Bullying on the forum

[konabuds]

Lets make this plain and simple. Does it really matter to you girls who does what, who see who? What should really amtter to each and everyone of you is the review YOU get personally. That review is going to make US possibly more interested in visiting you.

I honestly don't care how many views this girl had on her website, i care about the personality, the reviews, does she top/ does she bottom, does she get it up, does she cum.

Would all the other men out there agree or disagree?

I want to know that when i go and see a girl that i have a great time, i feel safe, not worried that she is a loose cannon and may beat me, blow my head off etc.

There sunshine, i gave my opinion in plain and sinple terms this time that everyone should be able to understand.

kona

[chantel]

Hi ,visitors to a site doesn"t really mean anything in terms of buisness unless you have a pay site and they sign up. if you have 2,000 visitors or 400 in a day how mny pple in a day can you really see if a certain percentage did call for your services, so in terms of buisness i really believe it would have little impact ,just my thoughts xoxoxo

[tslisaparadise]

Hi ,visitors to a site doesn"t really mean anything in terms of buisness unless you have a pay site and they sign up. if you have 2,000 visitors or 400 in a day how mny pple in a day can you really see if a certain percentage did call for your services, so in terms of buisness i really believe it would have little impact ,just my thoughts xoxoxo

now that makes too much sence there sister.good post

[Tia Phoenixx]

tia your pathetic,lucy pours her heart out and you react like that tragic

Is that the reason why I've got warning and deducted point?

Fair enough. yes, i was too hard a little at the time, but i was sorry seconds after I wrote that comment.

bottom line is, what i wanted to say before is: when we are sorry, we have to be genuinely sorry, and put aside our arrogance behind.

Why should even still lie when we apologized, I don't get it?

Ok, I don't want to discuss about website and popularity anymore, since that was not my intention at the beginning.

Enjoy the day...its' surprisingly sunny today

and btw, there is no competition here.
I'm not a local girl anymore...

[konabuds]

Ok, lets try another approach, sitting here looking at the following threads:

"Guys at Goodhandy's Night Club won't Approach Us T-Girls to Say Hello...WTF", "porn Movie of gia (a.k.a Soda) coming in march", "Wow Toronto nothing good left in this town". Then there is this thread to.

So much negativety. Is there that much jealousy, hate amongst all the girls in the Toronto area? Then you sit there and you read about one person making a comment and see a message to the public that he is being docked points, who docks points from the mods?

Why are threads like this even allowed to stay on the board?

Sorry all, but i really believe there is a much parger problem here. For those girls that have talked with me in the past if you want to stay in touch, send me a private message and we can stay in contact via yahoo. I will not be staying in this forum. To much anger, too much resentment and to much hate. There really is more to life then what some of you girls make it out to be.

Bye All

[Tia Phoenixx]

Ok, lets try another approach, sitting here looking at the following threads:

"Guys at Goodhandy's Night Club won't Approach Us T-Girls to Say Hello...WTF", "porn Movie of gia (a.k.a Soda) coming in march", "Wow Toronto nothing good left in this town". Then there is this thread to.

So much negativety. Is there that much jealousy, hate amongst all the girls in the Toronto area? Then you sit there and you read about one person making a comment and see a message to the public that he is being docked points, who docks points from the mods?

Why are threads like this even allowed to stay on the board?

Sorry all, but i really believe there is a much parger problem here. For those girls that have talked with me in the past if you want to stay in touch, send me a private message and we can stay in contact via yahoo. I will not be staying in this forum. To much anger, too much resentment and to much hate. There really is more to life then what some of you girls make it out to be.

Bye All

Hasn't this thread caused so much drama in the last 3 days?
http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?t=112702

I usually find Soda's thread very funny and entertaining though.
why you don't like her recent thread about her being Gia?

[Justcurious34]

Is that the reason why I've got warning and deducted point?

