CD's & TV's vs Shemales.

[Alexis]

Interesting thread..

Interesting indeed..

Well if one has to define roles I'd break it down like this..

CD - Cross Dresser
This is an individual who identifies with themselves as their birth sex in society and regular life and chooses to live more than 50% of there time in the role of their birth sex.

TV - Transvestite
This is a male who generally identifies with themselves as a female and prefers to live as a female when ever possible.

TG - Trans Gendered
This is a male or a female that identifies themselves as the opposite of their birth sex. These people often live in their birth sex roles while some do not.

TS - Transsexual
An individual who is living 24/7 in the gender opposite their birth sex.

Shemale
A male by birth sex and generally transgendered and transsexual living 24/7 as a woman and still possessing a penis & testicles.

Within this sexual preferences vary greatly from one person to the next. Some could be gay others not, myself I would be a woman that is primarily gay but prefers men on occasion. It's best not to define too much and be forced to conformity to meet a standard, it's all about being free to be who you truly are in your heart..

I loose lots of clients to the fact that I don't have implants, but what ever, leaves me feeling like most girls with lil boobies I suppose. I like to think that I make up for it tho with the rest of my features, long natural nails, tight lil bum, super toned body and big cock..

Hopefully I'll be in a position to get my boobs done in the near future once I finish some other cosmetic stuff. Since I'm not taking the hormone route it's not as easy but healthier and the path I decided would be best..

[Tia Phoenixx]

couldnt have said it better myself.i was once a cd for over 20 years before i went full time and ya i heard it over and over all the bad names etc and still hear them every once in awhile when i piss somebody off cause im mouthy lol but really we are not the judge and jury over anybodys lives exept our own.

perfect statement. bravo Lisa

It simply means that nobody has the right to control our life, and say something bad things about us because we are different.

As i mentioned in the past, the key principle of this issue is: tolerance .
We have to understand and tolerate those who are different than us, and if they are different..it's NOT necessary bad or worse than us.

So Ana, I love you...please stop the fighting

[Fudgepacker]

I agree wholeheartedly with both you, Fudgepacker and with you, cobbler. Nowhere was this pettiness so visibly demonstrated as it was in the most nasty attack thread I can remember seeing on this forum! It was started just yesterday and 12 pages later, it was locked, then thankfully removed in its entirety this morning.

The two attackers may have legitimately disagreed with the thread's originator about her line of reasoning on pricing, but there was absolutely no justification for their attacks on her person. I consider that to have been the lowest of lows - repugnant!

By raising those personal matters, matters which were totally unrelated to the original issues outlined in the thread, they did the whole transgendered community a great disservice!

I found the thread your referring to as having been deleted to not have been so nasty but more revealing of what the status of the community of transsexual escorts is all about these days and the mind frame of most of them that participated a pretty good window into what they all think on the subject. Balls to the OP whatever her motivation was behind it all. I am surprised it was deleted though. Closed perhaps given it became a pissing contest between two individuals (they should have been dealt with as such) and the thread remained open for discussion.

[Nadia Kox]

It just bothers me when people try and say that being a CD/TV is the same as being transgendered. I see the two groups as having a bit of overlap, but ultimately being two very different groups who face completely different things.

Nothing against them, I just don't want people mixing the two groups up and thinking it's interchangable.

[tslisaparadise]

It just bothers me when people try and say that being a CD/TV is the same as being transgendered. I see the two groups as having a bit of overlap, but ultimately being two very different groups who face completely different things.

Nothing against them, I just don't want people mixing the two groups up and thinking it's interchangable.

the only ones who know what its like being a full time girl is a full time girl, cds have no say in the matter cause they dont walk to walk but its always the cds who start the shit and everyone who has been on any chat site knows that cds know everything but in realitty know nothing,now that doesnt make us better just different.our point of view has and always will be that we look down apon the cds who are working girls its not jelousy but more of a pride or right to passage sorta thing as for the cds who just love to dress well who can blame them being a woman is a beautifull thing if only for a few hours a week all the power to them,i have no hard feelings for anybody who wants to pretend in playland just mind your pees and cues when it comes to us full time girls and we will all get along just fine.

[Alexis]

It just bothers me when people try and say that being a CD/TV is the same as being transgendered. I see the two groups as having a bit of overlap, but ultimately being two very different groups who face completely different things.

Nothing against them, I just don't want people mixing the two groups up and thinking it's interchangeable.

