if a client does not request to have a call back or a text do not fUken do IT!!!

[aguyoutthere1]

It has been suggested here that pooner phones or burner phones could solve the problem many guys see with the practice of girls calling back to numbers left on their call-displays.. Several girls here have suggested that they see nothing wrong with making such calls and they feel it is their right to do so, not realizing apparently however that unsolicited calls such as this could lead to severe consequences for the guy if intercepted by the wrong person. Such calls have the potential to cause irreparable harm to the guys professional life or personal relationship/marriage.

Not only that, but when a girl claims to offer the ?utmost discretion? as so many do, then how can she justify making an unsolicited call to a number that shows on her call display, possibly the number of a person unknown to her, possibly a number dialled by mistake! For these reasons then, I disagree that it is the clients responsibility.

Several girls here have stated emphatically that when calling an escort it is up to the guy to state that he does not want the girl to call back. Well of course that may well be an impossibility for many reasons because often:
- the girl has not left an answering machine on
- the call goes immediately to voicemail and the machine is full so message could be left
- she doesn't review and respond to any messages ever, or at least in a timely manner.

I suggest that unless there is an ongoing relationship of some sort between the escort and a client and she knows for certain it will be appreciated, the escort should never initiate such a call.

Well said Toban. As far as the name calling, seems to be both sides saying some nice things. (Would I rather be a Queen, or just stupid?)

Two questions are:
1) Why are we arguing with someone that is not an SP?
2) Why is someone that is not an SP so invested in this discussion?

Trust me gentlemen, 99% of SP will not call you back. It is an unwritten rule. The only ones that ever called me back called within 5 minutes of my call. I do try to give guidelines on their answering machine. (If they have one, and many seem to not have one, or it is full)

I did however have an SP consistently text me when they were in town. After numerous requests to stop she finally did.



KC

[xoxJanexox]

The main issue in this thread revolves around the reasonable expectation of a client from a provider regarding his discretion and privacy.

Putting aside the argument that escorting is different from the "ordinary" type of business and therefore shall be different, which in my view is without merits, I think TG escorts are not existing in a vacuum. There are many GGs escorts that outnumber us and for whom the majority of our clients got accustomed. I really doubt GG escorts to approve calling back a client because they do understand the consequences of such behavior being girlfriends, partners, wives themselves in their real life.

It is for this reason and others already shared in the previous posts, that calling back a client is not a reasonable expectation from a client.

The point of view that some providers have the same cell phones (work & personal) is in my view a failure of the provider to separate her personal life from her profession. This should not be reflected on the client by any means.

At the end of the day, each provider will manage her business the way she feels comfortable and whether that practice is accepted or rejected by the majority of clients is something that she will figure out soon by the virtue of the same market principles "$$$" !

[Ana_Jolie]

Well said Toban. As far as the name calling, seems to be both sides saying some nice things. (Would I rather be a Queen, or just stupid?)

Two questions are:
1) Why are we arguing with someone that is not an SP?
2) Why is someone that is not an SP so invested in this discussion?

Trust me gentlemen, 99% of SP will not call you back. It is an unwritten rule. The only ones that ever called me back called within 5 minutes of my call. I do try to give guidelines on their answering machine. (If they have one, and many seem to not have one, or it is full)

I did however have an SP consistently text me when they were in town. After numerous requests to stop she finally did.



KC

Well my dear I was an SP for many years. I am not as invested in this conversation as you might like to think, but a spade is a spade. I am calling it how I see it. As well I dont believe we have been interacting with each other in this conversation which is btw on an open forum for anyone to be involved in and share their thoughts. The guy posting originally was very vague with his posting and still has been? I dont know? I kind of stopped paying attention and posting replies to what people have said to me. I am really sorry you had issues with an SP consistently texting you when they were in town. That I do find highly inappropriate. This is not something anyone should do. BUT mistakes happen and I already stated my other thoughts on the subject. Quite frankly I no longer care to participate in this conversation. SO have fun xox

[wantitss63]