Fair enough. yes, i was too hard a little at the time, but i was sorry seconds after I wrote that comment.

bottom line is, what i wanted to say before is: when we are sorry, we have to be genuinely sorry, and put aside our arrogance behind.

Why should even still lie when we apologized, I don't get it?

Ok, I don't want to discuss about website and popularity anymore, since that was not my intention at the beginning.

Enjoy the day...its' surprisingly sunny today

and btw, there is no competition here.
I'm not a local girl anymore...

I've got warning and deducted point?

Tia
I cant understand why ,there is no reason any one should lose points or get a warning for anything you wrote

it was just the timing of the comment
no more ,no less

I'm reading about you and your travel, sounds exciting for you
I'm sure the margins are better, and its always great to travel

it depends where ,certain parts of US extremely profitable for sex professionals

I still think South West would be the best, much wealth enjoying idle time, great market

be careful in the mid east countries

certain tribal laws still exist, "no matter what their emails may say " their laws are ridicules to our standards of justice ,I have been there, if the wrong government official gets pissed off (involved ) ,you could need an act of your government to get released

to many structured laws if regulators wish's to enforce on travelers to their countries

and sometimes it makes little sense when they decide to tighten the rules of visitors or examples to citizens

it all depends how they view your passport for starters?

but that was 5 years ago, I for one, felt most uncomfortable in certain areas of several cities.

if you stay in the visitor sections,things should could be ok
hmm, then again Mexico is more dangerous
Duke
I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy.

[sunshine]

a boxing match?

It's obvious that I started this thread for a reason. Now the thread seems to have gone off into this new direction of talking about stats and sites and popularity and reviews. I might add that the debacle of the other day also suffered from this deviation from the initial topic.

Quite some time ago, Tia mentionned that a girl has to get creative in order to expand her market if she wants to be successful. I am paraphrasing here. The number of transsexual escorts has increased while the market's increase has not been equivalent. When a shemale was a novelty, she could ask any price she wanted. Now, it is a different matter because there is alot more competition. In this kind of situation, it seems clear that some will succeed and some will not.

But this is not a forum that is oriented exclusively around the topic of reviews and/or SPs. This is a forum that is focused on transsexuals and their admirers.

When someone posts comments that compare two Tgirls, there is this possible consequence of the post being viewed as an attack. If the escort industry was a boxing match, then this would be the stat comparison that always occurs before a fight. Then the two girls could duke it out and a winner would emerge. There's only one thing - it is NOT a boxing match.

You cannot really compare two people because everybody is different. Everybody has unique traits and EVERYBODY has some good points and some bad. You cannot rely on what other people say about an SP in order to make a selection. It is way too subjective an experience to be able to quantify and objectify it in such a way as to identify the best of the best of the best. You need to do your own homework and take your chance. Some experiences will be great, others will prove to be unsatisfying. Find an SP you like, give her a call and see what happens.

I just wanted to get back to my initial question. If someone has an insecurity, it is likely that they will try to compensate for it by presenting a false image of themselves in that area. So when you see someone who seems arrogant, there is likely an insecurity behind it. If you attack the arrogance, you are attacking something false. In reality, you are attacking an insecurity. What will be the result of attacking an insecurity? Could it be an even greater insecurity? And what will happen to the level of arrogance? It will increase! This is why the cycle of violence cannot be broken with violence. Yet people continue to attack each other. A better approach is to try to find out what is behind a person's statement. Try to open a non-threatening dialogue about that. Maybe you will hit the mark, maybe you will not. At least you will be thinking first and speaking after.

If you read something and you find it offensive, you can have a look at which one of your own insecurities is triggering the visceral reaction. Think about that and, if you respond at all, it will be a response about your own humanity. At any moment, we are free to regain our own humanity and see that the world is not so bad. The only ennemies are ones we project out from within ourselves.

Every person deserves basic respect in my opinion. This is part of the contract between ourselves when we agree to live together. If you go a little further and try to understand people, then things will go even better. As someone said earlier, this is easier said than done. All I was trying to do was to start a conversation about it so we could move a little bit in that direction.