It really bothers me when people classify a CD the same as a Transvestite. The whole "label" thing for people puts everyone into a box of conformity which I find wrong. Personally I identify myself as a transvestite and I was diagnosed by those that make the terms as transgendered when I was 18. Eventually I got sick of being a boy 24/7 for years and now spend most all of my time as a girl..

Yet I still get labeled as a CD a lot cuz I don't have fake boobies..

When people define these labels great care should be taken. Not all transgendered people are male and they certainly do not need to live their lives opposite their birth sex to be transgendered..

CD's also get off on dressing up as well and it's generally something kinky and a sexual turn on for them when they dress up. A TV or TS on the other hand dresses like a female because they identify themselves as female. In most cases TV & TS people are transgendered..

[Nadia Kox]

Ummm . . . Transvestite and Crossdresser are the same thing. It refers to people who enjoy presenting/dressing as the opposite sex.

Being Transgendered means that you don't identify with your birth gender. It's not dressing as the opposite, it's dressing as what your gender is supposed to be. That's the difference. You don't have to live as your actual gender instead of your birth gender to be transgendered.

I think you just have your terminology wrong.

[greep]

[Modulus]

see even greep knows the difference lol

[greep]

Pleeeeaaaaaase,Lisa. I could write a book about you Tgirls and how you guys behave in your natural habitats.

[Clone 0101]

That is very much what I've been saying for many years and it is really fantastic to see today that you feel the same way Lisa!

What really matters is whether the girl creates the desired illusion for the person who chooses to be with her. No girl has ever been born as a shemale except possibly a very few intersexed individuals.

I suspect that almost every shemale today at some point in her life experimented in the beginning by dressing as a female, probably in private, while others chose in the end to go public, and progressed from there to enhance themselves by whatever means were available to them, with financial ability being one of their main impediments.

So because I was the first to cast the stone it makes it ok for her to throw back? When she snarled back that is when she was no longer a victim to the situation. I really could care a less if she is a cross dresser or shemale. I would have called any of these girls by the male counter part etc... It had nothing to do with her status at all. She had a holier than though approach to every rebut and quite frankly it was what provoked me. She kept name dropping and trying to pin her justifications for posting the thread on others when she clearly posted in the subject "I have a problem"... Quit blowing smoke up our asses and be real.

[Clone 0101]

yes i closed that thread it was giving me a headache.personally i try and stay clear of the drama.but the argument was going on and on and it was an attack on both sides. The trans community needs to stick together.cmon ladies we take enough shit from the rest of society.

You closed the thread after it went on all day? No offense or anything Alyssa but just like I said be real to her in my last post I think you should do the same. Dont sit there and try and shame me to these people just because it seems like the right thing to do now.

[tslisaparadise]

Pleeeeaaaaaase,Lisa. I could write a book about you Tgirls and how you guys behave in your natural habitats.

no i could. what makes you an expert? pleaseeeeee you dont know shit about being trans period.

[Hoozier Daddy]

When one is dividing the CD/TV group from the TS/Shemale group I think we all need to be open minded to those who are genuinely looking to make the quantum leap from the first to the latter. Some people are content in staying in the first group while others are searching within themselves to find if they have it within them to make that leap. I claim to be no expert but I imagine that any sort of pushback from the TS group for whatever the reason can cause a great deal of anxiety in someone looking to make the journey from what they are and what they want to become.

Just sayin.

[tslisaparadise]

When one is dividing the CD/TV group from the TS/Shemale group I think we all need to be open minded to those who are genuinely looking to make the quantum leap from the first to the latter. Some people are content in staying in the first group while others are searching within themselves to find if they have it within them to make that leap. I claim to be no expert but I imagine that any sort of pushback from the TS group for whatever the reason can cause a great deal of anxiety in someone looking to make the journey from what they are and what they want to become.

Just sayin.

i disagree, it takes everything and more to go full time and follow your destiny,the mental toughness is something you have to go through to fully understand and if your not 100 per cent committed then you ll lose everything and everyone around you trust me all my sisters know what im talking about.our world is much different from the one we left behind in every sence of the word,being annonamous and fitting in isnt in most of our vocabularies anymore,what once was a life of dullness quickly becomes the centre of attention no matter where we are and what we are doing much like the celebs and the paparazzi we rarely go unoticed anymore,if you can handle that then all the power to ya but if your in doubt then ride the surf baby cause theres no turning back.