PUTIN: Next Stalin or Hitler? Who's Going To Blink/Backdown?

[Gypsy1955]

I agree Canada would long ago been a Soviet state or Chinese communist satellite if not for the USA and their arsenal as our ally and shield. And I would rather live in a western democracy where, in spite of the corruption and inconsistencies we get to vote politicians and parties in and out of power every 4-5 yrs and don't have to be slaughtered in the street for trying to oust a 20-30yr dictatorship!

Right on! I hear ya girlfriend! And we can fire them before that 4 or 5 years are up if the situation arises.

[Gypsy1955]

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The USA is run by EVIL.. I'm shocked that they haven't had a revolution yet..

Fucking american scumbag corpocracy crap needs to end.. sooner is better than later..

Did you hear today Obama said the EU needs to spend more on military and so does NATO..

WTF For?? Oh wait.. they're supposed to buy American Made arms..

I am all for Ukraine being reunited with Russia as a whole.. I see it to be very possible that this might happen..

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Oh I forgot.. Putin.. I think he's sexy.. Not the hitler type..

Im trying to ignore your comments but they're so flippin' stupid and childish I have to say something. There, I said it!

[BIG MIKE]

So then your good with Ukraine becoming another country where it's illegal to be gay, lesbian, or transgender then? Good to know.

Here we go again...Fantasia you need to get your facts straight before posting in a thread such as this. It is NOT illegal to be gay in Russia no matter what western media may have you believe. It is illegal to promote the lifestyle in public (i.e protests, parades etc). It's not against the law to live the lifestyle.

This shows where it's legal and illegal to be gay and the punishment for it. Maybe you should direct your hatred towards someone who actually deserves it for a change:

[Gypsy1955]

Here we go again...Fantasia you need to get your facts straight before posting in a thread such as this. It is NOT illegal to be gay in Russia no matter what western media may have you believe. It is illegal to promote the lifestyle in public (i.e protests, parades etc). It's not against the law to live the lifestyle.

This shows where it's legal and illegal to be gay and the punishment for it. Maybe you should direct your hatred towards someone who actually deserves it for a change:

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Words words words. Although it may not actually be illegal to be gay in Russia...it is certainly not a lifestyle that is supported or accepted even in the most simplistic terms. Russia is a country where bashing, beating, humiliation or murder someone for being gay is accepted and where authorities turn a blind eye. They live in secret society and in fear. It may as we'll be illegal.

[Gypsy1955]

Misinformed

Harper looks like a total fool going around like some kind of big shot on this issue.

This issue is almost none of our business, and the fact we are spending tax dollars on this at all makes me mad.
There is far more serious issues at home but Harper is getting off on all the attention and talking tough.
My tax dollars should be staying in Canada not propping up some illegitimate government in Ukraine.

Ukraine is not part of NATO and we should save our efforts for people that we are aligned with.
Even then we shouldn't be starting a war with Russia over some tiny republic that was part of Russia for hundreds or even thousands of years.

The west can create a fake country like Israel, yet they are upset about Russia joining with a country they have been aligned with forever. Western leaders are a bunch of hypocrites.

Most of the Canadians who say they are of Ukrainian descent are actually of Russian descent because their roots are before the country was independent.

Ukraine is a failed state with no money and an illegitimate government.
Why is it our job to bail them out?
In reality they would be far better off as part of Russia than the way they are now.
Crimea recognized this long ago.

If parts of Mexico or Canada started to melt down, the USA would not hesitate to do something similar.
So why can't Russia police things in it's own region?
Ukraine is a shit show right now.
The fact they are trying to distance themselves from their neighbour and closest ally makes no sense either.
What the fuck is Canada going to do for them, compared to what Russia can do for them.
Not a damn thing.

Russia, to the majority of the people who are poor btw, is also a failed state laden with the same corruption as what Ukraine to attempting to eliminate. Russia can and will do nothing for them, as the people in Crimea will see. They are simply living off the hopes of ole' mother Russia and USSR mentality. You tell me how a non-business man, Putin, a Low ranking military officer (KGB) amassed an unknown fortune, 20 castle type mansions around Europe, 30 yachts, 40 of his own jets! Have you not been reading and seeing what Yanukovich and his band of thieves have amassed? They stole enough to save Ukraine! Yanukovich alone is found to have pilfered 10 billion annually, for HIMSELF! Putin has stolen MORE! That's why he's telling his friends to now pay taxes...THEY stole enough to keep Russia afloat longer...just by paying taxes!

