Rob Ford

[Shyla Wild]

So you guys are upset about his work? Or his behaviour??
You think this is bad? Like I said before, good thing you good people don't live in Montreal. We have ousted 3 mayors in the last 18 months...trust us on this one, the next guy is not always better then the last. Union corruption, government kickbacks....you name it. We have seen it all recently out here. The city of Montreal is run by the mob.

People are upset that Ford lied? Look at this: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ions-1.1193077, the mayor of Laval caught red handed and is denying any wrong doing. How about the mayor of Montreal denying that meetings took place. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11...n-allegations/, then we arrested our latest mayor http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2..._arrested.html

Where you people see corruption in Ford, I see that you may be using the word "corruption" a little loosely. Spending a few dollars or borrowing city toys is nothing compared to this:

The Charbonneau Commission, officially the Commission of Inquiry on the Awarding and Management of Public Contracts in the Construction Industry, is a public inquiry in Quebec, Canada into potential corruption in the management of public construction contracts.The commission was enacted on 19 October 2011 by the provincial Liberal government of Jean Charest, and is chaired by Justice France Charbonneau.^[1] The mandate of the Committee is to:

1. Examine the existence of schemes and, where appropriate, to paint a portrait of activities involving collusion and corruption in the provision and management of public contracts in the construction industry (including private organizations, government enterprises and municipalities) and to include any links with the financing of political parties.
2. Paint a picture of possible organized crime infiltration in the construction industry.
3. Examine possible solutions and make recommendations establishing measures to identify, reduce and prevent collusion and corruption in awarding and managing public contracts in the construction industry.^[2]

Repercussions

• Resignation of Laval mayor Gilles Vaillancourt: in October 2012 police searched two of Vaillancourt's residences, municipal buildings, and safety deposit boxes rented by Vaillancourt. On 24 October Vaillancourt announced that he would be temporarily leaving his function as mayor for health reasons. On 9 November he resigned as mayor, denying all of the corruption allegations against him.On May 9, 2013 he was arrested at his home by the police and charged with gangsterism.^[3]
• Resignation of Montreal mayor G?rald Tremblay on November 5, 2012 as a direct result of revelations made in the Commission.^[4]
• Resignation of Montreal interim-mayor Michael Applebaum on June 18, 2013 after his arrest and 14 criminal charges stemming from activities linked to companies central to the Commission's testimony.^[5]

^Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charbonneau_Commission

[Guest]

Media brainwashing.

Hi all,

I really agree with crag on how Rob Ford is being brought down for being human with human faults.
Politicians are not gods, oracles, or crystal balls - they are human.
Humans err!

The media is a powerful source of propaganda.
It's all controlled, and it's designed to influence the way YOU think and feel.

Television commercials ONCE had us believing that it's healthy to even smoke cigarettes, and EVERYONE started to smoke. Watch Casablanca, lately.
Hollywood made many movies and tv series where the main characters smoked cigarettes and cigars, and pipes.
Our grandparents watched those shows and started smoking. Our parents saw them smoking and started smoking, too.
We saw our parents smoking and we started smoking.
If you smoke, your children will probably smoke, too, even with all the no smoking efforts that are being put into place by the media.

I, especially, believe that it was Hollywood that caused transsexuals to be hated and reviled by society so much.
Before mass media, transsexuals were accepted, respected, revered, and even feared, at least, tolerated.
It's getting better these days as more and more are making the news in a positive way and bringing about real awareness. But still, we are stigmatized. Like, Rob Ford is.

Rob Ford is being treated like a criminal and trying to be ousted because he is a human and has erred.
How do we know all that, watch your television to see how it's taking place, listen to your radio news and hear it, or read your over sized newspaper headlines and read all about it. You're likely to be influenced by it.
If a lie is repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, it becomes the "truth" in the minds of sheeple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGiX5tbLKiY#t=11

Think about it.
Babe,

[Shyla Wild]

Another thing, if you people think that there is no corruption at City Hall before Ford arrived, then you are fools. Ford was right with his promise beforehand. There is always mismanaged funds by the government. The difference is that Ford lacks the balls to do anything about it. If Montreal's corruption has been exposed, it's because someone had the balls to stand up to the mob. People can say what they what about Obama, but the man has balls. Something that Ford lacks.

