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  • #31
    back from my mango smoothies paradise!

    Btw, I have to add one more thing which is pretty important:
    though i agree it is hard to have personal time while working, but established, well known escort do lots of advanced pre-bookings and can estimate how busy she will be tomorrow, the day after tomorrow and so on.

    I, for instance, have already advanced pre-bookings as far as August, I can have more pre-bookings beyond month of August if I want to, but I usually ask them to get back to me since my schedule is not 100% confirmed before 15 days prior to my arrival in a certain city. The schedule might change due to private bookings, for instance.

    Tomorrow for instance, here is my schedule:
    9.30 am vip session
    11 am vip session
    then off for lunch break.
    3pm regular session
    6 pm VIP,
    7.15 to 10.15 pm dinner date.
    done, off to bed

    Having said that, we are not slaves for others. We still have our private time as well.
    I'm not waiting in the hotel room for my clients. I'm only in the room once i know i will have somebody.

    Anyway, i'm off to bed. This thread has gone a little too far from the original topic.

    O well....c'est la vie

    good night, off to bed now

    Tia Phoenixx

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    • #32
      I see it increasing!!! Sometimes it may seem like declining because there is alot more girls in the business!!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by merelypink View Post
        I see it increasing!!! Sometimes it may seem like declining because there is alot more girls in the business!!
        Morning...let's rise and shine. It's 8.15 am in a beautiful New Orleans!

        that's true. It is harder and harder to become establish in this industry for new girls though the pie is definitely getting bigger.

        Other things, the popularity of an escort can not be measured precisely by forums who geared on porn and merely on sex.
        The criteria of a good escort and a good porn star is different

        Those busty, curvy girls who seem popular in related sex forums, do not necessarily mean she will be popular as an escort, though it is possible if she has great personal skills and know how to treat her clients well.

        If a particular tgirl escort has a website we can compare how popular they are for their clients.
        In Canada, if i'm excluded. The most four popular escorts are:
        1. Terah http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/terahs...m#trafficstats
        2. Lola http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/shemal...m#trafficstats
        3. Lucy http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/tslucy.com#trafficstats
        4. Victoria http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/shemal...m#trafficstats

        Terah and Victoria have paid website, so they are a little different, though can be considered as well since they are also an escort.
        So judging by escort website alone, Lola and Lucy are the leaders

        I'm sure they are others, but they probably have not yet the website.

        Now, i have to get ready for my 1st client!

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        • #34
          Escorting

          It appears that a discussion of whether the escorting business is in decline has turned to a discussion on whether the escorting business is a "good" business to pursue over a decade or two. Albeit, a more interesting thread.

          Tia appears to promote the business due to her strategic decisions that led to her accumulated wealth and generous vacation time while still "enjoying" life. Craig appears to promote the clearly traditional educated route to life and stating that life is about love, happiness, and family (not money). The flaw in these arguments is that each side "thinks" they are right because they have different ideals of what is important to them.

          One might logically envision this ...

          At the end, Tia will be happy at age 50, retired and living in a beautiful home with in Jakarta with all her family taken care of (and herself) for perhaps generations to come due to her strategic decisions. She may still at that point find a "love," but I am dubious of how all the years of escorting might affect her ability to do so. She is will not traditionally have a family that she can watch grow and leave a "legacy," however, she will live it through the joy of say her of family (i.e. nieces or nephews). She is nor right, nor wrong, simply trading off.

          At the end, Craig will be earning a stable income in a traditional job in Thailand where he will have a wife and perhaps children until his dying days (ignoring divorce probabilities and whether her even wants children). This true feel of companionship, love, family which Tia might arguably still attain in a different manner, is what satisfies Craig. He is not right, nor wrong, simply deciding what is right for him.

          It is not about how we got to where we are today, it is about what we are going to do tomorrow. As long as you can sleep at night and be content with the life you have created and envisioned into the future, then kudos to you.

          While I tend to agree with Craig (as will 99% percent of society), at the end of the day, "whatever floats your boat." See you in Thailand Craig!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by sensual_lover20 View Post
            It appears that a discussion of whether the escorting business is in decline has turned to a discussion on whether the escorting business is a "good" business to pursue over a decade or two. Albeit, a more interesting thread.

