Do you think passable transwomen are prettier than non passable transwomen

[kai_says_hi]

Ahh this is an interesting subject and good read. Interesting to hear the differences in perspective over a highly subjective term. Bonus points for someone bringing up Gynephilia (attraction to femininity regardless of gender)

At a high level I'd say being 'passable' correlates with being more attractive but it doesn't cause attractiveness, and there are many outlier examples on both sides.

Since passable is so subjective to the eye of the beholder it's kind of hard to equate it to attractiveness at all. Men can like vastly different types of women. The breadth of face shapes alone out there makes it hard to nail down what's attractive and which shape(s) are the standard of passability.

Speaking just from personal experience living in downtown Toronto where it is generally quite safe, passing rarely crosses my mind. I don't expect to pass, it just doesn't matter. If you think I'm attractive what else is there really. I'd rather be told you like my legs than you think I pass.
Passability as a goal seems like it has two main reasons
1. To stealth in spaces where you don't feel safe
2. To placate men's insecurity about their trans attraction

This outlook isn't going to stop me from wanting to get feminization surgeries to better 'pass', but I still think after all is said people will know I'm trans and that's okay 😁

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Kind of a tangent here, but since people were talking about sexual orientation as it pertains to trans attraction - I find it funny that often enough people on dating sites will tell me they are straight as though I wasn't expecting that. Being straight seems like par for the course to me, but maybe gynesexual is a better term if we want to nitpick about genitals. Either way, I find far fewer men identifying as bisexual/pansexual seem interested and no gay men will look my way for long. Many gay men seem downright confused still about what trans is and can't distinguish it well from drag queens.

[Hoodho]

Ahh this is an interesting subject and good read. Interesting to hear the differences in perspective over a highly subjective term. Bonus points for someone bringing up Gynephilia (attraction to femininity regardless of gender)

At a high level I'd say being 'passable' correlates with being more attractive but it doesn't cause attractiveness, and there are many outlier examples on both sides.

Since passable is so subjective to the eye of the beholder it's kind of hard to equate it to attractiveness at all. Men can like vastly different types of women. The breadth of face shapes alone out there makes it hard to nail down what's attractive and which shape(s) are the standard of passability.

Speaking just from personal experience living in downtown Toronto where it is generally quite safe, passing rarely crosses my mind. I don't expect to pass, it just doesn't matter. If you think I'm attractive what else is there really. I'd rather be told you like my legs than you think I pass.
Passability as a goal seems like it has two main reasons
1. To stealth in spaces where you don't feel safe
2. To placate men's insecurity about their trans attraction

This outlook isn't going to stop me from wanting to get feminization surgeries to better 'pass', but I still think after all is said people will know I'm trans and that's okay 😁

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Kind of a tangent here, but since people were talking about sexual orientation as it pertains to trans attraction. I find it funny that often enough people on dating sites will tell me they are straight as though I wasn't expecting that. Being straight seems like par for the course to me, but maybe gynesexual is a better term if we want to nitpick about genitals. Either way, I find far fewer men identifying as bisexual/pansexual seem interested and no gay men will look my way for long. Many gay men seem downright confused still about what trans is and can't distinguish it well from drag queens.

In 2024 passability isn't even a requirement to be honest. Trans people are far more integrated in society than they were in let's say the 80s where transwomen often times met acts of violence just for existing.

[missjessica]

As a trans woman, I do prefer other passable folk.

[Northfit1000]

I have been with passable, and a cd who was cute and feminine looking but not passable and I found her very attractive to. I have watched many porn scenes with crossdressers who were very sexy, cute and feminine but not passable and I really enjoy watching them. I definitely find both attractive!