[Gypsy1955]

Russian Taxes

Russia, to the majority of the people who are poor btw, is also a failed state laden with alcoholism (which leads to wife and child abuse and is accepted part of their culture), drug addiction and the same corruption as what Ukraine is attempting to eliminate. Ukrainians should be applauded for "finally standing up, telling the tyranniests they've had enough!" Russia can and will do nothing for them, as the people in Crimea will discover. They are simply living off the hopes of ole' mother Russia and USSR mentality. THEY HAVE TO GET OVER IT! LET IT GO! You tell me how a non-business man, Putin, a Low ranking military officer (KGB) amassed an unknown fortune, 20 castle type mansions scattered around Europe, 30 yachts, 40 of his own jets! Have you not been reading and seeing what Yanukovich and his band of thieves have amassed? They stole enough that could have saved Ukraine! Yanukovich alone is found to have pilfered minimum 10 billion annually, for HIMSELF! Putin has stolen MORE! That's why he's telling his friends to now pay taxes...THEY stole enough to keep Russia afloat longer...just by paying their taxes!

To those of you asking why Canada, USA, EU, UK, etc are getting involved London got bombed...Blitzkrieg, USA got hit on their own soil...Pearl Harbour and drawn into the 2nd world war. Who actually believes it will stop there? For Russia, who's next? Poland? Germany? Czechoslovakia (again!)Hence the problem...it will not stop there!

And I'm not trying to defend USA, I'm seeing it like it is. It's an argument that one can never win...until the enemy is on your doorstep! Then who will you go crying to for protection?!

[TSFantasia]

Here we go again...Fantasia you need to get your facts straight before posting in a thread such as this. It is NOT illegal to be gay in Russia no matter what western media may have you believe. It is illegal to promote the lifestyle in public (i.e protests, parades etc). It's not against the law to live the lifestyle.

This shows where it's legal and illegal to be gay and the punishment for it. Maybe you should direct your hatred towards someone who actually deserves it for a change:

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HOLY COW dude what's with your personal attacks?! Let me guess your a guy who craves to suck and being fucked by big cocks and still wants to call himself straight..LOL. I have no hatred towards closet gays I just think people's denial of their own sexuality based on their actions is ridiculous and in some cases dangerous. Obviously you are harbouring some of that against me sorry if I just won't buy into guys denial and state the obvious.

[Alexis]

Umm.. ya.. right..

So then your good with Ukraine becoming another country where it's illegal to be gay, lesbian, or transgender then? Good to know.

It's not illegal to be gay or trans in Russia.. I know lots of Russian people, friends & clients..

All tho I'm sure the new Nazi leadership in Ukraine would like it to be illegal to be gay or trans..

Im trying to ignore your comments but they're so flippin' stupid and childish I have to say something. There, I said it!

Oh really? Well then you're just the type of debt slave the government loves..

Maybe you should take a closer look at what the USA has been doing and how the IMF and the Global Bank puts whole countries into slavery with debt..

They grow our food while they starve and we throw half of it in the garbage..

You do realize that once Europe is broke we are next on the list for Austerity Measures right? You know what they did in Greece right?

Maybe you should wake up and look at the world around you and see that one country after another is going broke.. Maybe realize that things really are run by the bankers..

And never mind the 1 million dead in Iraq and 800k dead in Afghanistan..

The USA has started or involved itself in wars and coup's that have killed 20 million people since 1960..

Now the USA is getting desperate as they are about to loose their status as the world reserve currency..

It's a scary thing as it means the USA will go broke at that point leaving 380 million people very very desperate..

#1 export of Russia.. energy reserves.. #1 export for the USA.. military equipment & weapons..

Fuck the USA and Fuck Israel.. They both the biggest war mongers on the fucking planet!

[TSFantasia]

It's not illegal to be gay or trans in Russia.. I know lots of Russian people, friends & clients..

All tho I'm sure the new Nazi leadership in Ukraine would like it to be illegal to be gay or trans..



Oh really? Well then you're just the type of debt slave the government loves..

Maybe you should take a closer look at what the USA has been doing and how the IMF and the Global Bank puts whole countries into slavery with debt..

They grow our food while they starve and we throw half of it in the garbage..

You do realize that once Europe is broke we are next on the list for Austerity Measures right? You know what they did in Greece right?

Maybe you should wake up and look at the world around you and see that one country after another is going broke.. Maybe realize that things really are run by the bankers..

And never mind the 1 million dead in Iraq and 800k dead in Afghanistan..

The USA has started or involved itself in wars and coup's that have killed 20 million people since 1960..