            Tia appears to promote the business due to her strategic decisions that led to her accumulated wealth and generous vacation time while still "enjoying" life. Craig appears to promote the clearly traditional educated route to life and stating that life is about love, happiness, and family (not money). The flaw in these arguments is that each side "thinks" they are right because they have different ideals of what is important to them.

            One might logically envision this ...

            At the end, Tia will be happy at age 50, retired and living in a beautiful home with in Jakarta with all her family taken care of (and herself) for perhaps generations to come due to her strategic decisions. She may still at that point find a "love," but I am dubious of how all the years of escorting might affect her ability to do so. She is will not traditionally have a family that she can watch grow and leave a "legacy," however, she will live it through the joy of say her of family (i.e. nieces or nephews). She is nor right, nor wrong, simply trading off.

            At the end, Craig will be earning a stable income in a traditional job in Thailand where he will have a wife and perhaps children until his dying days (ignoring divorce probabilities and whether her even wants children). This true feel of companionship, love, family which Tia might arguably still attain in a different manner, is what satisfies Craig. He is not right, nor wrong, simply deciding what is right for him.

            It is not about how we got to where we are today, it is about what we are going to do tomorrow. As long as you can sleep at night and be content with the life you have created and envisioned into the future, then kudos to you.

            While I tend to agree with Craig (as will 99% percent of society), at the end of the day, "whatever floats your boat." See you in Thailand Craig!
            wow...you are definitely an early bird.
            Me too! It's 5.15 am in New Orleans, i'm about to be ready to catch my morning flight.

            Let me comment on this:
            Beauty is a power, female beauty especially.
            You guys want to leave in Thailand, because people, women especially, are more accepting and welcoming.
            How about a beautiful woman?
            Well...an attractive woman can get laid every 5 minutes...seriously.
            She gets hit so many times and if she wants to, she can seduce those whom she likes, albeit her sex life will be fulfilling.
            Not to mention those who are willing to support and take care of her financially.

            Thanks to cosmetic procedures and surgery, at 50 years old, I will be still looking great.
            Just check out all the female movie stars and former models in their 50s....

            I will be still having so much fun at that age...though i'm most probably having a partner already at that time. It all depends on me, which life I will lead at that age.
            Let's see....

            Beauty is a power
            Intelligence is a power
            When we have both...we will be irresistible

            What do you think?

            time to pack my luggage now

            Tia

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            • #36
              Tia - Again, it is all a frame of reference. You "claim" your beauty and intelligence makes you wanted. This may very well be true, however, your desired eternal vanity is what is important to you. This is not important to Craig. There is nothing to debate further. You may have physical attractiveness, intelligence and accumulated some wealth so you are happy/proud. You should be proud of yourself regardless. However, using your "beauty" and "intelligence" (both entirely relative concepts) to gain advantages and further your personal life is an often a shallow way to live. This is what you value and is your decision. There are many of you out there, so you are not alone at least.

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              • #37
                sweet and wise.

                No, i'm not that shallow indeed. However, i do know based my experience since i was young till now, that my beauty, intelligence, social skill, and charm have enhanced my way to my success as an escort (and as a person) to this extend.
                Without these assets, i would have been nobody in Jakarta.

                Sad but true. Life is not fair...never will be.
                So we have to face it and live with it.

                I wish you the best for your future my friend


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                • #38
                  I hope to enjoy Tia soon in Toronto, her and Lola perhaps for a weekend together. Throw in Asia Missy. Shemales are growing and are accepted more than ever within society in my opin.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tia Phoenixx View Post
                    Morning...let's rise and shine. It's 8.15 am in a beautiful New Orleans!

                    that's true. It is harder and harder to become establish in this industry for new girls though the pie is definitely getting bigger.

                    Other things, the popularity of an escort can not be measured precisely by forums who geared on porn and merely on sex.
                    The criteria of a good escort and a good porn star is different

                    Those busty, curvy girls who seem popular in related sex forums, do not necessarily mean she will be popular as an escort, though it is possible if she has great personal skills and know how to treat her clients well.

