as fakes then of course I am going to defend them. These guys came in to submit a review PERIOD! They are not here to take part in your OLD BOYS club, etc. If they choose to hang around and do so that is ENTIRELY up to them. This type of reasoning and logic for attacking reviews "Oh the guy just signed up to put in a positive review on a SP then left..must be fake!" Is ridiculous how do you know they left?! Guys browse this forum all the time without signing in or sign in and browse around with out commenting on anything again. SO WHAT..so what. soo what! You guys are making up rules for guys to submit reviews like they must hang around and keep posting, etc. This is RIDICULOUS its like a store asking you to take a few minutes to fill out a customer comments or service review survey then insisting you stay all week so other customers can talk to you to see that you are real.

Give your heads a shake already! Just because some of you live here 24/7 and have made yourselves into T-Girl escort connoisseurs doesn't mean every guy has to in order to submit a review.

[TSFantasia]

I haven't been here since August of last year. Prior to that, I was away from the site for at least a year. So, I'm not giving you the old boy's club perspective. I'd say that the majority of your prospective clients are probably people just like me, who otherwise lurk and don't post very often, but will come here to check out reviews when they are in the mood to see someone new.

So if I read a positive review, but check out the user and see something like, "Join date: February, 2014. Posts: 1," I'm not going to give it as much credibility as if it was from someone more established. That review is one of two things; a solicited review (which is probably heavily biased towards the escort since what repeat client would want to insult someone he plans to see again), or it's a shill. So, either way, it's only worth so much.

If I were you, I'd concentrate more on putting your best foot forward in your forum posts. The fact that a client can look through your posts and see what kind of personality you have is way better advertising than one off reviews. To me, it's a total turn off when the girls on here are catty and bitchy with one another. Sure, a good cat fight can be amusing to watch, but that doesn't mean that I'd want to book the lady.

I do get your point and seeing you've made 4 posts in 2 1/2 years makes me seriously doubt your credibility to critique me or any of my client reviews. And the point they ARE REGULARS and REPEATS and desire to continue seeing me at 200-300 a pop is really POSITIVE review enough isn't it?! Guys can put in a positive review on 10 girls none of which they return to see again. That says a lot as in -She was good but NOT GOOD ENOUGH to see again.

[Shyla Wild]

Your heads are really like brick walls aren't they? Read my previous post comments about this type of logic.

Still insulting people?

And if nice eyes with FOUR posts in 2 1/2 years wants to talk about CREDIBILITY then he needs to do a couple more 100 posts before I will be taking his credibility seriously. If I want to vent I will vent and why are you jumping to every critics defense anyways Shyla?

Once again, I did not defend anyone. I explained why it was happening to you.

I don't do this in your posts when you are adamantly expressing yourself, especially the sticking my nose into a discussion between you and someone else so please don't in mine.

You don't like it? Too bad. Welcome to Freedom of speech. I never insulted you, which you had no problem doing to me. Everyone has calmly explained to you why this is happening and you insult me, and everyone else. So, how about this. You want to put the this situation behind you. GET A REVIEW FROM SOMEONE THAT IS HERE LONGER THAN YOU. And stop telling people to sign and post reviews because this is what is going to happen. People will doubt you.

Anyways, I tried to help you and you slapped me. Fine...burn alone.

[TSFantasia]

If someone immediately attacks these reviews as fakes then of course I am going to defend them. These guys came in to submit a review PERIOD! They are not here to take part in your OLD BOYS club, etc. If they choose to hang around and do so that is ENTIRELY up to them. This type of reasoning and logic for attacking reviews "Oh the guy just signed up to put in a positive review on a SP then left..must be fake!" Is ridiculous how do you know they left?! Guys browse this forum all the time without signing in or sign in and browse around with out commenting on anything again. SO WHAT..so what. soo what! You guys are making up rules for guys to submit reviews like they must hang around and keep posting, etc. This is RIDICULOUS its like a store asking you to take a few minutes to fill out a customer comments or service review survey then insisting you stay all week so other customers can talk to you to see that you are real....

I do get your point and seeing you've made 4 posts in 2 1/2 years makes me seriously doubt your credibility to critique me or any of my client reviews. And the point they ARE REGULARS and REPEATS and desire to continue seeing me at 200-300 a pop is really POSITIVE review enough isn't it?! Guys can put in a positive review on 10 girls none of which they return to see again. That says a lot as in -She was good but NOT GOOD ENOUGH to see again.

Still insulting people?




Once again, I did not defend anyone. I explained why it was happening to you.




You don't like it? Too bad. Welcome to Freedom of speech. I never insulted you, which you had no problem doing to me. Everyone has calmly explained to you why this is happening and you insult me, and everyone else. So, how about this. You want to put the this situation behind you. GET A REVIEW FROM SOMEONE THAT IS HERE LONGER THAN YOU. And stop telling people to sign and post reviews because this is what is going to happen. People will doubt you.

