I lol'd so hard when I saw Poster boy's tweet about how he will not decriminalize marijuana, and with arguments against decriminalization that completely contradict the arguments he was using pushing for decriminalization when he was making campaign promises. Oh how the many of the nation who voted for him simply for the issue of legalization and decriminalization have been duped. JUST LOL. The hits are gonna keep coming.
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Exactly, it reminds me of that US politician with the giant boot on his head. Vermin Supreme. I want my free pony!Originally posted by Tendulain View PostI lol'd so hard when I saw Poster boy's tweet about how he will not decriminalize marijuana, and with arguments against decriminalization that completely contradict the arguments he was using pushing for decriminalization when he was making campaign promises. Oh how the many of the nation who voted for him simply for the issue of legalization and decriminalization have been duped. JUST LOL. The hits are gonna keep coming.Last edited by alex99; 03-02-2016, 10:56 PM.
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Originally posted by Tendulain View PostI lol'd so hard when I saw Poster boy's tweet about how he will not decriminalize marijuana, and with arguments against decriminalization that completely contradict the arguments he was using pushing for decriminalization when he was making campaign promises. Oh how the many of the nation who voted for him simply for the issue of legalization and decriminalization have been duped. JUST LOL. The hits are gonna keep coming.
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Now he's also granting convicted terrorist Zakaria Amara who plotted to detonate bombs and storm the CBC and Parliament Hill, also behead the prime minister back his citizenship which was revoked by the previous government and is now instead of being deported and put on a no fly list is gonna be sitting pretty in a canadian jail with his citizenship re-instated. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL wtf
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Does this POS even love Canada? He seems to have everyone's best interest in heart, EXCEPT ACTUAL Canadians. Its stuff like this, this type of mindset that make people think he is going to be Canada's worst PM ever.Originally posted by Tendulain View PostNow he's also granting convicted terrorist Zakaria Amara who plotted to detonate bombs and storm the CBC and Parliament Hill, also behead the prime minister back his citizenship which was revoked by the previous government and is now instead of being deported and put on a no fly list is gonna be sitting pretty in a canadian jail with his citizenship re-instated. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL wtfI am Greep, hear me roar
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You do realize they are repealing a specific law that could be expanded to be used to abuse Canadian citizens. The concept is once you open that door it keeps opening wider. They aren't specifically granting this one man his citizenship back; he will get it back when this law is repealed for everyone.Originally posted by Tendulain View PostNow he's also granting convicted terrorist Zakaria Amara who plotted to detonate bombs and storm the CBC and Parliament Hill, also behead the prime minister back his citizenship which was revoked by the previous government and is now instead of being deported and put on a no fly list is gonna be sitting pretty in a canadian jail with his citizenship re-instated. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL wtf
This is similar to the iPhone stuff with the american shooter. Yes, on it's own, it seems good to get into this guy's phone. However, the bigger picture is that new piece of software could be used by law enforcement on an expanding basis to violate a lot of people. This is the same concept.
I find it hard to throw an entire citizenry under the bus because it looks good to punish a few specific bad individuals. This is one of the powerful tools government uses to strip away privacy and liberty from their citizens; focus laws and actions that affect everyone, on disgraceful individuals and crimes, so people are willing to give up their rights and freedoms without a second thought. Harper did a lot of this and some of it needs to be addressed.
If you attempt to make laws with the goal of zero crime and zero cracks, you end up destroying your democracy and crimes still happen. There has to be a balance for safety, security, and punishment along with the preservation of democratic rights and freedoms. We could certainly stop more crimes if we put cameras in everyone's living rooms or put tracking chips in every Canadian resident. Those types of things are very dangerous even if they stop some crimes. It is very wrong to strip everyone of freedoms just so we can get our whips out on a particular evil person and get our pound of flesh.
This revoking of citizenship sounds nice on the surface. However, certain governments could take it and expand it to cover more crimes and it goes far beyond the original intent of where it started. This is the slope the PM doesn't want us to go down. For example, we have a DNA registry. It started with sexual offenders (sounds nice on the surface)... over the years it has expanded and judges routinely order it in such a wide scope for first time white collar offenders. It is far beyond it's original intent and that is why there needs to be caution in this case as well. Law enforcement will take any crack they get and push it as far as they can to the point is abuses a lot of people.