                    If a particular tgirl escort has a website we can compare how popular they are for their clients.
                    In Canada, if i'm excluded. The most four popular escorts are:
                    1. Terah http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/terahs...m#trafficstats
                    2. Lola http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/shemal...m#trafficstats
                    3. Lucy http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/tslucy.com#trafficstats
                    4. Victoria http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/shemal...m#trafficstats

                    Terah and Victoria have paid website, so they are a little different, though can be considered as well since they are also an escort.
                    So judging by escort website alone, Lola and Lucy are the leaders

                    I'm sure they are others, but they probably have not yet the website.

                    Now, i have to get ready for my 1st client!
                    As i have said before and will say again, website traffic does not specifically point to how busy or popular an escort is.
                    It only says how much traffic their site is getting. You could have the most traffic in the world but it all comes from somewhere you are not, it generally means very little.

                    I would say many of the highest grossing escorts in Canada are not listed on Alexa.

                    Victoria has large traffic due to her being on the web for a long time a doing much promotion.
                    Plus much of her traffic is for her pay site and not her escorting business.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tia Phoenixx View Post
                      wow...you are definitely an early bird.
                      Me too! It's 5.15 am in New Orleans, i'm about to be ready to catch my morning flight.

                      Let me comment on this:
                      Beauty is a power, female beauty especially.
                      You guys want to leave in Thailand, because people, women especially, are more accepting and welcoming.
                      How about a beautiful woman?
                      Well...an attractive woman can get laid every 5 minutes...seriously.
                      She gets hit so many times and if she wants to, she can seduce those whom she likes, albeit her sex life will be fulfilling.
                      Not to mention those who are willing to support and take care of her financially.

                      Thanks to cosmetic procedures and surgery, at 50 years old, I will be still looking great.
                      Just check out all the female movie stars and former models in their 50s....

                      I will be still having so much fun at that age...though i'm most probably having a partner already at that time. It all depends on me, which life I will lead at that age.
                      Let's see....

                      Beauty is a power
                      Intelligence is a power
                      When we have both...we will be irresistible

                      What do you think?

                      time to pack my luggage now

                      Tia
                      Your view on life is shallow.
                      You only view things on how they relate to sex.

                      Attractive women can get laid plenty, however women have a different drive than men.
                      Just because a man is turned on doesn't mean a women will sleep with them.
                      You are missing the part you cannot put your finger on.

                      Women choose partners based on many criteria, much of it being emotional.
                      Feeling safe and wanted is more important generally than feeling attractive, although that is important too.
                      This is why girls don't always choose the richest or best looking man.

                      You could say the thing about rich men, they can get laid every 5 minutes too.
                      But getting laid alone is just shallow and doesn't really give any indication of the quality of the person.

                      Beauty and intelligence are completely nothing compared to self worth and real values.
                      ladyboy.reviews

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by sensual_lover20 View Post
                        It appears that a discussion of whether the escorting business is in decline has turned to a discussion on whether the escorting business is a "good" business to pursue over a decade or two. Albeit, a more interesting thread.

                        Tia appears to promote the business due to her strategic decisions that led to her accumulated wealth and generous vacation time while still "enjoying" life. Craig appears to promote the clearly traditional educated route to life and stating that life is about love, happiness, and family (not money). The flaw in these arguments is that each side "thinks" they are right because they have different ideals of what is important to them.

                        One might logically envision this ...

                        At the end, Tia will be happy at age 50, retired and living in a beautiful home with in Jakarta with all her family taken care of (and herself) for perhaps generations to come due to her strategic decisions. She may still at that point find a "love," but I am dubious of how all the years of escorting might affect her ability to do so. She is will not traditionally have a family that she can watch grow and leave a "legacy," however, she will live it through the joy of say her of family (i.e. nieces or nephews). She is nor right, nor wrong, simply trading off.

                        At the end, Craig will be earning a stable income in a traditional job in Thailand where he will have a wife and perhaps children until his dying days (ignoring divorce probabilities and whether her even wants children). This true feel of companionship, love, family which Tia might arguably still attain in a different manner, is what satisfies Craig. He is not right, nor wrong, simply deciding what is right for him.

