Has the escort industry reached a new low??

[Hoodho]

Screaming buzzwords like APPALLING and thinking people don't know what they are talking about is terrible. I honestly find it appalling that you are using the plight of the suffering to somehow support you ridiculous position that well earning escorts are being abused by asking to pay for their online ads.

i never said anything like that but once again twisting my words around as usual. Are you not able to read what i actually say without finding the urge to twist it around. I never said anyone was abused to pay for an ad. I also have mentioned this post has NOTHING to do with escorts who are already veterans in the game!

[QUOTE=justvisiting2016;n1158713

the truly suffering and the 20 dollar street workers you reference, are not listnig on ShemaleCanada and are thus, not being exploited by having to pay for marketing costs. Nor would they be online if the marketing was free.[/QUOTE]

I never said anyone was being exploited by paying for an escort advertisement. The twenty dollar street workers aren't listing on sites? Ummm yes they were until they clearly couldn't afford to now.

[QUOTE=justvisiting2016;n1158713
If you think I am horrible for pointing out your BS, please do. We can just ignore each other. But I honestly think you are a good person and care; you are just getting upset at the wrong things. Working on the plight of abused and suffering trans women is a much different issue and has no connection to financially successful escorts being asked to pay for their online advertising and websites. Which is why i called you out in the first place.[/QUOTE]


No i think you are horrible for twisting around my words. Calling me a liar when you don't even know me or my character. Denying the legitimacy of conversations I've had with other providers because it didn't fit your "vision" of what you think the truth is.

summary, I was not attacking the suffering and abused; i was criticizing a thread that opened saying that asking escorts who are 300+ per hour (the ones on SMC) to pay for ads is somehow a new low for the industry. It isn't a low. Its a business.

I won't engage you again if that will make you feel better. If you notice my posting history, for the most part I am highly supportive of escorts, trans women, and am even in support of the current pricing due to my understanding of costs to present what the clients expect. however, BS is BS and sometimes it gets called out.

I didn't even mention SMC specifically. There are multiple other escort sites charging just to post when most were free back in the day. Nor did i say 300 dollar escorts paying for advertisement is a new low. I was very specific about the type of transwomen the new status quo affects.

[Hoodho]

Hmmmm, welp we live in a time when escorts complain about paying for ads. We live in a time where Truck complains about paying 300 hr to see a CD. It’s a crazy world we live in.

I say advertise on Snapchat IG Facebook TikTok and Twitter. That’s all the free advertising you’ll ever need.

Actually this forum is all the platform you need.
Use it to create a good client base. Offer discounts for early bird clients. Half price before 11am.

Visit 4 times get the fifth time free.

Free session on your birthday after visiting 5 times?

You can be creative with your regular guys. 400hr is way too much. Peace.

Maybe the cd escorts are charging high because they have to pay high fees to post? Maybe the cd you wanted to see would of been cheaper if she didn't have to pay for a 100$ ad?

[truck]

Maybe the cd escorts are charging high because they have to pay high fees to post? Maybe the cd you wanted to see would have hy us been cheaper if she didn't have to pay for a 100$ ad?

Why are any of you paying for ads? I just listed social sites you can use for free including this one. I get it, not everyone is on the social sites. But there are creative ways to advertise without paying.

Im not sure why most girls haven’t used this forum more to promote. They do it on the female escort forums.

[Locomotion]

This whole thread is insane 😂😂😂

[luckydawg80]

No i think you are horrible for twisting around my words. Calling me a liar when you don't even know me or my character.

You are a nameless, faceless nobody. one of MANY on here. who indulge in transexuals and clearly don't give an F about the plights they face... "selling themselves to strangers" funny words coming from the stranger these transexuals are selling themselves to. nothing wrong with sex work but it's so ironic how tricks like you try to look down on it despite being number 1 customers. the absolute AUDACITY.

no you just complain about the girls prices on the tgirlforums and use that as justification for why new struggling transwomen in the industry don't deserve empathy. lol

Ironic that you think people are horrible for not knowing you or your character, but you consistently make those judgements almost every day on this site.

[cocacola1984]

many sites make money without charging anyone. I believe smc existed for years without charging any of the girls to advertise.

I get the sense that Crag operated SMC as more of a passion project/hobby for something he likes (tgirls), so making money was probably secondary as I'm sure he probably just ate whatever it cost to host the site. His charity could only go on for so long, hence why he no longer has the site.