It always amazed me how eagerly Harperists were willing to give up their privacy, freedom, and democracy in the name of "throw everyone in jail, fuck the homeless, fuck liberals, longer sentences, no warrants, lets go on and on!!!!". Easy to say until it affects you or someone you care about. Even more amazing is the support he got here considering he stripped away more freedoms and branded all of us criminals for wanting to pay for sexual experiences and technically wanted to put us in jail or at least destroy our reputations with criminal records. It is only the grace of local police forces that this bill was not enforced aggressively.
Trudeau is really trying to re-set our democracy back to where it was before Harper got his majority and stripped so much of our democracy away. Is that good or bad? Well, Canada was an awesome place for 100+ years so going back to where it was a few years ago is not such a bad idea. Harper went too far in the name of controlling and managing every individual citizen and resident "in the name of security".
PS - prostitution and politics all in the same forum. I love it!Last edited by vancouverman; 03-03-2016, 04:47 PM.
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Originally posted by vancouverman View Post
It always amazed me how eagerly Harperists were willing to give up their privacy, freedom, and democracy........... i
..... Harper went too far in the name of controlling and managing every individual citizen and resident "in the name of security.
What country have you been living in the last 8 years
Ive been in the same Canada as you and I certainly dont feel like any of my freedoms were controlled or managed, lol. (not any more than usual anyway's, lol) What a twisted and exaggerated interpretation of the the last 8 years. Our government did what they had to do to keep our country safe. And they succeeded.
I hope Trudeau can do the same. I'm not confident. He seems to be on the side of the terrorists.
I'm curious, how were YOUR freedoms controlled and managed unfairly, or unjustly under the last government, and how did it affect your life, do tell? Maybe i'm missing something?I am Greep, hear me roar
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Hey, I get people saying "if it doesn't affect me, who cares".... Harper stripped away a lot and muzzled his MP's and ruled like a dictator. If it doesn't matter to you unless you experience personally, no problem. I look at the entire citizenry and it outraged me what was going on even if it didn't affect me.Originally posted by greep View PostWhat country have you been living in the last 8 years
Ive been in the same Canada as you and I certainly dont feel like any of my freedoms were controlled or managed, lol.
Although, you do pay for sex, and you were branded a criminal under Harper's reign and that at the very least should have got your attention.
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You're really grasping at straws here, Mr. Harper changed the laws to make it easier to prosecute pimps who prey on children. Also, to make it easier for the cops to bust johns cruising family neighbourhoods looking for street action.Originally posted by vancouverman View PostHey, I get people saying "if it doesn't affect me, who cares".... Harper stripped away a lot and muzzled his MP's and ruled like a dictator. If it doesn't matter to you unless you experience personally, no problem. I look at the entire citizenry and it outraged me what was going on even if it didn't affect me.
Although, you do pay for sex, and you were branded a criminal under Harper's reign and that at the very least should have got your attention.
I don't know about you, but I really wouldn't want a hooker stroll on the street where I own my house. Kind of takes a dump on property value, as well as the crime that goes with it.
There have been no massive busts of independent escorts or massage parlours. Keep your business on private property, behind closed doors & cops won't bother you.
As for Trudeau ... it won't take long until he's caught up in some major scandal. I doubt he'll last 4 years. Chretien was a total criminal with the whole AdScam/Liberal kick back thing, but he managed to slime his way out of getting caught. Trudeau isn't as smart as Chretien, he'll crash & burn. That's a given.
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Well, his law was intended for all of us, including you and me. It did not have to be written the way it was to go after child prostitution and street action. The only reason there have not been busts is because Canadian police forces did a big yawn and basically refused to devote resources to enforcing it. Harper was very eager to see you and me get criminal records over seeing sex workers and was not pleased when his new law was basically ignored.Originally posted by Locomotion View PostYou're really grasping at straws here, Mr. Harper changed the laws to make it easier to prosecute pimps who prey on children. Also, to make it easier for the cops to bust johns cruising family neighbourhoods looking for street action.
There have been no massive busts of independent escorts or massage parlours. Keep your business on private property, behind closed doors & cops won't bother you.
