What would you feel is acceptable for one hour with a Toronto Shemale Escort

[sensual_lover20]

I hope i don't hurt anybody's feeling here.

I guess drugs are not cheap, but we are becoming addicted to it, thus some guys buy it anyway...(and if we dig out this matters more..we'll find criminality cases related to drugs addiction).

Sex is not addicted (at least to most of us), but yes it is a necessity. Those who do not have the money to see a particular upscale escort most likely will find a sex worker who suits his wallet.

We'll find good guys in every social class...i'm sorry for mentioning different classes here. But based on facts, the sex providers who are killed, harrassed, and raped are those who work on the street, charging much cheaper and exposing themselves to much higher risks.

There is some truth in Toban's comment

Here in Toronto, we have roughly 30 tg escorts so far, mostly Asians. I know only 2 who can afford some luxuries in their lifes. So 2 out of 30 is less than 10%.

How about the rest? Have you ever seen an ad written available 24/7? What does it tell you? Do you think a tg escort who have enough income will do that? Have you ever seen some tg escorts in tranny alleys at 5.00 am? I have seen them couple times!

Not to mention that we have so many expenses to pay. One week ad on EYE mag costs ranging from $110 to thousands per week. I've paid 200 each week. How about other ads..Now..Eros..theredzone...? How about buying some new stockings..stillettos...lingeries....? How about paying rent? How about sending money to SUPPORT OUR FAMILY back home?

On top of that, how many years do you think an escort can work and live descently from her income? Have you seen one particular escort more than 3 years or you are most likely seeing another escort(s) after all that years?
How many regulars do you think an escort will have after working 5 years or more?
Have you known an escort who remains popular more than 5 years?

Most of us is lucky to get 1 or 2 clients daily. Some even do not have a client in one week.

Yes, there are few of us who have 4-5 clients every day..but how many can do that especially in this competitive market?


I am extremely lucky so far in this industry at the moment ( let's emphasize AT THE MOMENT here)
How many years to go do you think i will earn this kind of income?
I believe it will be only for a very..very short period of time...And it scares me because i simply cannot afford to be retired in the near future.
Do you think i will be successful in other business field after all these years being an escort?
Most probably not!

That's the fact!!

I still think many expenses must be incurred and are a result of many businesses. A carpenter must advertise or else it will not be known that he or she is in this business (expect by word of mouth). He must also purchase the necessary equipment. Power drills can be quite expensive along with many other parts. I think about 50% (based on a total of 30 escorts) of t-girls make good money, based on just guessing. Other than you and Lucy I know there are quite a few others. At least many like to flaunt their success (whether it is true or not I am unsure). The only point I can truly agree with is the long-run. This can only be sustained for so long and you have nothing to fall back on. That is when expenses catch up to you, but meanwhile in the short run they can perform well in the market by my personal beliefs. Of course this is my own opinion with no facts or proof. Take it as it is.

[Foreskinned]

Looks like 100 to 150 is favored and the second runner up being 150 - 200. So you should be negotiating in the range in my opinion. Like I said, it is what the two of you come up with to enjoy each others company, in other words mutually agreed upon. Some girls will ask how much your looking to spend then adjust the time accordingly.

[aguyoutthere1]

I love this topic mainly because I like money. LOL. Don't forget that many girls also work at the clubs, do webcam shows etc. Some money is made there. I suspect that like any business, the ones that are good will make a great living and can even retire on what they make if they save accordingly. They may not get rich but if you can retire in your early forties, you've done well. Of course you will always have new younger girls charging less but that is the nature of business, competition is healthy and should keep everyone service oriented, for whatever the agreed price. What I find amazing, is that after about 6 years of being around this scene, some of the girls are still doing it, in spite of incredibly bad service, consistent bad reviews and just bad attitudes. What this tells me is that these girls are relying on their ads to drum up new business as they don't get too much repeat business. Has anyone seen "Barbie Swallows" or Mia Coxxx more than once? Probably not. Bad service and/or bad attitude. There is obviously alot of new clients that are curious and they still get enough money to stay in business. Lucy B. seems to do very well, so does Tia and I think when she wants to Lisa Paradise does really well. I'm sure there are others but I wouldn't say half of the girls do really well. I'd say less than 10 as a guess. But for the ones that do well and provide a great service, they can work from home, only actually work 4 hours a day on a good day, be selective about clients, pay very little tax, have almost no travel expenses and, if they actually like alot of sex, get that too. (I doubt they always like sex 4 times a day). It can be very lucrative for girls that really want to strive to be good at their job.

