Does anybody know what to do when they get robbed by client

[toban]

. . . . . They are both OC sprays. . . . .

I agree with your advice and in reading police reports of such as traffic stops "possession of bear spray" is very frequently mentioned as one of the aggravating substances found along with pot, meth, weapons of other kinds etc.. but please explain what is meant by the sprays being an "OC"??

[Rockheart]

I have a big can of Bear spray for protection in the interior of British Columbia.
As such, I only carry it in my Biking equipment bag.

However the only time i ran into a Bear I had forgotten to bring the spray.

Big assed can tho!

[tommygun]

I agree with your advice and in reading police reports of such as traffic stops "possession of bear spray" is very frequently mentioned as one of the aggravating substances found along with pot, meth, weapons of other kinds etc.. but please explain what is meant by the sprays being an "OC"??

OC is an abbreviation for Oleoresin Capsicum, the primary ingredient in the sprays. Civilians say pepper spray/bear spray, law enforcement say OC spray. It's just a simple terminology thing. Police sprays are more potent than bear sprays, but both are highly effective when used correctly.

[trannymakeout]

Using pepper spray indoors is a bad idea lol. Might as well spray yourself in the face
Gangsters around Metrotown in BC rob micros and girls all the time who don't pay protection tax. This is what happens when prostitution is illegal. Don't you guys lock up or hide your laptops/phones/purses whenever a client comes up?

[toban]

Thank you tommygun, that's good to know but

OC is an abbreviation for Oleoresin Capsicum, the primary ingredient in the sprays. Civilians say pepper spray/bear spray, law enforcement say OC spray. It's just a simple terminology thing. Police sprays are more potent than bear sprays, but both are highly effective when used correctly.

knowing that the pepper plant is source of that heat I should have been able to figure that out!

[Shyla Wild]

Awesome post.

Thank you. I noticed something. You are very informed about the Law, you refer to the public as civilians, and you use the term OC. I am going to take a shot in the dark here.....you are Law Enforcement. If so....wasn't me. And I want my phone call.

Using pepper spray indoors is a bad idea lol. Might as well spray yourself in the face
Gangsters around Metrotown in BC rob micros and girls all the time who don't pay protection tax. This is what happens when prostitution is illegal.

Being illegal or illegal does not protect you from being robbed. In fact, Soda was robbed in Ottawa. Prostitution is legal in Ontario.

Don't you guys lock up or hide your laptops/phones/purses whenever a client comes up?

When travelling a girl should have nothing visible except towels, lube, condoms, latex gloves and baby wipes. Everything else should be put away. Staying at 4+ star hotels usually means there is a safe in the room or at the front desk.

In Montreal, I have a rottweiler. Most effective form of self defense. My money is never in my work room, and is kept in a safe. The safe is in the same room that I keep my rottie when I receive clients. Walking into that room without me....is suicide. The dog is Professionally trained with a kill word. You can ask anyone....he is the nicest most friendly dog. But even clients that I trust have seen what happens if you touch me when he is around. He is HIGHLY protective.

Look at it this way. As a TS, people can get on your nerves. Society can be cruel. I really didn't want to get into heated arguments with people on the street. Walking down the street waving a gun, carrying a knife, carry mace, etc are all illegal. But walking down the street with a Rottweiler, Doberman, Shepard or Pittbull is perfectly legal. And just as effective....people do not say a word to me and I live in peace.

Anything anyone has asked me about self defense I have always suggested a dog. The only weapon that cannot be used against you. And...they are fun to cuddle with, play with and are the only creature on this planet that loves you more then themselves.

[tommygun]

Thank you. I noticed something. You are very informed about the Law, you refer to the public as civilians, and you use the term OC. I am going to take a shot in the dark here.....you are Law Enforcement. If so....wasn't me. And I want my phone call.

Sort of. I have a background in LE and military. Now I am a tactical trainer to cops. Though it's tempting to get back into LE. Great pension and I miss the time off.

Anything anyone has asked me about self defense I have always suggested a dog. The only weapon that cannot be used against you. And...they are fun to cuddle with, play with and are the only creature on this planet that loves you more then themselves.