Anyways, I tried to help you and you slapped me. Fine...burn alone.

I'm attacking irrational logic and I can respond directly to you and I am capable of responding directly to others but thanks for your offer of assistance...to nice eyes and freuden. You are all stating the same rationale and I think its ridiculous ...my points above are why.

[Alexis]

Umm..

I'm attacking irrational logic and I can respond directly to you and I am capable of responding directly to others but thanks for your offer of assistance...to nice eyes and freuden. You are all stating the same rationale and I think its ridiculous ...my points above are why.

I've had this happen to me a couple times here..

I also defended the person I invited to the forum to write the review..

One thing to keep in mind.. Other girls have shill accounts here and pose as men..

They use these accounts to attack others and say horrible things about those whom they perceive as their competitors..

It's easy to get around any security measures to prevent this and it's no fault of the admin..

The fact is several reviews here are fake including bad ones.. several accounts are fake.. some of the accounts are quite old.. 4+ years old..

My suggestion is to defend yourself in a cordial manner and do not take everything here at face value..

[cameeindos]

I reckon if you provide services in good faith, then you have every right to defend yourself if somebody gives a falsely shitty review.

One thing about Web review sites is they don't allow for both sides of the issue. A client may have a legitimate complaint, but then if he gets a good service and somehow wants to spite the girl, then very few sites i've seen have that recourse.

Even still, I think if an escort has been around for a long time, and has a good reputation and many happy clients, then one bad review won't make much difference.

[xoxJanexox]

This thread was started in the general discussion area and there are some important points which need to be clarified as general knowledge to any provider who wish to benefit from:

- Providers should know, or at least expect, that reviews done by new members will be criticized. If not explicitly, then as Shyla said, people would be laughing behind their computer screens.

- Asking clients, at least explicitly, to write reviews is unprofessional and a bad business etiquette.

- Reviews will eventually come and there is no need to rush them or pressure ourselves.

- Reviews neither make a provider nor kill a provider.

- Reviews are "helpful" but "not necessary" for a provider's business.

- Positive reviews can increase our business but we can still make business without them.

- The majority of clients are outside review forums.

The above is my opinion about some general aspects of this thread irrespective of the specifics of the case in this thread.

[TSFantasia]

This thread was started in the general discussion area and there are some important points which need to be clarified as general knowledge to any provider who wish to benefit from:

- Providers should know, or at least expect, that reviews done by new members will be criticized. If not explicitly, then as Shyla said, people would be laughing behind their computer screens.

- Asking clients, at least explicitly, to write reviews is unprofessional and a bad business etiquette.

- Reviews will eventually come and there is no need to rush them or pressure ourselves.

- Reviews neither make a provider nor kill a provider.

- Reviews are "helpful" but "not necessary" for a provider's business.

- Positive reviews can increase our business but we can still make business without them.

- The majority of clients are outside review forums.

The above is my opinion about some general aspects of this thread irrespective of the specifics of the case in this thread.

I agree with most of what you say here and even point one to an extent but everyone is a newbie in this forum at some point and as I have repeated some make use of only certain aspects of it (viewing pics/vids) and nothing else. The Escort reviews is a section of this forum it is there for a specific reason. If a person comes here for that purpose to submit a review they should not be criticized for not participating in other areas of the forum. This is like criticizing someone who goes into the paint dept at Home Depot for not spending time in all the other depts. as well and introducing themselves to all the other sales associates & customers.

It is NOT bad business etiquette or practice to make a customer aware of customer service surveys/feedback options to rate their shopping experience or the business. I get these type of follow up calls/emails all the time from hotels I stay at, car service shops, banks, and retail stores. If the majority of my clients are unaware that this forum exists or that escort reviews maybe of some value to the SP then I am doing nothing wrong in making them aware of it. I'm not telling them to do anything its if they would like to this is where you can.

[TSFantasia]

Join date equals credibility? How about # of posts equals credibility??

Rider014 joined in Oct 2013 his 4th post was a review of me also in Oct/13. He decided he liked the forum and stuck around (some people are forum people and some are not). Now he is at 200+ posts and Freuden has a measly 40 posts since 2010!! LOL what a joke he must not be real, his posts and reviews must be fakes/shills Does that make any SENSE at all? Can I make up that rule too The person with the most posts has the most credibility? Then Rider014 has 5 times and I have 15 times the credibility as Freuden!

If nothing else from all this shit storm I hope those of you following this realize it is NONE of your business to critique another person's review of a SP, neither of which you have met! If you want to submit a review of your sessions go ahead. If you want to start a separate topic thread "Fantasia is a Bitch!" Go ahead!

[bottomguyusually]

Just want to let you know that a word that's actually not a real word or even an acronym for anything won't change my desire to meet you. I'm sure most thinking men feel the same as I do.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shill?s=t