[Locomotion]

SNL Rob Ford spoof

I don't know if anyone watches Saturday Night Live anymore (I know I usually don't) ... but they did this spoof of Rob Ford last week.

It's not really very funny, it seems more like a pathetic spoof of Chris Farley spoofing Rob Ford. "Hmmmm, Chris Farley isn't available due to death, so let's just get some random fat guy look alike to act like Chris Farley impersonating Rob Ford."

Also, the same boring Canadian stereotypes are used (again and again) for cheap laughs (yeah right, the whole country speaks with Newfoundland accents, says eh, aboot, blah blah blah ha ha ha.) That joke may have been funny when SCTV originated it with Bob & Doug something like 30 years ago, but it is no longer funny. It's been done. Can't the writers come up with something original?

Oh and a crack dealer sells Rob Ford crack during his televised interview. Wow, I didn't see that joke coming.

Loren Michaels is Canadian, he should have shut down this pathetic attempt at humour before it aired.

[Rockheart]

I do not believe he has come anywhere near doing what he promised Torontonians. Unfortunately he has covered himself with a very heavy coating of that very same gravy he was reportedly going to put a stop to! Without trying to think of some recent gravy spills here?s a few that easily came to my mind without hardly trying!

Using his $1,900,000.00 personal ?office budget? he is still passing the family sized gravy boat, and it's a big one:

- hired assistant football coaching staff for his much touted high-school football team and also provided city vehicles for their use. Isn?t this pure gravy, the very kind he pledged to stop?

- Provided a city bus throwing it?s paying passengers out into the rain, so his football team wouldn?t get wet!! Isn?t this pure gravy , the very kind he pledged to stop?

- just days ago provided $5,000.00 bonuses for each of his 19 member personal office staff. Isn?t this pure gravy , the very kind he pledged to stop?

- according to recent reports found within police files, frequently used those very same staffers who got big $5000.00 bonuses to pick up or deliver his gravy stained laundry and to shop for his workaday vodka micky?s. Isn?t this pure gravy, the very kind he pledged to stop?

Whether these allegations are true or not,
They are ELECTION issues, not reasons to lynch him prematurely.
If you don't like his record in office, don't vote for him.

Nothing you say here has anything to do with the current issue.
Vote him out or Vote him in, the rest is just BS.
Everything is blurred.

City council is 100% wrong in their actions.
They have gone past business to personal feelings and lies.

[Rockheart]

Another thing, if you people think that there is no corruption at City Hall before Ford arrived, then you are fools. Ford was right with his promise beforehand. There is always mismanaged funds by the government. The difference is that Ford lacks the balls to do anything about it. If Montreal's corruption has been exposed, it's because someone had the balls to stand up to the mob. People can say what they what about Obama, but the man has balls. Something that Ford lacks.

This issue has zero to do with corruption at city hall, and everything to do with people not liking Rob Fords lifestyle.

Whether there has been waste at city hall or bad decisions, corruption is not even on the table.

If Ford stole or misappropriated, he would be under investigation for such.
The fact is, it is all about his personal life, and how some think it affects city hall.

Citizens of Toronto are whining that their city looks bad, that is just a bunch of BS.
If anything it makes more people want to visit the city.

[Rockheart]

So you guys are upset about his work? Or his behaviour??
You think this is bad? Like I said before, good thing you good people don't live in Montreal. We have ousted 3 mayors in the last 18 months...trust us on this one, the next guy is not always better then the last. Union corruption, government kickbacks....you name it. We have seen it all recently out here. The city of Montreal is run by the mob.