Provided they are cared for and traine properly. A lot of people buy a dog for protection but neglect it. Eventually the dog just becomes a manhater and draws no distinction between you and the person trying to attack you. As long as people are willing to invest the time, nurturing, and training, I couldn't agree more that a dog is probably the best form of protection. Many criminals rely on the good nature of people when taking advantage of them. A lot of people don't have the stomach to bash your face in with a baton or shoot you with a gun. But no criminal has ever looked into the eyes of a snarling dog and said "you don't have the guts to bite me".

[Shyla Wild]

Sort of. I have a background in LE and military. Now I am a tactical trainer to cops. Though it's tempting to get back into LE. Great pension and I miss the time off.

Oh really? I might have a spot for you on my paintball squad. Tactical Paintball, not speedball.

Provided they are cared for and traine properly. A lot of people buy a dog for protection but neglect it. Eventually the dog just becomes a manhater and draws no distinction between you and the person trying to attack you. As long as people are willing to invest the time, nurturing, and training, I couldn't agree more that a dog is probably the best form of protection. Many criminals rely on the good nature of people when taking advantage of them. A lot of people don't have the stomach to bash your face in with a baton or shoot you with a gun. But no criminal has ever looked into the eyes of a snarling dog and said "you don't have the guts to bite me".

Agreed, mine is a loving animal that when he is not in defence mode he is like a lab. Having a power breed is not an easy task. But when you own a Shepard, Doberman or Rottweiler you must understand that if you neglect or strike your dog you will cut it's pack instinct and teach it that violence solves problems. Owning one of these dogs will not mean that you are protected, but spending the money and the time to train a powerful dog will insure that you have not only companion and loyal friend but a protector for life.

Do the right thing with one of these dogs and you end up with this:

[tommygun]

Oh really? I might have a spot for you on my paintball squad. Tactical Paintball, not speedball.

Funny enough I suck at paintball and laser tag.

Agreed, mine is a loving animal that when he is not in defence mode he is like a lab. Having a power breed is not an easy task. But when you own a Shepard, Doberman or Rottweiler you must understand that if you neglect or strike your dog you will cut it's pack instinct and teach it that violence solves problems. Owning one of these dogs will not mean that you are protected, but spending the money and the time to train a powerful dog will insure that you have not only companion and loyal friend but a protector for life.

Do the right thing with one of these dogs and you end up with this:

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What a cutie!

My old man had a rottie when I was little. He tells me stories about when I was about a year old and he'd be in our garage working on the car. I'd be in the middle of the front lawn and the dog would be sort of a makeshift babysitter. Apparently I liked to pull the dogs tail, ears and put my fingers in his mouth and he'd just sit there and take it. But when a stranger approached he'd start to growl. He'd never leave the grass but would track people walking by or the mailman. As long as they stayed on the pavement they'd be ok. But when people he did know approached he was the friendliest dog you'd ever come across.

I'm far from a dog whisperer but I think so many owners have little understanding of the specific breeds and how to deal with them.

[lookingforlove]

Legality of Prostitution

Being from the US, where we basically have no legalized prostitution, I was surprised to see that Ontario has legalized prostitution. So that takes in Toronto. I thought that Ottawa was in Ontario or is it that just the city of Ottawa doesn't have legalized prostitution? How about the rest of Canada? Since prostitution is legal does that mean that providers can freely advertise their services and prices?

[toban]

Some quick answers!

Being from the US, where we basically have no legalized prostitution, I was surprised to see that Ontario has legalized prostitution. So that takes in Toronto. I thought that Ottawa was in Ontario or is it that just the city of Ottawa doesn't have legalized prostitution? How about the rest of Canada? Since prostitution is legal does that mean that providers Prostitution is legal in all of Canadacan freely advertise their services and prices?

Yes - Prostitution is legal in all provinces and territories of Canada, not only in Ontario!

Yes - Ottawa is in Ontario and it also happens to be the Capitol City of Canada.

Yes - Providers in Canada may legally advertise their rates and services but there are some strict restrictions on where and how that may be done.

FYI - A comprehensive list of such advertisements for transexual escorts can be seen here - https://www.shemalecanada.com/

[dom r]

Using a weapon on an unarmed person will get you charged with assault. Self-defense is not valid as you just escalated the situation. Not only that, but as you are not trained to use a weapon, there is a very high chance the weapon will be used against you.

In Canada all products with a label containing the words pepper spray, mace, etc., or otherwise originally produced for use on humans are classified as a prohibited weapon. Only law enforcement officers may legally carry or possess pepper spray.

