if a client does not request to have a call back or a text do not fUken do IT!!!

[tsKITANA]

Who asked you!

[Crossover1]

You can say it any way you want but if you call someone, anyone, and you don't get an answer, it is a possibility that you may get a call back. Or you won't get one, it depends on how the person receiving the call sees it. It doesn't depend on some law of escorting. So, if you don't want a call back, leave clear instructions that you don't want a call back. You've covered your bases. If the girl calls you back anyway, she's in the wrong. But if you don't let the girl know not to call back, you can expect that she may call back. It's a possibility. It depends how the girl operates and how she sees this issue.

I'm not going to repeat this again, I think I've illustrated the point clearly. It doesn't matter if someone agrees with the poster's opinion, that does not make it a fact. It remains an opinion.

Sunshine

Yes, and I'm not going to repeat it again: It's inappropriate to call back a client who calls you unless they give you clear instructions that it's okay! It is an accepted rule my dear, not an opinion! When you say "it's a possibility" that a john might get a call back.....yes that's true. Don't do it! This what many of us are trying to get across. Either you believe discretion is important for a john or you don't.

I would add most girls are very good about it. A few are not. They slough it off as "security" when it has nothing to do with it.

Cheers!

[gizelle-fox]

I Agree !!!!!

I agree with Anna.

I don't know you so I can't make a determination one way or another but I can tell you that you are exaggerating. A real client who is calling me wants to speak with me. He will keep trying until he reaches me. If I just missed his call, I sometimes return the call although it is rare. But even if I did it all the time, what is the problem with that? You called the girl so you must want to speak with her. If she returns the missed call, you should be happy, no? If you don't want a call back or a text back, you need to tell the girl.

Your post makes it seem that the girl is out of line by calling you back but what about the hundreds of players who do everything possible to get under our skin? Here are ultra common things that happen every day:

Call and hang up

Call and doesn't speak audibly or whispers or changes his voice

Call and asks fifty questions and then isn't sure when he wants to see me but won't get off the phone to let me get on with my day

Call and makes an appointment but never shows up, sometimes says he's at my door, sometimes says he's held up and will be a half hour late but then doesn't show up again

Call and asks for an outcall but gives a fake address or non-existent address

Calls and insults me

Calls and asks "did you call me?"

Texts instead of calling even when all my ads say no texts

E-mails instead of calling even if all my ads say no e-mails

All sorts of questions by e-mail or text that never lead to an appointment or even a call

I'm up until 2:00am or 4:00am or whatever - guy calls can you see me tomorrow at 9:30am? OK, I will - get up early, get ready - he doesn't show up and doesn't even call to cancel

Guy wants to see me but it has to be right now, right now!!! OK, I rush to get ready and then he doesn't show up

etc, etc, etc.

I get well over a hundred calls of this type every single fucking day. The girls are human beings you know but do you hear us complaining about this kind of abuse? Rarely. Maybe we've got more balls than you.

That's what our day is like. Compared to that your complaint seems like sniveling. If there is some kind of rule book to this, the clients are the ones who break all the rules, most of the time. If a girl occasionaly missteps, give her a break about it.

Best advice to the guys - get a phone that is only for pooning. Also, contact the girl in the way she wants you to and don't play games (not meant at the poster, I don't know if he plays games). You want a good time with the girl, put everything on your side and it might just happen.

Sunshine

[cooldude]

Yes and what you guys are failing to understand that not only do these girls use these phone lines for business but their personal lives as well. So in other words if someone calls your home phone and you miss the call and do not know who it is what would you do? I would call it back. If you guys fail to leave a msg requesting no call back is necessary then you are leaving the reasoning of calling or someone returning the call left open for interpretation. It has nothing to do with common sense. I personally think anyone with common sense who did not want a call back would leave a msg saying so. You guys sure love to back each other and praise each others points but take into consideration that we are not physics and we do have a personal life as well.

Why would you have only one phone for your business and your personal life. I have different phones for both. And you ladies are all forgetting that we are the customers here and if the majority of us say that we don't wabt call backs unless specified then that should be the case. If you are going to call back then you should put that in bold letters in your ad stating: CALLING ME GIVES ME PERMISSION TO CALL YOU BACK AT MY DISCRETION AND TALK TO ANYONE THAT ANSWERS SO I CAN SCREW UP YOUR LIFE! This is just stupid.