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And what you said is BINGO to my earlier discussion. He frames what he does by attaching it to some evil, so people don't notice that it strips away things that affect the entire country. You went for it to by supporting his prostitution law here in this comment.
sigh... Harper really did a number when he hijacked the entire conservative movement. I hope over the next few years they can go back to being part of our country instead of attacking anything that moves that is not under their banner.
As for your scandal comments... What puzzles me is why a scandal under Trudeau is so heinous, yet the Harper government had dozens of them and this is no problem for his supporters. 100+ billion in deficits is totally cool under Harper but a disaster under Trudeau. Corruption under Cretien is horrifying yet corruption under Harper is no problem. This blind support/hate based on party lines lacks objectivity to the extreme and is not healthy for debate. Everyone should be able to criticize politicians of all parties and not be so blind to ignore the negatives of the person they voted for and trash the same mistakes with someone they didn't vote for.
I will give it to Harper, the percent of our country that really supported him. REALLY supported him no matter what. It was interesting how he pulled that off.
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Oil prices are down yeah, but the problem is Mr. Selphie isn't doing anything to help fix the situation. Nor did Mr Harpie do anything about it!Originally posted by Locomotion View PostOil prices are down yeah, but the problem is Mr. Selphie isn't doing anything to help fix the situation. Some fat French mayor in Montreal says he doesn't want the job creating energy east pipeline to run through Quebec due to "environmental concerns" and Mr. Selphie agrees, yet allows this same hypocritical asshole to dump tons of raw sewage into the St. Lawrence river. Oil is our nations number one export. When Alberta suffers, Canada suffers. Since he doesn't want the pipeline going through Quebec, I think it's only fair that we suspend billions of transfer payments to Quebec.
As for separation, The Alberta Independence Movement party is registering as an official voting option at our next election. The party leader has had numerous interviews on radio and TV.
Unlike Quebec, Alberta could actually AFFORD to separate. Without the transfer payments to Ottawa, independence would make every Albertan a millionaire, and the AIM will make no secret of it. So don't laugh, there is a real possibility of this becoming a reality.
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I was highly concerned with the last regime under Mr Harpy and thank god he was reelected or our rights would have been further stripped by a dictator. Junior and his strong team has done more in ten weeks then tens years of damage under the Harpy. done more with the rest of the world; our neighbours to the south; the provinces; the aborigines; the courts; the scientists; the environmentalists; the media; etc. Besides that he has done nothing; with a lot more nothing to come to repair the stupidity of the previous individual who thankfully, despite his numerous undemocratic, unhanded ploys failed to steal the election. I guess all of Atlantic Canada was wrong!Originally posted by greep View PostWhat country have you been living in the last 8 years
Ive been in the same Canada as you and I certainly dont feel like any of my freedoms were controlled or managed, lol. (not any more than usual anyway's, lol) What a twisted and exaggerated interpretation of the the last 8 years. Our government did what they had to do to keep our country safe. And they succeeded.
I hope Trudeau can do the same. I'm not confident. He seems to be on the side of the terrorists.
I'm curious, how were YOUR freedoms controlled and managed unfairly, or unjustly under the last government, and how did it affect your life, do tell? Maybe i'm missing something?
I am Gripe! Hear me roar like a mouse!
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Originally posted by Bacchus Boy View PostI was highly concerned with the last regime under Mr Harpy and thank god he was reelected or our rights would have been further stripped by a dictator. Junior and his strong team has done more in ten weeks then tens years of damage under the Harpy. done more with the rest of the world; our neighbours to the south; the provinces; the aborigines; the courts; the scientists; the environmentalists; the media; etc. Besides that he has done nothing; with a lot more nothing to come to repair the stupidity of the previous individual who thankfully, despite his numerous undemocratic, unhanded ploys failed to steal the election. I guess all of Atlantic Canada was wrong!
I am Gripe! Hear me roar like a mouse!
My Gawd, Your right PM Hitler, er Harper was so horrendous how did we all get through it
....................Justin to save the day! Isis rejoice!
I still havent heard how he specifically ruined this country, Ive lived here all along and my life was great......you poor things, how dare Harper trample on your rights and freedoms...odd..mine were kept just fine.I am Greep, hear me roar
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