So if you attack an unarmed person with pepper spray, you will be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Your client will by charged with attempted robbery (same as robbery). Let's assume this is a first offense. He will get a max of 2 years. You will get a max of 3 years. Which is worse in the eyes of the Law?

Prostitution is legal in Ontario....take Crag's advice: Call the Cops.

i have pepper spray. or ill get a weapon and use it towards them if someone attempts to do that i grab for it in the room and i go and get my money if its a big ammount if it's a small ammount then i just let them be and call someone in the near future and to get my money back promptly.

it all depends on the situation at hand.

keep your head up. hopefully you didn't get hurt.

idea.....put your money in the bank immediately where its safe but treated unfairly because the bankers don't give much interest in return. Yep they take our money and invest it and make big bucks but give dick all in return and surprisingly are able to sleep at night.

in a way(depending) it would be self defense to use pepper spray because the focker is already a threat because hes trying to steal your money.

its like 1950's meets 2012 where almost nothing has changed because fockers like that still get away with stealing and even worse like child kidnaping. Where are the surveilance cameras on EVERY SINGLE street corner recording 24/7 onto hard drives then when a crime occurs the focker responsible can be tracked,located and captured no matter where he is. But no,billions are spent on police force and like 1950 all over again-when the police show up the criminal is gone and nothing is done.

it would actually be FAR cheaper to spend on surveilance cameras recording onto hard drives on every possible street corner,block and field than the countless billions on police force and prison systems because when these criminals know its gauranteed theyll get caught it will reduce crime by 90% thus less prison/court expenses and police force. Get it?

[dom r]

anyways, wow.shesbeuteefull.com

[Shyla Wild]

Yes - Prostitution is legal in all provinces and territories of Canada, not only in Ontario!

Yes - Ottawa is in Ontario and it also happens to be the Capitol City of Canada.

Yes - Providers in Canada may legally advertise their rates and services but there are some strict restrictions on where and how that may be done.

FYI - A comprehensive list of such advertisements for transexual escorts can be seen here - https://www.shemalecanada.com/

Not Quebec

idea.....put your money in the bank immediately where its safe.

in a way(depending) it would be self defense to use pepper spray because the focker is already a threat because hes trying to steal your money.

its like 1950's meets 2012 where almost nothing has changed because fockers like that still get away with stealing and even worse like child kidnaping. Where are the surveilance cameras on EVERY SINGLE street corner recording 24/7 onto hard drives then when a crime occurs the focker responsible can be tracked,located and captured no matter where he is. But no,billions are spent on police force and like 1950 all over again-when the police show up the criminal is gone and nothing is done.

it would actually be cheaper to spend on surveilance cameras recording onto hard drives than the countless billions on police force and prison system because when these criminals know its gauranteed theyll get caught it will reduce crime by 90% thus less prison expenses and police force. Get it?

1- putting money in the bank means the government can audit/rob you.

2-surveillance systems are useless. Big fucking deal that you have him on camera. What good is a camera if the guy kills you? Surveillance and alarms are garbage. If someone wants to hurt you they will...and no camera will defend you when it's happening.

3-your idea of self defense is wrong. You can use equal or lesser force to defend yourself. Using a weapon is escalating the situation

[dom r]

Not Quebec1- putting money in the bank means the government can audit/rob you.2-surveillance systems are useless. Big fucking deal that you have him on camera. What good is a camera if the guy kills you? Surveillance and alarms are garbage. If someone wants to hurt you they will...and no camera will defend you when it's happening.3-your idea of self defense is wrong. You can use equal or lesser force to defend yourself. Using a weapon is escalating the situation

But if you want to buy a house or invest you have to prove where your money came from.

Well if the criminal is trying to steal from you, you have the right to grab him, if he then trys to hit, you have the right to defend yourself but I do agree you must use an equal or lesser force but how at that moment will your arms become stronger than his if he is stronger than ya? Pepper spray sure would help.

If surveliance cameras were used to the extent that they cover an ENTIRE city where every humanbeing can be tracked and located, then it would be impossible for a criminal to escape because he would be found thus this will reduce crime by a very large percentage like 99%. BUT who will surveilance those who surveilance? Maby the internet....all surveilance cameras are live on the internet and recording onto hard drives 24/7. OK gov you may use my idea but may i get a cut?