[Crossover1]

I agree with Anna.

I don't know you so I can't make a determination one way or another but I can tell you that you are exaggerating. A real client who is calling me wants to speak with me. He will keep trying until he reaches me. If I just missed his call, I sometimes return the call although it is rare. But even if I did it all the time, what is the problem with that? You called the girl so you must want to speak with her. If she returns the missed call, you should be happy, no? If you don't want a call back or a text back, you need to tell the girl.

Your post makes it seem that the girl is out of line by calling you back but what about the hundreds of players who do everything possible to get under our skin? Here are ultra common things that happen every day:

Call and hang up

Call and doesn't speak audibly or whispers or changes his voice

Call and asks fifty questions and then isn't sure when he wants to see me but won't get off the phone to let me get on with my day

Call and makes an appointment but never shows up, sometimes says he's at my door, sometimes says he's held up and will be a half hour late but then doesn't show up again

Call and asks for an outcall but gives a fake address or non-existent address

Calls and insults me

Calls and asks "did you call me?"

Texts instead of calling even when all my ads say no texts

E-mails instead of calling even if all my ads say no e-mails

All sorts of questions by e-mail or text that never lead to an appointment or even a call

I'm up until 2:00am or 4:00am or whatever - guy calls can you see me tomorrow at 9:30am? OK, I will - get up early, get ready - he doesn't show up and doesn't even call to cancel

Guy wants to see me but it has to be right now, right now!!! OK, I rush to get ready and then he doesn't show up

etc, etc, etc.

I get well over a hundred calls of this type every single fucking day. The girls are human beings you know but do you hear us complaining about this kind of abuse? Rarely. Maybe we've got more balls than you.

Maybe you do, but I could post my own list, including don't fucking call me back

How does you calling me back somehow get rid of men that are morons? It doesn't. I would be the first person to say that if a guy is an asshole or time waster, call him back and tell him he'd better lay off. But your anger about shitty clients and their nonsense means you take it out on guys like me that are considerate and kind? It just means you've lost a potential client. Business.

Personally I believe that very soon there will be a certified john list that is anonymous like a paypal payment that will not reveal any parts of the guy's identity but will tell you the girl that he doesn't fuck around and has a good reputation. If he doesn't show up or wastes your time, it goes on his record. Then good ladies will find good johns and roses all around

[sunshine]

Don't waste your energy

Maybe you do, but I could post my own list, including don't fucking call me back

How does you calling me back somehow get rid of men that are morons? It doesn't. I would be the first person to say that if a guy is an asshole or time waster, call him back and tell him he'd better lay off. But your anger about shitty clients and their nonsense means you take it out on guys like me that are considerate and kind? It just means you've lost a potential client. Business.

Personally I believe that very soon there will be a certified john list that is anonymous like a paypal payment that will not reveal any parts of the guy's identity but will tell you the girl that he doesn't fuck around and has a good reputation. If he doesn't show up or wastes your time, it goes on his record. Then good ladies will find good johns and roses all around

By ignoring what I said, do you think it will just disappear? Don't waste your energy.
The girls are in charge, not the clients. This is dangerous for the girls. They have every right to use whatever system makes them feel safer. If you want to see a girl and you have special requirements, it's up to you to let her know.

Sunshine

[Ana_Jolie]

Why would you have only one phone for your business and your personal life. I have different phones for both. And you ladies are all forgetting that we are the customers here and if the majority of us say that we don't wabt call backs unless specified then that should be the case. If you are going to call back then you should put that in bold letters in your ad stating: CALLING ME GIVES ME PERMISSION TO CALL YOU BACK AT MY DISCRETION AND TALK TO ANYONE THAT ANSWERS SO I CAN SCREW UP YOUR LIFE! This is just stupid.

Seeing as I do not escort I do not need to be putting anything in an ad. When I did escort though any client that I have ever returned a phone call to never had any issues with me doing so. I never lost a client because of it nor did it cause such drama that you queens are posting. Just because you are a customer does not mean you are always right. This isnt a fast food joint or a department store. If you do not want a call back then make sure that there isnt by saying so and not leaving things open for interpretation. Whats so hard to get about that?