Duke, judging from your responses, you are an amazing person and a real friend of the forum. Many other friends have also spoken up on this thread. It is nice to see that I am not alone.

I'm going to shut up now. I have said way too much.

Sunshine

[Tasha Jones RIP]

Well...would not be me if I did not post my thoughts!

I know, I said I was taking sometime away. I needed to get away from the "Tranny Drama". It has always been like a soap opera with us girls for many reasons. There is always the catty cunts. The girls who play victim. Then there is the girls who sit back and gossip and get everyone involved into a huge fight because of lies and the whole time she just sits back and eats popcorn and watches us make fools of ourselves.

This is why the last 4 days have happened. Everyone of us should really look back over these last 4 days and go and look to the route of this evil and deal with it, in private once and for all. Or we should grow up and see that we are better then this. We have all acted like fools and children!

I moved from Toronto for many reasons. But this fighting was a big part of the reason. You can not work with these girls. You can not be friends with them. You can not try and talk like adults. Most impotent you can not trust 90% of them. There is always more behind why this fighting is happening. Most of the time, it is not even the issue that we are fighting about it is stuff most of you do not know and should not know. But knowing it might make you understand why we are so nasty to each other. Some of it is because of our own issues. But again, this is the Internet and sometimes allot is lost and things are misunderstood.

What I show on the board when in a fight or a moment is 100% not who I am in my ever day life. I am a very normal and calm person, the saying make love not fight comes to mind. But there is something in this board that brings out the nasty in me and I am unable to control myself, I feel the need to defend myself because someone might think those lies are true. I can not explain it and it is a part of myself I truly dislike. But unlike some of the other girls, I am the first one to say I am sorry and I know I was wrong. In life, I feel you can make tons of mistakes because we are human but if you can not admit those mistakes and show you regret them then you have bigger issues in your life you need to work on.

Reading this thread, again, has upset me to the point I almost posted many times. But, I walked away from the computer and this site. That is not fair or who I am. I always like to post my comments on things that interest me and I should be able to do that without worrying I might say something that no matter how I word it will start anther war. It is like walking on eggshells. Again, I am not that type of person. I am honest & I say what I feel. It is not always right, but it is being true to myself and that is all that matters.

But, reading this again today I said "Fuck It". This thread that Sunshine started that made so much since and was from her heart and showed me the way I acted was wrong. This thread could have really made an impact on who we act. But, this has turned into just anther Tranny thread about "who is the biggest cock" and it has to stop. Things need to change! I also think I need to explain alittle bit why this all started in the first place! Maybe I am wrong on that thinking, I am not sure. If I am, I am sorry. Admin, if you do not like this part, remove it not my whole post please.

I called Soda last night and I made an attempt to get to the bottom of why this all started. If you look back, you will see that Soda was the first person to post something nasty about me and that is what started this whole war. I am not saying it is all her fault, she did not look at the dates on the post she was posting about and she was told lies about me. This caused her to feel the need to defend herself, when in fact, I have no issue with her. So many lies and untruths about me, it is shocking that some of these girls have that much time on there hands. Anyone who knows me knows I am an open book. Have you not seen my blog? I always say way to much about my life. So now I see that as being a good thing because it truly shows who I am as a person!

I know who got her started and I know why. Which lead to that person jumping on the band wagon and putting her insults in there as well. It gave her an opening to attack me without looking like she was the one to start this whole thing. Why she feels the need to act this way or bring other people into her sick little mind, who knows, who cares!

Then people tried to defend me. People who really know me, they were then attacked. Sent nasty emails. Then I felt the need to protect them, which started me up again. It has been a puppet show and we have all played our parts and the person holding the strings is the one having the fun. But, the problem with that game is it always comes to an end. People start to wise up that they have been played for a fool and see, wait, now that I take emotions out of this, this makes no since!