People are upset that Ford lied? Look at this: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ions-1.1193077, the mayor of Laval caught red handed and is denying any wrong doing. How about the mayor of Montreal denying that meetings took place. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11...n-allegations/, then we arrested our latest mayor http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2..._arrested.html

Where you people see corruption in Ford, I see that you may be using the word "corruption" a little loosely. Spending a few dollars or borrowing city toys is nothing compared to this:

The Charbonneau Commission, officially the Commission of Inquiry on the Awarding and Management of Public Contracts in the Construction Industry, is a public inquiry in Quebec, Canada into potential corruption in the management of public construction contracts.The commission was enacted on 19 October 2011 by the provincial Liberal government of Jean Charest, and is chaired by Justice France Charbonneau.^[1] The mandate of the Committee is to:

1. Examine the existence of schemes and, where appropriate, to paint a portrait of activities involving collusion and corruption in the provision and management of public contracts in the construction industry (including private organizations, government enterprises and municipalities) and to include any links with the financing of political parties.
2. Paint a picture of possible organized crime infiltration in the construction industry.
3. Examine possible solutions and make recommendations establishing measures to identify, reduce and prevent collusion and corruption in awarding and managing public contracts in the construction industry.^[2]

Repercussions

• Resignation of Laval mayor Gilles Vaillancourt: in October 2012 police searched two of Vaillancourt's residences, municipal buildings, and safety deposit boxes rented by Vaillancourt. On 24 October Vaillancourt announced that he would be temporarily leaving his function as mayor for health reasons. On 9 November he resigned as mayor, denying all of the corruption allegations against him.On May 9, 2013 he was arrested at his home by the police and charged with gangsterism.^[3]
• Resignation of Montreal mayor G?rald Tremblay on November 5, 2012 as a direct result of revelations made in the Commission.^[4]
• Resignation of Montreal interim-mayor Michael Applebaum on June 18, 2013 after his arrest and 14 criminal charges stemming from activities linked to companies central to the Commission's testimony.^[5]

^Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charbonneau_Commission

And none of this is what Ford is being accused of.
Nearly nothing in this situation has to do with the job Ford was doing.
They are treating him like he stole from the taxpayers.

What a misguided movement.
Trying Ford for his personal life?

[falkon]

I tend to agree with Crag on this, as I've heard the news, I was like "wtf! he didn't do anything bad job-related". We all talk about we're better than Americans and the private life of our politicians is of no concern, but as soon as one steps out of the line, the medias are on him like a pack of wolves.

LEAVE ROB ALONE!

No, seriously, this Toronto&Ontario's matter, but I'm totally uneasy at expelling someone from a public office when there are no accusations against him/her. If there's something else, the prosecutors need to press charge, otherwise the council should back off.

[Guest]

The damned media!!!!!

Hi all,

Yesterday evening, i was listening to the news on CJAD.com.

The newscaster starts talking, and as soon as he mentions Toronto's mayor, guess what he says?...guess how he leads himself into the segment about Rob Ford?

He says, "Toronto's crack-smoking mayor, Rob Ford, says..."

Can you imagine this sh*t!
Frikken media just love to ruin lives.

I like cjad but i get annoyed with the news guy who seems to always add his own personal opinions when presenting the news. Who cares what HE thinks. Do your job and say the news.
The news should be about what's happening in the world MINUS his bigoted, personal opinions.
He does that to many news stories.

Babe,
xoxo

[xoxJanexox]

Whether these allegations are true or not,
They are ELECTION issues, not reasons to lynch him prematurely.
If you don't like his record in office, don't vote for him.

Nothing you say here has anything to do with the current issue.
Vote him out or Vote him in, the rest is just BS.
Everything is blurred.

City council is 100% wrong in their actions.
They have gone past business to personal feelings and lies.

If they have the power to strip him of his powers, then your perception of what is right and wrong is irrelevant.
They said they have the power and if Ford believed that they lacked the power, he could resort to the Court!

[Shyla Wild]

If they have the power to strip him of his powers, then your perception of what is right and wrong is irrelevant.
They said they have the power and if Ford believed that they lacked the power, he could resort to the Court!

