ESCORTING: Making Guys Pay Their Share of the Fantasy :)

[TSFantasia]

I do agree with Alexis that straight men are so ridiculous right now around trans women, not understanding that trans women have the pick of the litter with the hottest guys in any city. The whole presumption that any guy would get any discount is absurd. Supply and demand is a very simple metric and devastates any bullshit written about by complaining men on Internet boards. Trans women are in extraordinary demand right now as straight men discover the pleasure of their assholes and how a nice cock feels in their mouth.

I have GG escort friends who charge $1000 for two hours work, and they have just ok looks. I have one friend who does prostate massage on "straight" men and gets mad money for doing so, because she is highly skilled and also hot. I have trained many trans women in erotic massage and watched their rates go through the roof, regardless of their looks or functionality. Trans women are in hot demand right now, and they are a "specialized" segment of the escort market.

I think most trans women are undercharging, but in the end it's the market that speaks. It doesn't help that SC is tacky and ugly. Shemales in Canada need a much slicker venue to show their talents.

I agree that shemale/t-girl escorts are automatically a specialized and unique commodity which warrants a premium rate. Shemales/t-girls are rare in most cities and markets and in high demand, if for nothing else for the fantasy fetish fuck and check that off my bucket list fantasy. And I think even in more saturated markets like Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal they are out-numbered by the available female escorts at least 10-1.

There are many justifications for t-girls to charge a higher rate than GG escorts ie rarity, supply & demand. The fact that most advanced t-girls have spent way more on getting to where they are than the average GG escort, who in most cases just goes with what they were naturally given. But it's always what the market will bear as to what we can realistically charge and still get clients.

[GTanker]

It really isn't Supply and Demand (SD) that is driving this...it's just one piece of a bigger equation, just sayin.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

Once we legalize escort services and really apply business principles and rules to this sector someone is going to make a lot of money.

Even Europe is still looking at this sector like a mom and pop operation...wait till it goes corporate.

[Alexis]

It really isn't Supply and Demand (SD) that is driving this...it's just one piece of a bigger equation, just sayin.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

Once we legalize escort services and really apply business principles and rules to this sector someone is going to make a lot of money.

Even Europe is still looking at this sector like a mom and pop operation...wait till it goes corporate.

I think Backpage.com is already making a lot of money.. they make thousands every day from every city.. thousands of cities..

and it's all offshore so they pay no tax anywhere.. based in Gibraltar for their financial transactions.. they're big in bitcoin too..

Other escort advertising services do well too.. but not like backpage these days.. it's $10+ an ad for each female ad in most big cities.. 5-10 for tgirls..

From the USA and Canada they rake in about $1 million a day gross..

My advertising costs are about 700/month.. between print and online..

[Franklinzed]

This is complete and utter nonsense, which ironically gets repeated by far too many trans women who don't even understand what it is that "straight" men see in them.

The vast majority of men who see trans women are not in the least bit attracted to masculine men, or indeed "cock." I would argue that a huge raft of men are simply suffering from "transference" where they see so much porn where beautiful women are sucking on cocks, that they start to see the cock other than their own as desirable for its own sake.

The rest of men are simply seeing womanly curves, soft and hairless skin, rich lips, makeup, boobs...all the triggers of straight male desire. This at a time when men are starting to discover the pleasure of their own assholes without (as much) fear. It's the perfect storm for the rising desire for trans women. We are indeed embodying our desire to be both masculine and feminine. It's not about getting into cock through the side door of a women's body. It's actually that all the feminine characteristics make the cock the perfect balancing of male and female energies in bodily form. The cock is the lightning rod (lol) for all that constellated male desire for the female form. THAT'S the attraction, not just the cock.

A masculine chiselled guy with a cock in his underwear? Not the least bit attractive to me sexually. A super fem, curvy woman having her cocked tucked under lovely lingerie? Blam! Cock looks delicious. It's the context and the totality of the experience. Stop reducing men to all being closeted gays who really, truly want to suck cock. It's just not the case for the vast majority of men who are attracted to trans women. It's something much, much more complicated and complete.

Of course there are zillions of men in denial about what they desire, but there's also way more men who are seeing the third sex as the true intersex form of their deeply embedded and evolutionary characteristics, both emotional and physical. If you have a trans woman who has an ass pussy, then the vagina becomes less "important" when you have a trans tool that can plunge your own ass, and be sucked for your own pleasure. It's just a more "evolved" form on some level, which is why trans women are in such high demand.

Many men I know find themselves bored with gg's after a trip to Thailand, because ladyboys are so supremely more fun than gg's because of the prescence of that stick that adds so many items to the menu But that doesn't mean they want to fuck Thai boys. And most don't.

This is one of the best explanations I've come across on the subject

[TSFantasia]

I"m Straight!! Oh sorry to hear that my condolences

When I hear some one say this as if it were a badge of honour or some how makes them better than those who self identify as bisexual, lesbian or gay makes me feel sorry for them and at the same time identifies them as some one very narrow minded and somehow stuck in the past due to religious or moral platitudes. Of course the same person is likely sinning up a storm in every other area of their life but as long as they can wear the "I'm straight" badge all is right with the world and the Good Lord will understand their other failings and shortcomings and welcome them through the pearly gates!