So ladies, let's get good at our jobs and give KC some great loving. LOL

KC

[bubblee]

Fuck I'm blown away.

I don't even know why I PAY to host this site for these people.

Fuck I blow myself away.

On one hand, you are definitely getting what you pay for.

On the other hand, you can blow yourself for free!

Admin is definitely onto something...

[Admin007]

I don't even know what to do with this place

You guys and girls are SO MEAN I can't even

ARGGGgHHH

[BlueJack]

[lp]

[quote=admin;121286]Lisa just said she does like 2 clients a month ....maybe they are paying like $5000 each time! She is obviously pretty smart. Hey im not smart and to be completely honest i work maybe 2 or 3 times a week when im horny and i wont work if im not,i dont have alot of money i dont shop at the expensive places i do not like expensive things i love my thrift stores and i havent met a vallu-village i didnt like.i have no money in the bank and i live week by week.i know im gonna hurt some feelings in here so what thats life my feelings get hurt as well the only differece is i dont hold grudges like others do the trouble is too many people really beleive in some of the bullshit they read in here and im just as badd if i feel like the forum is getting alittle boring then ill take the initiative to say something controversial just to add so life around here meanwhile im sitting on this end laughing my ass off at some of the comments i get back lol and you people get so angry and passianate i luv it.

[toban]

Just to add a bit to BlueJack's estimates posted below:

TG girls might be able to gross 10% or more over all, than their GG colleagues, since they don't lose several days a month because of menstruation.

[lp]

Just to add a bit to BlueJack's estimates posted below:

TG girls might be able to gross 10% or more over all, than their GG colleagues, since they don't lose several days a month because of menstruation.

hmm on the other hand the ggs may make 10 percent more cause they only have to buy lube 3 outta 4 weeks lol just a thought

[Admin007]

Well I'll just delete my stuff because I don't want to be MEAN to the MEANIES and most guys here don't even care if girls are mean.

[little_guy]

I think what we are seeing is that guys are willing to pay and feel comfterble paying about $150 hr or up to $200 on the high end.

The t-girls charging more seem to be pricing themselves out and not getting clients. As Tia said she is lucky to get one call a day. If they lower the price the might get more calls.

I guess whats better charge $250 to $350 an hr like some gorls are doing and not getting any calls and no money. Or try charging $150 hr and seeing two guys a day at least you will be making money.

As for Tia's statement being a t-girl is expensive. You are a t-girl and choose to live that life. Which I think is great and I do support. But you would live the same way and have the same expences if you were an escort or not.

I do have a budget and can only spend so much. So when I think of seeing a t-girl and the price is to high I just don't go.

Just my two cents and opinions. By the way if you tgirls see a guy you like and you had fun you should offer to lower your price if he revisits. I'm told all the time to come back it was fun and if I was offered a discout to be a regulaur I would go back.

[Andrew69]

Ya man that why I said nurses lol....you are right, good post.....but I guess they get protection lol.

Or hows this look?

Sexworks, many are exposed to infection diseases, some are airbore, some also work with HIV + clients

Certainly nurses working in a regulated environment with safety, health and quality controls standards. Unfortunately as recent shows/exposes on the CBC have shown those standards are routinely ignored putting both health worker and patient at risk....but that is another story.

This is an interesting discussion and one that needs to be respectful of both sides while honestly discussing the various factors/issues involved.

[Andrew69]

that's right

On top of it:
How many nurses have been killed so far by their clients...compared to sex workers. Not long ago, one tgirl escort was killed by his client. Nobody has found the killer. 2 years back, some female sex workers were killed in Vancouver. Not to mention being harrassed, raped, robed. How much money do you think an escort has to charge for sacrificing her life..?? $100?

Losing a life is a terrible thing and not something to be undermined. At the same time we can compare hourly pay of different professions who risk and lose their life as a result of their jobs.

Here is a list of the top 10 most dangerous jobs. This list was compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics in the U.S. and is used by Life Insurance companies when calculating risk in order to determine a life insurance rate. I do not believe that any of these professions receive a pay greater than $100 per hour.

0 Most Dangerous jobs by Fatality Rate:

Rank Occupation Death Rate / 100,000 Total Deaths 1

Logging Workers

92.4 85 2

Aircraft Pilots

92.4 109 3

Fisherman and Fishing Workers

86.4 38 4

Structural Iron and Steel Workers

47.0 31 5

Refuse and Recyclable material Collectors

43.2 35 6

Farmers and Ranchers

37.5 307 7

Roofers

34.9 94 8

Electrical Power Line Installers/ Repairers

30.0 36 9

Driver/Sales Workers and Truck Drivers

27.6 905 10

Taxi Drivers and Chauffeurs

24.2

Therefore, some escorts charge $250 or 300 an hour..
It's simply because those clients who can afford that money are (in most case) much better off in term of hygiene and attitude compared to those who pay, let say, $80.