[Ana_Jolie]

If you want to see a girl and you have special requirements, it's up to you to let her know.

[Shyla Wild]

In the end, we are talking business and every business in this world is run differently. Unfortunately, it is very rare (if not impossible) in any business model that the clients make the rules. Company policies can differ from one company to another. I am sure we have all complained in the past to someone that their competition does business differently. I have often been met with this answer to my compliants,"Then just go there."

Every girl is different, and every girl does business differently.

[jfi]

wow

Well they called back, opps maybe she thought. She knew who was calling? Made a mistake? Who knows? But you did call and these things will happen! Could have been honest mistake!

Understand it may have been bad timing!

Then again some of these girls are so hot! It would make my day!!


Cheers

[TSd8]

Plain & Simple

Stay clear of Candyland and Sunshine, or any SP that would call or text you back in this scenario.... WOW - Too stupid to see the obvious....Well said Alexis...You are on my list to see

[Ana_Jolie]

Stay clear of Candyland and Sunshine, or any SP that would call or text you back in this scenario.... WOW - Too stupid to see the obvious....Well said Alexis...You are on my list to see

I have not been a SP for a very long time darling. Calling us to stupid to see the obvious pretty much sums up any guy who calls and does not want a return call but fails to inform the SP.

[sunshine]

You're the idiot!

Stay clear of Candyland and Sunshine, or any SP that would call or text you back in this scenario.... WOW - Too stupid to see the obvious....Well said Alexis...You are on my list to see

Who are you calling stupid? You're the one who can't read, so who is stupid? I already said I rarely call anyone back. I am merely defending a girl's right to establish contact in the way she chooses. So, if you did read what I said, you are attempting to ostracize us because we talked back. Just another example of a whining, sniveling man who doesn't respect girls.

It is the girl who is in charge, not the clients. It has to be that way for the girl's protection. Client's should contact the girl in the way she chooses and be clear about any special requests so the girl understands. It takes less than 2 minutes in the case of leaving a message on her answering machine.

As far as you trying to make us lose business because we don't agree with you, you can go to hell. We are well established and people know they can rely on us for a great experience. For a real snapshot of how much respect I give clients, look at my website. I've known Anna for a long time and she is trustworthy as well.

There is a saying: "The customer is always right." As I said before, this is not a business or a job. It is an arrangement between the girl and a man. If a girl agrees to exchange sex for money, this does not make her a slave. It does not give the man the right to do as he pleases. He only gains what the girl agrees to give. Unfortunately, many men see the girls as slaves. Hence, it is necessary for the girl to be cautious and to establish a compact with the man in a way which protects her interests and her security.

In the case of this thread, how much trouble is it for the guy to leave a message, asking the girl not to call back? I believe he is a real client. My lack of agreement is based in the right of the girl to conduct herself in the way she feels safest.

Just because I don't agree, does not make me stupid or anything else.

Sunshine

[toban]

Call-backs should not be routinely made by any escort

It has been suggested here that pooner phones or burner phones could solve the problem many guys see with the practice of girls calling back to numbers left on their call-displays.. Several girls here have suggested that they see nothing wrong with making such calls and they feel it is their right to do so, not realizing apparently however that unsolicited calls such as this could lead to severe consequences for the guy if intercepted by the wrong person. Such calls have the potential to cause irreparable harm to the guys professional life or personal relationship/marriage.

Not only that, but when a girl claims to offer the “utmost discretion” as so many do, then how can she justify making an unsolicited call to a number that shows on her call display, possibly the number of a person unknown to her, possibly a number dialled by mistake! For these reasons then, I disagree that it is the clients responsibility.

Several girls here have stated emphatically that when calling an escort it is up to the guy to state that he does not want the girl to call back. Well of course that may well be an impossibility for many reasons because often:
- the girl has not left an answering machine on
- the call goes immediately to voicemail and the machine is full so message could be left
- she doesn't review and respond to any messages ever, or at least in a timely manner.

I suggest that unless there is an ongoing relationship of some sort between the escort and a client and she knows for certain it will be appreciated, the escort should never initiate such a call.

[TSd8]

Well said Toban

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