There has been ONE person behind all this & started this. One person who is having a little power trip. One person who should be acting in the best interest of this board, and all is she doing is doing damage, stress and pain to everyone that has been involved. See for her she can work this so she looks like the victim and she did nothing wrong, while the rest of us look like nasty bitches and people will remember the words that were said and it will impact our life in many ways. But I am here and now taking that power from her. Because really it is us girls who should have known better then to play this game. We should have called each other and tried to see what the issue is. We do not have to all like each other but we should show some respect to each other. But when you see an opening to insult someone or take a jab because you still have issues with that person new or old. That is why so many girls got involved in this whole mess, they saw a chance to hurt each other with out being the one to take the fall for starting it.

This is not right on any of our parts and with just this thread alone the Tia/Lucy war started up all over again. Members are seeing us girls as sick twisted mental cases. There should be no reason for this. We are adults and it does not matter who is taking what pill or who lost there dog and was mistreated as a child. Or who gets more hits to there free website, who fucking cares! We should learn to respect ourselves enough to keep our personal dislike for each other out of public eye. Away from the clients who should only see us as sexy Lady's not backstabbing cunts!

Again, I am sorry that I allowed this back stabbing bitch to get under my skin. I am sorry that I felt the need to defend myself to her accusations. Because really, the people who matter to me already know that I would never do what is being said I did. I have made a mistake with being part of all of this and I am sorry that I have come off as the bitch that she set out to make me look like.

I think that this should be looked at as a starting tool to change what is allowed on this board. I think that one mod needs to be shown that this abuse of power is not allowed on this board any longer. You hold that title of Mod. You act like a Mod. Your personal feelings do not come into play because if not no one is going to change or start respecting this board as a place to feel safe to express ourselves or clients feel safe asking questions. If a change is not made the very people who make this board will start to just walk away.

Let me be clear so I do not start anther war. I am not telling anyone how to run there business. I am not above punishment for my actions over the last 4 days. I am just saying that the same rules should apply for all and when a mod breaks those rules she should be dealt with like any other member on this board. When lines are crossed, as in threats, posting personal messages and abuse of her power! If she is not dealt with no one will respect the term Mod. Is this personal for me, hell yes. All those things she has done to me over the last 4 days. But, I will agree it is in part my own fault for playing along. So in that since, I opened the door for her to do it and in return I did it back to her, so we are both 100% at fault. But, emailing members nasty emails and giving out warnings whenever she is in the mood to. It sends out the wrong message!

Thank you for letting me vent and I do hope some of you that have emailed me and explained that I should just walk away from this situation see that, I have listened, and I am now doing just that. better late then never. Your right I am better then this and I have allowed myself, my reputation to be put on the line for someone else's games. This will NOT happen again.

Ladies, lets kiss and make up and move on with our lives! Or at least start respecting ourselves enough to stop acting like this in public. As I said, I spoke to Soda, it was a very nice chat. I grabbed my balls, picked up the phone and reached out to end this. She at first was ready to fight, but when she heard I was not calling to fight but rather try and deal with this like ladies, it went very well! I think or I hope she understands me better and knows that most of what she knows is just gossip and very much untrue! She has never in her life meet me in person. Like Barbie/Lucy. I went up and hugged them and treated them with respect. That is who I am in person. That is who I wished I was when fighting on this forum. I am hoping I have learnt from this and I will learn to be that person on here.

Tasha

[can_tran_fan]

Boy, it is a good thing you girls are so hot and sexually satisfying, because if you were relying on the personalities you present here on the forum, you'd be fishing pennies out of the fountains.

A nice message from Sunshine basically stating "can't we all just get along" turns into this pissing match?

Wow!

[tslisaparadise]

[QUOTE=duke;228492]I've got warning and deducted point?