Not sure why thats hard to grasp.

[cocacola1984]

This whole thread is insane 😂😂😂

She basically started a thread to state her opinion about something and then is SHOCKED that said thread has started a debate.

Some people just like to start shit for the sake of it. I'm going outside to enjoy the sun - lol.

[Ana_Jolie]

I get the sense that Crag operated SMC as more of a passion project/hobby for something he likes (tgirls), so making money was probably secondary as I'm sure he probably just ate whatever it cost to host the site. His charity could only go on for so long, hence why he no longer has the site.

Not sure why thats hard to grasp.

Crag actually profited off the banner ads etc. he personally told me this. It’s actually against the law in North America to profit off the back of prostitution. So a third party making $ off us would be considered a pimp. During which that could of brought him up on very serious criminal charges. That’s why it wasn’t smart to be trying to profit off of the backs of the girls. Crag was extremely generous and it was a labour of love on his part until it just wasn’t worth it anymore. For example the cyber attacks made by Alexis from Vancouver….

[Hoodho]

Ironic that you think people are horrible for not knowing you or your character, but you consistently make those judgements almost every day on this site.

I Don't need to make judgements when most of the clients on this site proudly make post after post stating they have zero empathy or sympathy for the girls because they make money or "over charge". Shame the girls for not looking glammed up when they randomly see them at the grocery store. Blatantly talk down to and belittle any girl on here they disagree with. So yes, I don't need to make a judgement because people like you already state what type of person you are.

[Hoodho]

Why are any of you paying for ads? I just listed social sites you can use for free including this one. I get it, not everyone is on the social sites. But there are creative ways to advertise without paying.

Im not sure why most girls haven’t used this forum more to promote. They do it on the female escort forums.

Are you kidding me? Lol Theres only a handful of people on this forum i would entertain. You are one of the good ones. But the rest?The overwhelming majority Make me sick to my stomach due to how they dehumanize and belittle the girls. I would never! I know exactly why most don't use these forums cause it's a circle jerk of misogyny.

[luckydawg80]

I Don't need to make judgements when most of the clients on this site proudly make post after post stating they have zero empathy or sympathy for the girls because they make money or "over charge". Shame the girls for not looking glammed up when they randomly see them at the grocery store. Blatantly talk down to and belittle any girl on here they disagree with. So yes, I don't need to make a judgement because people like you already state what type of person you are.

Why don't you look through all my posts and give me one example where I showed "zero empathy" or "belittle" someone before making those accusations.

[Shank M All]

I couldn't help but notice online advertisement for escorting apparently requires payment now?
there was a time when this industry was about the young transwomen coming up who needed to fund their transition, put food on the table or escape an abusive home or rise out of homelessness. This industry was a way for them to quickly do that. Has the industry become so soul less that you essentially have to pay from $50 to $100 just to advertise? This completely alienates many young transwomen from even having a shot at just entering the industry.

First. Nothing in life is truly free. Everything comes with a cost. Inevitable reality. I understand your points about individuals who struggle, many do not with those rates.

"Has the industry become so soul less that you essentially have to pay from $50 to $100 just to advertise?"

I have a question for you Ms. Ho. Has the industry become so soul less that you essentially have to pay $100 (not $50), just to have a lovely lady shoot baby batter on your face? I ask you! What has this industry come to? My God woman!

[truck]

Are you kidding me? Lol Theres only a handful of people on this forum i would entertain. You are one of the good ones. But the rest?The overwhelming majority Make me sick to my stomach due to how they dehumanize and belittle the girls. I would never! I know exactly why most don't use these forums cause it's a circle jerk of misogyny.

Ok I get that

[Hoodho]

First. Nothing in life is truly free. Everything comes with a cost. Inevitable reality. I understand your points about individuals who struggle, many do not with those rates.

"Has the industry become so soul less that you essentially have to pay from $50 to $100 just to advertise?"

I have a question for you Ms. Ho. Has the industry become so soul less that you essentially have to pay $100 (not $50), just to have a lovely lady shoot baby batter on your face? I ask you! What has this industry come to? My God woman!

Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣

[Hoodho]

Why don't you look through all my posts and give me one example where I showed "zero empathy" or "belittle" someone before making those accusations.

Ummm You have shown that in this very thread!