Of course, I get into lots of hot water and controversy on this forum stating the obvious as far as technical word definitions regarding sexuality and sexual orientation goes. The problem is that the "I'm straight!!" mentality sees being called bi or gay as an insult when it's not as it is no more right or wrong to be hetero, bi, or homosexual in one's preference and sexuality This is a major problem for trans women and trans attracted men (men who see them as the female gender regardless of the current state of their genitalia).

Because as long as men feel ashamed over being identified as anything other than straight heterosexual then they will also be ashamed of dating or being seen with trans women. All the arguments that try to convince everyone and society that it is somehow a straight hetero relationship as noble as they may be fall short ,as society will never whole-heartedly look at it that way and so the men who are ashamed or paranoid or too concerned what others say and think will never openly date trans women thereby punishing both themselves and trans women with unfulfilling meaningless discreet encounters.

My personal vote is for a pan or omnisexual world where people's attraction to one another is not based on genitalia or even gender for that matter it's more the attraction to the person and their personality, character, common interests, goals and lifeviews ,which makes them a great life partner or "soulmate" not whether or not Part A fits into Part B. May be attraction to trans women is a move in the right direction and that standard sexual orientation definitions don't apply but until men let go of the "I'm straight" standard I doubt that much will change for trans attracted men or trans women in the near future.

[cameeindos]

When I hear some one say this as if it were a badge of honour or some how makes them better than those who self identify as bisexual, lesbian or gay makes me feel sorry for them and at the same time identifies them as some one very narrow minded and somehow stuck in the past due to religious or moral platitudes. Of course the same person is likely sinning up a storm in every other area of their life but as long as they can wear the "I'm straight" badge all is right with the world and the Good Lord will understand their other failings and shortcomings and welcome them through the pearly gates!

Of course, I get into lots of hot water and controversy on this forum stating the obvious as far as technical word definitions regarding sexuality and sexual orientation goes. The problem is that the "I'm straight!!" mentality sees being called bi or gay as an insult when it's not as it is no more right or wrong to be hetero, bi, or homosexual in one's preference and sexuality This is a major problem for trans women and trans attracted men (men who see them as the female gender regardless of the current state of their genitalia).

Because as long as men feel ashamed over being identified as anything other than straight heterosexual then they will also be ashamed of dating or being seen with trans women. All the arguments that try to convince everyone and society that it is somehow a straight hetero relationship as noble as they may be fall short ,as society will never whole-heartedly look at it that way and so the men who are ashamed or paranoid or too concerned what others say and think will never openly date trans women thereby punishing both themselves and trans women with unfulfilling meaningless discreet encounters.

My personal vote is for a pan or omnisexual world where people's attraction to one another is not based on genitalia or even gender for that matter it's more the attraction to the person and their personality, character, common interests, goals and lifeviews ,which makes them a great life partner or "soulmate" not whether or not Part A fits into Part B. May be attraction to trans women is a move in the right direction and that standard sexual orientation definitions don't apply but until men let go of the "I'm straight" standard I doubt that much will change for trans attracted men or trans women in the near future.

you've condemned men for liking TSs as gays, haven't you? and supported others who have lol... sorry, you're not making much sense...

[TSFantasia]

you've condemned men for liking TSs as gays, haven't you? and supported others who have lol... sorry, you're not making much sense...

YUCK ,YUCK I've never said any such thing I've only said guys who engage in sexual activities with transsexuals are not straight heterosexual that they are at least bisexual even if their bisexual activities is restricted to TSs. I've also implied that those who bottom only and are not aroused by the sight of beautiful women standing in front them and only interest is in having them thrust their cock in their mouth and ass may in fact be in denial gays. This is NOT a condemnation if you read the whole point of my last post and understood that calling some one straight, bi, or gay is not an insult and neither one is better than the other you wouldn't be coming back with this little glib remark! Yuck yuck yuck!

[cameeindos]

YUCK ,YUCK I've never said any such thing I've only said guys who engage in sexual activities with transsexuals are not straight heterosexual that they are at least bisexual even if their bisexual activities is restricted to TSs. I've also implied that those who bottom only and are not aroused by the sight of beautiful women standing in front them and only interest is in having them thrust their cock in their mouth and ass may in fact be in denial gays. This is NOT a condemnation if you read the whole point of my last post and understood that calling some one straight, bi, or gay is not an insult and neither one is better than the other you wouldn't be coming back with this little glib remark! Yuck yuck yuck!

er....I think you have, but meh....not bothered.

[TSFantasia]

er....I think you have, but meh....not bothered.

Nope not once since being gay is no more a condemnation than being called straight. But way da miss the point completely
All you guys are just phenomenal "dodgers" reminds me of a movie clip!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc4cBiSXoCs