Tia
I cant understand why ,there is no reason any one should lose points or get a warning for anything you wrote

it was just the timing of the comment
no more ,no less

the fact is she got docked points because she could have started another bitch fest and had every oppotunitty to erase it and didnt if you have a problem with that too bad

[tslisaparadise]

I know, I said I was taking sometime away. I needed to get away from the "Tranny Drama". It has always been like a soap opera with us girls for many reasons. There is always the catty cunts. The girls who play victim. Then there is the girls who sit back and gossip and get everyone involved into a huge fight because of lies and the whole time she just sits back and eats popcorn and watches us make fools of ourselves.

This is why the last 4 days have happened. Everyone of us should really look back over these last 4 days and go and look to the route of this evil and deal with it, in private once and for all. Or we should grow up and see that we are better then this. We have all acted like fools and children!

I moved from Toronto for many reasons. But this fighting was a big part of the reason. You can not work with these girls. You can not be friends with them. You can not try and talk like adults. Most impotent you can not trust 90% of them. There is always more behind why this fighting is happening. Most of the time, it is not even the issue that we are fighting about it is stuff most of you do not know and should not know. But knowing it might make you understand why we are so nasty to each other. Some of it is because of our own issues. But again, this is the Internet and sometimes allot is lost and things are misunderstood.

What I show on the board when in a fight or a moment is 100% not who I am in my ever day life. I am a very normal and calm person, the saying make love not fight comes to mind. But there is something in this board that brings out the nasty in me and I am unable to control myself, I feel the need to defend myself because someone might think those lies are true. I can not explain it and it is a part of myself I truly dislike. But unlike some of the other girls, I am the first one to say I am sorry and I know I was wrong. In life, I feel you can make tons of mistakes because we are human but if you can not admit those mistakes and show you regret them then you have bigger issues in your life you need to work on.

Reading this thread, again, has upset me to the point I almost posted many times. But, I walked away from the computer and this site. That is not fair or who I am. I always like to post my comments on things that interest me and I should be able to do that without worrying I might say something that no matter how I word it will start anther war. It is like walking on eggshells. Again, I am not that type of person. I am honest & I say what I feel. It is not always right, but it is being true to myself and that is all that matters.

But, reading this again today I said "Fuck It". This thread that Sunshine started that made so much since and was from her heart and showed me the way I acted was wrong. This thread could have really made an impact on who we act. But, this has turned into just anther Tranny thread about "who is the biggest cock" and it has to stop. Things need to change! I also think I need to explain alittle bit why this all started in the first place! Maybe I am wrong on that thinking, I am not sure. If I am, I am sorry. Admin, if you do not like this part, remove it not my whole post please.

I called Soda last night and I made an attempt to get to the bottom of why this all started. If you look back, you will see that Soda was the first person to post something nasty about me and that is what started this whole war. I am not saying it is all her fault, she did not look at the dates on the post she was posting about and she was told lies about me. This caused her to feel the need to defend herself, when in fact, I have no issue with her. So many lies and untruths about me, it is shocking that some of these girls have that much time on there hands. Anyone who knows me knows I am an open book. Have you not seen my blog? I always say way to much about my life. So now I see that as being a good thing because it truly shows who I am as a person!

I know who got her started and I know why. Which lead to that person jumping on the band wagon and putting her insults in there as well. It gave her an opening to attack me without looking like she was the one to start this whole thing. Why she feels the need to act this way or bring other people into her sick little mind, who knows, who cares!

Then people tried to defend me. People who really know me, they were then attacked. Sent nasty emails. Then I felt the need to protect them, which started me up again. It has been a puppet show and we have all played our parts and the person holding the strings is the one having the fun. But, the problem with that game is it always comes to an end. People start to wise up that they have been played for a fool and see, wait, now that I take emotions out of this, this makes no since!