Now the USA is getting desperate as they are about to loose their status as the world reserve currency..

It's a scary thing as it means the USA will go broke at that point leaving 380 million people very very desperate..

#1 export of Russia.. energy reserves.. #1 export for the USA.. military equipment & weapons..

Fuck the USA and Fuck Israel.. They both the biggest war mongers on the fucking planet!

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That maybe true that being gay or trans is not illegal per se in Russia yet. However, I'm sure their current legislation against public promoting (parades, protests) can be interpreted to deny legal and civil rights to the gay/trans community for even being suspected of being gay or trans. That's why the international LGBT community protested the SOCHI Olympics.

And when does the illuminati and Catholic church come into your conspiracist American/ Jew hating theories?

[BIG MIKE]

HOLY COW dude what's with your personal attacks?! Let me guess your a guy who craves to suck and being fucked by big cocks and still wants to call himself straight..LOL. I have no hatred towards closet gays I just think people's denial of their own sexuality based on their actions is ridiculous and in some cases dangerous. Obviously you are harbouring some of that against me sorry if I just won't buy into guys denial and state the obvious.

Fantasia,

You posted an ignorant, uninformed flippant remark that it's illegal to be gay in Russia. It clearly isn't. I replied to your post with a statement of fact, it was not a personal attack but a rebuttal. Your immature response to me about being closeted just proves my point. People get very defensive when they are proven wrong, especially when they have absolutely nothing to back up their argument, much like yourself. So said person (in this case you) ends up changing the subject to deflect the truth. Kind of like you bringing up sexuality denial and all kinds of other nonsense.

You're making yourself look pretty stupid and petty.

[TSFantasia]

Fantasia,

You posted an ignorant, uninformed flippant remark that it's illegal to be gay in Russia. It clearly isn't. I replied to your post with a statement of fact, it was not a personal attack but a rebuttal. Your immature response to me about being closeted just proves my point. People get very defensive when they are proven wrong, especially when they have absolutely nothing to back up their argument, much like yourself. So said person (in this case you) ends up changing the subject to deflect the truth. Kind of like you bringing up sexuality denial and all kinds of other nonsense.

You're making yourself look pretty stupid and petty.

You said in your first response that I was being na?ve and get my head out of the sand (same as saying get my head out of my ass) if I thought the US was innocent, which I had already stated they were not. Then you said I should direct my "hatred" towards someone who deserves it for a change, over what? Suggesting that Russia's current anti-gay legislation effectively makes it illegal or at least encourages discrimination and the denial or legal and civil rights to the LGBT community. Prostitution per se was never illegal in Canada but all the busted prostitutes and Johns would suggest otherwise (Oh yeah it wasn't illegal just illegal to be seen promoting or talking about it in a public place. Funny how you can make something illegal without wording it that way. I'm sure the Harper government is working on another way to make prostitution "not illegal but still illegal" right now! )Suggesting you are harbouring hostility towards some of my other views/posts. And I know the ones that have been fought tooth and nail over. So yeah that's my guess over the hostility that you are showing as they have nothing to do with my comments here (until now).

[BIG MIKE]

You said in your first response that I was being na?ve and get my head out of the sand (same as saying get your head out of my ass) if I thought the US was innocent, which I had already stated they were not. Then you said I should direct my "hatred" towards someone who deserves it for a change, over what? Suggesting that Russia's current anti-gay legislation effectively makes it illegal or at least encourages discrimination and the denial or legal and civil rights to the LGBT community. Prostitution per se was never illegal in Canada but all the busted prostitutes and Johns would suggest otherwise (Oh yeah it wasn't illegal just illegal to be seen promoting or talking about it in a public place. Suggesting you are harbouring hostility towards some of my other views/posts. And I know the ones that have been fought tooth and nail over. So yeah that's my guess over the hostility that you are showing as they have nothing to do with my comments here (until now).

I think this is why political threads should be banned LOL. People will never agree so why bother. Look, do I think the situation in Russia is ideal as far as being gay is concerned? Absolutely not. But I do think that there is this undercurrent of misguided attention paid to a country where homosexuality isn't illegal and isn't punishable by law. There culture is different over there but you won't get beheaded or thrown in jail by the Government for being gay unless you are protesting in the streets, throwing a parade or handing out pamphlets. There's a long lists of countries on that list I provided where if you live a gay lifestyle you go to jail or get put to death...period. Why is there so much attention being paid to Russia when other countries are dong far worse things to people for simply living their lives? It's not illegal to be gay in Russia but everyone is slamming them for their anti-gay laws? Nobody seems to want to answer that question, why they are being singled out. I believe that's a very important question.