So, the price speaks by itself..it's kind of barrier or protection for an escort as well.

Interesting point, elitist but interesting.

Middle class and upper class clients not only pay the escort more, but they also respect us more.

Without getting into a discussion about how western society wrongly classifies castes (to borrow from the Hindus) based on money and not breeding, is it really true that those who make more respect SP's more?

Without disclosing my personal income, I earn well above the nation average and on the higher end of national incomes. I find my colleagues to be some of the biggest a**holes in the world with little to no respect of SP's and most other humans period. They view people in the world as commodities that can be bought and sold at their leisure and discretion. Perhaps I just work in an industry of a**holes.

Here is the quote from Valarie Scott, a Canadian sex worker activist: "most of these guys ( middle/upper class clients) are 99% good people. They can be a father or brother of somebody, guy who works in the bank, a guy who lives across the street ...just a regular, good man.."

Again we seem to be feeding into the stereotype that if someone earns more they are a better person and more likely to be trusted. Perhaps it is my liberal side but that idea offends me (not you asian phoenix or Valerie, simply the idea).

If my post is offensive I apologize. I just wanted to bring some comparison of incomes and meaningful discussion to the table. It is not my intention to belittle SP's or suggest that we don't all value them greatly

[Tia Phoenixx]

thanks for the info !

thanks for your willingness to post your findings and your thoughts Andrew!

You have the points here and there..and i speak due to my personal experience..and my experience can be right or wrong...

Nevertheless, i did apologize for mentioning different classes.
I totally believe that we have good guys every where .in every class..race..

Tia

[Tia Phoenixx]

I think what we are seeing is that guys are willing to pay and feel comfterble paying about $150 hr or up to $200 on the high end.

The t-girls charging more seem to be pricing themselves out and not getting clients. As Tia said she is lucky to get one call a day. If they lower the price the might get more calls.

I guess whats better charge $250 to $350 an hr like some gorls are doing and not getting any calls and no money. Or try charging $150 hr and seeing two guys a day at least you will be making money.

As for Tia's statement being a t-girl is expensive. You are a t-girl and choose to live that life. Which I think is great and I do support. But you would live the same way and have the same expences if you were an escort or not.

I do have a budget and can only spend so much. So when I think of seeing a t-girl and the price is to high I just don't go.

Just my two cents and opinions. By the way if you tgirls see a guy you like and you had fun you should offer to lower your price if he revisits. I'm told all the time to come back it was fun and if I was offered a discout to be a regulaur I would go back.

thanks for the input little guy!

I did not mention how many guys i have in a day, didn't I?

I personally think, we have to work part time if we only see one client (or less) in a day!

However, even 1 client a day is good enough..we can save enough money to go back to school (for those (escorts) who are planning to go back to school or slowly but sure...we can save up the money and open a new business).

So, if you happen in this situation, it is better to set a schedule : for instance available between 6-10 pm only during weekdays, weekend 10am till late. The rest of the time we can fill up with more positive things (outside this cold..lonely profession).

Escorting is somehow similar to entertainment industry.
One beautiful tgirl comes to Toronto, and she thinks she can make a lot of money...can be compared to one beautiful actress comes to hollywood and she thinks she can be as famous as Angelina Jolie.

There are lots of aspects besides beautiful face and body to become successful.
Do you think a client is willing to pay $5000 for a day just because you are gorgeous and sexy.. .(but with full of attitude, and no brain..?)
How about your charm and sensuality?
Your ability to cope with different "scenario" and situation?
Can you fulfill various clients' needs and wants..??
Are you comfortable meeting someone who has, let say MBA degree from Harvard Business School?
If your answer is Yes..do you think your client (The Harvard man) will be happy to spend one day and donate $5000 with a girl like you? (Only you can answer this..)

I personally will get bored within 30 minutes (usually after sex hi..hi..) with a gorgeous guy but no brain, arrogant, and full of attitude. But again...it's only me..some guys (clients) might not care at all about this kind of things...
For them..just sex..sex..and sex...and for them yes we have whore..whore..whore in Toronto...

So, do you want to be a whore or escort..?? Your choice..
Whore is selling sex..escort is selling companionship..