There has been ONE person behind all this & started this. One person who is having a little power trip. One person who should be acting in the best interest of this board, and all is she doing is doing damage, stress and pain to everyone that has been involved. See for her she can work this so she looks like the victim and she did nothing wrong, while the rest of us look like nasty bitches and people will remember the words that were said and it will impact our life in many ways. But I am here and now taking that power from her. Because really it is us girls who should have known better then to play this game. We should have called each other and tried to see what the issue is. We do not have to all like each other but we should show some respect to each other. But when you see an opening to insult someone or take a jab because you still have issues with that person new or old. That is why so many girls got involved in this whole mess, they saw a chance to hurt each other with out being the one to take the fall for starting it.

This is not right on any of our parts and with just this thread alone the Tia/Lucy war started up all over again. Members are seeing us girls as sick twisted mental cases. There should be no reason for this. We are adults and it does not matter who is taking what pill or who lost there dog and was mistreated as a child. Or who gets more hits to there free website, who fucking cares! We should learn to respect ourselves enough to keep our personal dislike for each other out of public eye. Away from the clients who should only see us as sexy Lady's not backstabbing cunts!

Again, I am sorry that I allowed this back stabbing bitch to get under my skin. I am sorry that I felt the need to defend myself to her accusations. Because really, the people who matter to me already know that I would never do what is being said I did. I have made a mistake with being part of all of this and I am sorry that I have come off as the bitch that she set out to make me look like.

I think that this should be looked at as a starting tool to change what is allowed on this board. I think that one mod needs to be shown that this abuse of power is not allowed on this board any longer. You hold that title of Mod. You act like a Mod. Your personal feelings do not come into play because if not no one is going to change or start respecting this board as a place to feel safe to express ourselves or clients feel safe asking questions. If a change is not made the very people who make this board will start to just walk away.

Let me be clear so I do not start anther war. I am not telling anyone how to run there business. I am not above punishment for my actions over the last 4 days. I am just saying that the same rules should apply for all and when a mod breaks those rules she should be dealt with like any other member on this board. When lines are crossed, as in threats, posting personal messages and abuse of her power! If she is not dealt with no one will respect the term Mod. Is this personal for me, hell yes. All those things she has done to me over the last 4 days. But, I will agree it is in part my own fault for playing along. So in that since, I opened the door for her to do it and in return I did it back to her, so we are both 100% at fault. But, emailing members nasty emails and giving out warnings whenever she is in the mood to. It sends out the wrong message!

Thank you for letting me vent and I do hope some of you that have emailed me and explained that I should just walk away from this situation see that, I have listened, and I am now doing just that. better late then never. Your right I am better then this and I have allowed myself, my reputation to be put on the line for someone else's games. This will NOT happen again.

Ladies, lets kiss and make up and move on with our lives! Or at least start respecting ourselves enough to stop acting like this in public. As I said, I spoke to Soda, it was a very nice chat. I grabbed my balls, picked up the phone and reached out to end this. She at first was ready to fight, but when she heard I was not calling to fight but rather try and deal with this like ladies, it went very well! I think or I hope she understands me better and knows that most of what she knows is just gossip and very much untrue! She has never in her life meet me in person. Like Barbie/Lucy. I went up and hugged them and treated them with respect. That is who I am in person. That is who I wished I was when fighting on this forum. I am hoping I have learnt from this and I will learn to be that person on here.

Tasha

we all know what happened the fact is you wont be threatening anybody anymore and expect to get away with it period,i have no abuse of power i dock points to those who start crap as the rules show i just follow them and remember i get docked points as well im no different,there will always be people who actually believe your bullshit by i am not one of them so get over it.theres only one difference between you and i as mods and that difference is i only use one nickname because when i post i make it cystal clear where the comment is coming from.

[Tasha Jones RIP]

Bla Bla Bla...

and some more bla bla bla from Miss. Good Will herself!
Please look at the picture and try, I know it is hard!
But think about its message, it might help you see how your looking right now!
This is not ALL about you!

[Tasha Jones RIP]

I am loving this pics

I am just going to start using pictures....they say 1000 words better then I could!

[tslisaparadise]

I am just going to start using pictures....they say 1000 words better then I could!

roflmfao,you crazzzzy lol can ya blow the text up damn it