OR his supporters could rally to put pressures on the council. Where are all the supporters of the legendary Rob Ford?! I don't see them now and we hope to see "some" of them in the upcoming elections next year!

They do not have the power and they do not have the time. Under current law, a mayor can only be removed for a criminal conviction or for missing too many council meetings. By the time he would be convicted his term would be up anyway. Welcome to due process.

[xoxJanexox]

They do not have the power and they do not have the time. Under current law, a mayor can only be removed for a criminal conviction or for missing too many council meetings. By the time he would be convicted his term would be up anyway. Welcome to due process.

There is a difference between stripping him of some of his powers and removing him from office.
They claimed "specifically" to have the power because Ford threatened to go to the Court.
If they have no power, then nothing should stop Ford from seeking the Court to intervene.

[Shyla Wild]

There is a difference between stripping him of some of his powers and removing him from office.
They claimed "specifically" to have the power because Ford threatened to go to the Court.
If they have no power, then nothing should stop Ford from seeking the Court to intervene.

Proof that democracy has failed. This man was voted in by the people. Not by City council. The people wanted this man in power and now his was stripped of powers by city council? Doesn't anyone see something seriously wrong here? If council thinks he is doing a bad job, let the people decide...not a bunch of people all vying for position in government office. If he has engaged in illegal activity...why has he not been charged? If he used public funds or resources for personal use he should have been charged with political corruption. If they have evidence of drug use or hookers he should have been charged...but he wasn't was he?

Instead, they remove a mayor's powers without the consent of the people. The people of Toronto voted this man into office, and that office bypassed democracy and decided on it's own leadership.

[xoxJanexox]

Proof that democracy has failed. This man was voted in by the people. Not by City council. The people wanted this man in power and now his was stripped of powers by city council? Doesn't anyone see something seriously wrong here? If council thinks he is doing a bad job, let the people decide...not a bunch of people all vying for position in government office. If he has engaged in illegal activity...why has he not been charged? If he used public funds or resources for personal use he should have been charged with political corruption. If they have evidence of drug use or hookers he should have been charged...but he wasn't was he?

Instead, they remove a mayor's powers without the consent of the people. The people of Toronto voted this man into office, and that office bypassed democracy and decided on it's own leadership.

No democracy hasn't failed if they actually have the power to strip him of some/all of his powers.
If they have the power, then they must have this power through a legislation made by the representatives of people as well. Plain and simple.

[TSFantasia]

Presidents Are Impeached By Congress NOT A Presidential Election

Proof that democracy has failed. This man was voted in by the people. Not by City council. The people wanted this man in power and now his was stripped of powers by city council? Doesn't anyone see something seriously wrong here? If council thinks he is doing a bad job, let the people decide...not a bunch of people all vying for position in government office. If he has engaged in illegal activity...why has he not been charged? If he used public funds or resources for personal use he should have been charged with political corruption. If they have evidence of drug use or hookers he should have been charged...but he wasn't was he?

Instead, they remove a mayor's powers without the consent of the people. The people of Toronto voted this man into office, and that office bypassed democracy and decided on it's own leadership.

Leaders guilty of corruption (Senators) or involvement directly or indirectly in criminal activity(Nixon-Watergate) are impeached by votes of Congress, Parliament, Legislatures, or City Councils, which are made up of elected representatives of the people, who I'm sure are flooding them with calls, emails, etc to act in the interests of the integrity of the city, country, or institution and not to let a corrupt leader continue to rule or have power to make decisions. Rob Ford's use of crack at some party is minor really compared to his direct association with known drug dealers and gang members. If your a leader doing cocaine, crack, etc you get some flunky to go discreetly and get you some. This is Fing ridiculous! Throw him out NOW! The man is disgracing and making an international joke and mockery of both City Council & the City of Toronto. The people who do not want to see the drug trade flourish and directly and indirectly destroy the lives of thousands of it's citizens and children sure as hell do NOT want a man representing their cities, who is seen smoking crack with drug dealers and gang members!