I?ve been following this thread with interest. The first time I called a TG provider (or any provider for that matter), I did not get through. I hung up, and the phone rang within 15-20 seconds. Arrangements were made and things went well. I had no clue as to what was considered ?reasonable? or ?appropriate? regarding such call backs. However, I did (and still do) fully accept that there is an element of risk involved in such interactions. I also accept that I initiated the contact and that the Tgirl (who is NOT involved in this thread) is, for want of a better word, the party in control ? she was selling, I was buying. As I see it, I granted that control implicitly when I called her. Now I am NOT suggesting that it is OK for providers to ?cold-call? potential clients around supper time ? or at any time. Having read the posts in this thread, I didn?t see any suggestion from any of the girls that this is an OK course of action. The idea that there is a brief period of time when it is OK to respond promptly to a call received apparently aroused lots of passion and a few insults. Personally, I see nothing wrong with prompt call-backs at all. As mentioned, if you don?t want that possibility, say so.

I have as much reason as any client to desire discretion and confidentiality, but I think it?s fairly obvious that there is greater risk for the provider ? outcalls take them to unfamiliar locations to meet unfamiliar people; incalls bring these same people to them. There is a graphic reminder of that risk here:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...by-3-suspects/

For those who haven?t seen this, the victim is Eva Lin.

Anyway, I have met the beautiful Sunshine, and will do so again as soon as my crazy schedule permits. She certainly doesn?t need my help in defending herself, but it should be obvious from her posts that she is intelligent, thoughtful and articulate. As Shyla mentioned, the industry is made up of individuals ? inevitably, there will be a range of opinions and positions on every topic.

Anyway, that?s my $0.05 (I rounded up ?cos there?s no more pennies)

[Alexis]

Stay clear of Candyland and Sunshine, or any SP that would call or text you back in this scenario.... WOW - Too stupid to see the obvious....Well said Alexis...You are on my list to see

I think stupid might be a bit harsh..

I've been around escorts all my life..

I do what I know is the right thing to do for me..

However.. if you're drunk and texting me at 4am.. expect a text back at 7am when I get up.. lol..

(joking.. I delete these and don't reply at all..)

Every girl is going to do things different..

I do my damnedest to provide the best discretion possible...

If someone wants me to call back.. they need to leave a message saying so..

I might call back within 5 minutes if I was driving or hit the wrong button on my phone tho..

To me and every female provider I've known it's very simple common sense..

[Hockeydude89]

.It's obvious this person is upset because they are probably in a relationship and receiving a return call is a risk of them getting caught. I'm just going to say that if you have a significant other and you are running around behind their backs making appointments like this, you should expect stuff like this to happen. If you're that worried about your girlfriend/wife finding out, don't run around...but if your going to cheat then expect to be caught sooner or later, one way or another. If she had not called you back your significant other would have found out at some point in the future probably some other way. You can't keep secrets forever.

[Ana_Jolie]

wrong thread

[uniqueall]

if I cb, and the guy hates me and I lose a client,ok...
but if I don't cb I will lose this opportunity 100 %...
so like I am losing it anyways...so why not try back?maybe the guy is actually expecting a cb...
if I cb I might get a client...
so its like a 50/50 thing...
just my own opinion though...

[Paul Smith]

i never tend to post unless it is a review, but here it goes.
i been meaning to create a post for a while now.

ladies!!!

if i call you and do not leave a message, DO NOT call back.
if i call you and do not leave a message, DO NOT TEXT.
if i text you, and mention in the text not to text me back or text me until a certain time, PLEASE DO SO!!!

most of you, in all of your ads keep mentioning that privacy and discretion is assured!!!? i believe some of you need to google the actual terms and descriptions of your codes of conduct!!!
It seems more and more of you have no idea what discretion and privacy means.

so to all of you, have respect, like most of us do. i call you with unblocked number or a text, that does NOT give you the right to call back or text when it is convenient to you!!!

Detox.

Wrong dude if you need to be that discreet then don't call anyone. Just like if anyone calls me I will call back.