                        It is not about how we got to where we are today, it is about what we are going to do tomorrow. As long as you can sleep at night and be content with the life you have created and envisioned into the future, then kudos to you.

                        While I tend to agree with Craig (as will 99% percent of society), at the end of the day, "whatever floats your boat." See you in Thailand Craig!
                        Mainly I was telling her not to judge me.
                        She called me Middle class, but has no idea.

                        If I am middle class what did my family do before me?
                        Just because you live in a hut in another country doesn't mean you are not middle class in that country.
                        Being poor in Canada is far far worse than being poor in Indonesia, you cannot even compare it.

                        My family was driven from their home country and forced to relocate to Canada.
                        They were given land in one of the coldest and most desolate places in Canada.
                        The hardship my family had to endure to exceed in Canada was far worse than anything her family has ever known.

                        For her to come to my country and judge me is wrong.
                        My family helped build this country from scratch.
                        I do not thing immigrants have the right to come here, take advantage of our great country, then me I do not know hardship.
                        If you want to know hardship, read up on German speaking Russians being driven from their homeland.

                        Everyone is soooo hard done by....
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                          Mainly I was telling her not to judge me.
                          She called me Middle class, but has no idea.

                          If I am middle class what did my family do before me?
                          Just because you live in a hut in another country doesn't mean you are not middle class in that country.
                          Being poor in Canada is far far worse than being poor in Indonesia, you cannot even compare it.

                          My family was driven from their home country and forced to relocate to Canada.
                          They were given land in one of the coldest and most desolate places in Canada.
                          The hardship my family had to endure to exceed in Canada was far worse than anything her family has ever known.

                          For her to come to my country and judge me is wrong.
                          My family helped build this country from scratch.
                          I do not thing immigrants have the right to come here, take advantage of our great country, then me I do not know hardship.
                          If you want to know hardship, read up on German speaking Russians being driven from their homeland.

                          Everyone is soooo hard done by....
                          wow...what an answer.
                          Yes, that's true... i made a mistake...you are definitely not a middle class lol

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by maddplotter
                            Tia, if you could go back in time and give your younger self some advice about escorting, what would it be?

                            good question, but i'm too lazy to answer it at the moment.
                            I do however, plan to offer professional service for those who are eager to be in this competitive industry. For those who follow my advice, i will guarantee earning at least 200K annually. This is billions dollars business after all.
                            Wait and see....

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                              Your view on life is shallow.
                              You only view things on how they relate to sex.

                              Attractive women can get laid plenty, however women have a different drive than men.
                              Just because a man is turned on doesn't mean a women will sleep with them.
                              You are missing the part you cannot put your finger on.

                              Women choose partners based on many criteria, much of it being emotional.
                              Feeling safe and wanted is more important generally than feeling attractive, although that is important too.
                              This is why girls don't always choose the richest or best looking man.

                              You could say the thing about rich men, they can get laid every 5 minutes too.
                              But getting laid alone is just shallow and doesn't really give any indication of the quality of the person.

                              Beauty and intelligence are completely nothing compared to self worth and real values.

                              that's not my point of view on life btw, didn't you read my previous comment?
                              I guess not

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                                As i have said before and will say again, website traffic does not specifically point to how busy or popular an escort is.
                                It only says how much traffic their site is getting. You could have the most traffic in the world but it all comes from somewhere you are not, it generally means very little.

                                I would say many of the highest grossing escorts in Canada are not listed on Alexa.

                                Victoria has large traffic due to her being on the web for a long time a doing much promotion.
                                Plus much of her traffic is for her pay site and not her escorting business.
                                It is not specifically point on how busy the escorts are, but it is an indicator how popular they are.
                                Why people want to check their website if they are not interested then?
                                Yes, only small percentage will finally follow through and book an appointment, but nevertheless it is one of the indicators that the escort is popular.
                                Though, i have to agree with Victoria's case.
                                But with Lola's and Lucy's case, it simply means they are just popular escorts

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