And when I said to you to give your head a shake, I mean that in a way that people should not only listen to one side or source for information and news. News is used for propaganda in all parts of the world, yes even in North America. The major news corporations tow the Government line. CNN, CTV, CBC, they are all feeding everyone the same shit.

[Gypsy1955]

Yes really!

It's not illegal to be gay or trans in Russia.. I know lots of Russian people, friends & clients..

All tho I'm sure the new Nazi leadership in Ukraine would like it to be illegal to be gay or trans..



Oh really? Well then you're just the type of debt slave the government loves..

Maybe you should take a closer look at what the USA has been doing and how the IMF and the Global Bank puts whole countries into slavery with debt..

They grow our food while they starve and we throw half of it in the garbage..

You do realize that once Europe is broke we are next on the list for Austerity Measures right? You know what they did in Greece right?

Maybe you should wake up and look at the world around you and see that one country after another is going broke.. Maybe realize that things really are run by the bankers..

And never mind the 1 million dead in Iraq and 800k dead in Afghanistan..

The USA has started or involved itself in wars and coup's that have killed 20 million people since 1960..

Now the USA is getting desperate as they are about to loose their status as the world reserve currency..

It's a scary thing as it means the USA will go broke at that point leaving 380 million people very very desperate..

#1 export of Russia.. energy reserves.. #1 export for the USA.. military equipment & weapons..

Fuck the USA and Fuck Israel.. They both the biggest war mongers on the fucking planet!

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So you fuck guys in the ass for a living, I ass-umme making pretty good money...how much taxes are you paying for your earnings? If anything! Are you getting social assistance because you don't show any income? Yet you are soooo ungrateful for your freedom! So, read up some more...gain some knowledge based on fact not emotional opinions. Don't just study USA or Israel, that's pretty shallow, do just a little research on some of the countries you defend. You won't find much, know why? It's hidden!! It doesn't make the news for the world to see, like it does in the USA! There's no "stats" or newspapers reporting the killings or atrocities, like in the USA! First thing these countries do is control the media for their propaganda! It's called "state owned" and their jobs are to make their government look good, hide the sometimes dreadful truth from the people and the world. Don't you know that's what Communism was built on? That's what people fear? They would simply disappear never to be heard of or seen again. You would be singing a different song, dancing a different dance if you lived in Russia. As a TG you'd get the crap beat out of you every day, raped, when you report it the authorities will laugh at you! The freedom you have was won by militaries fighting against countries like Russia, Iran, Iraq, Germany, etc. In Russia and many other countries we'd be jailed just for having this type of conversation. Yes, RUSSIA! FREEDOM FOR ALL!! NOT!!!

Food and starvation...you actually compare "forcefully starving a country" to "not providing enough food to feed the world!" WHEW! I don't know what to say!

before i forget...you do realize RUSSIA invaded Afghanistan? They were at war for almost 10 years, Russia could not defeat them and finally went home. Google how many afghans Russia murdered why don't ya!

[Gypsy1955]

See what they want to see

You said in your first response that I was being na?ve and get my head out of the sand (same as saying get my head out of my ass) if I thought the US was innocent, which I had already stated they were not. Then you said I should direct my "hatred" towards someone who deserves it for a change, over what? Suggesting that Russia's current anti-gay legislation effectively makes it illegal or at least encourages discrimination and the denial or legal and civil rights to the LGBT community. Prostitution per se was never illegal in Canada but all the busted prostitutes and Johns would suggest otherwise (Oh yeah it wasn't illegal just illegal to be seen promoting or talking about it in a public place. Funny how you can make something illegal without wording it that way. I'm sure the Harper government is working on another way to make prostitution "not illegal but still illegal" right now! )Suggesting you are harbouring hostility towards some of my other views/posts. And I know the ones that have been fought tooth and nail over. So yeah that's my guess over the hostility that you are showing as they have nothing to do with my comments here (until now).

Fantasia, Again you are right. For some reason people refuse to see the depth of words or translate to their own understanding. They refuse to see the depth and interpret only as a straight line, not reading into the line. I understood you were not defending the US, and neither am I. But, who or where would the free world be without them?! Like you I'm not waving the Stars And Stripes...but I'd certainly rather have them as my neighbours than Russia!

[Guest]

Why all of this bickering?

Hi all,

You know, maybe reading this wiki article could clear some things up - instead of people just throwing their opinions (and insults) around.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_ri...rent_situation

Just a suggestion.
Babe,
xoxo