Tia Phoenixx: "Tranny Mafia" does exist!- my real experience

[TSd8]

I think you missed the point Tia

The $52K per year is what the one client would spend and not what a provider would make. Naturally if 10 clients spent the same amount to one provider then the provider would gross $520K per year but would be providing 40 hrs per week of service..... I know that you got this now, .... but am curious as to who is still lost.


TSD8

$52K in a year?
Depending on which country and city we live in. that income is low IMHO, especially for us who live in big metropolitan city like Toronto, NYC, London, Tokyo, Paris...
You have to live frugally if you are in London, LA or NYC with that income

a popular mid to high end escort (tgirl escort is included) can easily earn that in a month.

I don;t have any yacht, but i'm doing fine.
How many people can have a yacht and private jet anyway?

[Tia Phoenixx]

The $52K per year is what the one client would spend and not what a provider would make. Naturally if 10 clients spent the same amount to one provider then the provider would gross $520K per year but would be providing 40 hrs per week of service..... I know that you got this now, .... but am curious as to who is still lost.


TSD8

true, i'm sorry. As you could tell, i did not read it properly. I'm always on the go doing lots of things.

Now, i have more time to reply:

Yes, I think rider014 referred to point one on the article.
Actually, those escorts who are popular and well established can have 4 clients in a day easily thus the gross income of a popular escort can be $520K per annum as you already mentioned.

No, I don't earn that much btw.
I could probably if i'm willing to work 10 to 12 months non stop. But no thanks, i want my private life too.

thanks for the correction TSD8

[TSd8]

forgot one thing

your quote..."I don;t have any yacht, but i'm doing fine.
How many people can have a yacht and private jet anyway?"

It's a big industry google "netjets" or yacht charters Monacco.

Not to worry....you'll get there

[Tia Phoenixx]

your quote..."I don;t have any yacht, but i'm doing fine.
How many people can have a yacht and private jet anyway?"

It's a big industry google "netjets" or yacht charters Monacco.

Not to worry....you'll get there

gosh, you are right i guess the industry is booming. There are more and more nouveau richs on the market.
Talking about private jet, i did hire one before.
It cost me $14,7K from Atlanta to Toronto last year, including one pilot, and one paramedic.

Yes, that was the time when i had to be transferred from US to Canada due to my accident.
I was not insured in the US so i have to pay so much money for my hospital fee (plus the private jet)
Thanks God...I'm ok now.

And last but not least, oh...I hope i will be there someday.

I'm just waiting for Chris to call me (joke!) lol

[TSFantasia]

true, i'm sorry. As you could tell, i did not read it properly. I'm always on the go doing lots of things.

Now, i have more time to reply:

Yes, I think rider014 referred to point one on the article.
Actually, those escorts who are popular and well established can have 4 clients in a day easily thus the gross income of a popular escort can be $520K per annum as you already mentioned.

No, I don't earn that much btw.
I could probably if i'm willing to work 10 to 12 months non stop. But no thanks, i want my private life too.

thanks for the correction TSD8

I don't think any escort easily achieves an income of 500K+ a year. Even if a popular escort does 4 appts a day and averages $250 per apt at $1000/day working non-stop 365 days a year that's still only 365K. This would involve travelling and living in hotels ALL the time. No social life, no family life, no sick days, no holidays, etc, etc. I'm sure even in the larger centres where there is more competion it would be hard for even the most popular girls to maintain that pace. Though I'm not the Auditor General the numbers don't add up. 100-200K I could see and for the girls travelling all the time that's $1000-1500/wk hotel, meals, and travel expenses. So deduct 50-75K in expenses and of course they are all paying taxes...LOL so there goes another 40% . I've had a dry hacking cough for 2 weeks so I don't take appts. How am I supposed to give a guy a decent BJ or any kind of sex session when I have to stop every 5 mins to hack up a lung. If a girl is having 4-6 appts a day and allowing kissing, DFK in most then there is no way to avoid these colds and flu viruses. So I guess they carry on with runny noses, hacking coughs, and sore throats anyways . What else can you do your flights, hotels, and schedules are all booked.

[TSd8]

Too funny Fantasia

The original "fantasy math" was on a 40 hour work week at $250. per hour. It didn't account for "LIFE", or sick leave....etc.

It was your basic "sweat shop" kind of work week.

You're hilarious

[TSFantasia]

The original "fantasy math" was on a 40 hour work week at $250. per hour. It didn't account for "LIFE", or sick leave....etc.

It was your basic "sweat shop" kind of work week.

You're hilarious

Thanks I'm glad that I can amuse you I was thinking of being in stand up comedy but it didn't work out as I was the only one laughing at my jokes . I was more responding to the statement that mid to high popular escorts are "easily" making this kind of money.

[rider014]

The $52K per year is what the one client would spend and not what a provider would make. Naturally if 10 clients spent the same amount to one provider then the provider would gross $520K per year but would be providing 40 hrs per week of service..... I know that you got this now, .... but am curious as to who is still lost.


TSD8

52K per year by 1 client? Fuck I want his job lol. I'll clear all this up here(I hope). I was just using some numbers that were comparable to the career salaries in the article and what an escort would have to do to earn roughly the same amount as these average careers. Really not a lot. The yacht and jet comment wasn't the escorts owning these items, more so the clients, that are enjoyed by the escorts. Overall the main question was, what percentage of escorts overall make the big money and enjoy the highlife perks? The math done by Fantasia makes sense, and that's a lot of servicing to make that kind of money

[xoxJanexox]

I don't think any escort easily achieves an income of 500K+ a year. Even if a popular escort does 4 appts a day and averages $250 per apt at $1000/day working non-stop 365 days a year that's still only 365K. This would involve travelling and living in hotels ALL the time. No social life, no family life, no sick days, no holidays, etc, etc. I'm sure even in the larger centres where there is more competion it would be hard for even the most popular girls to maintain that pace. Though I'm not the Auditor General the numbers don't add up. 100-200K I could see and for the girls travelling all the time that's $1000-1500/wk hotel, meals, and travel expenses. So deduct 50-75K in expenses and of course they are all paying taxes...LOL so there goes another 40% . I've had a dry hacking cough for 2 weeks so I don't take appts. How am I supposed to give a guy a decent BJ or any kind of sex session when I have to stop every 5 mins to hack up a lung. If a girl is having 4-6 appts a day and allowing kissing, DFK in most then there is no way to avoid these colds and flu viruses. So I guess they carry on with runny noses, hacking coughs, and sore throats anyways . What else can you do your flights, hotels, and schedules are all booked.

Cosign.

[Tia Phoenixx]

I don't think any escort easily achieves an income of 500K+ a year. Even if a popular escort does 4 appts a day and averages $250 per apt at $1000/day working non-stop 365 days a year that's still only 365K. This would involve travelling and living in hotels ALL the time. No social life, no family life, no sick days, no holidays, etc, etc. I'm sure even in the larger centres where there is more competion it would be hard for even the most popular girls to maintain that pace. Though I'm not the Auditor General the numbers don't add up. 100-200K I could see and for the girls travelling all the time that's $1000-1500/wk hotel, meals, and travel expenses. So deduct 50-75K in expenses and of course they are all paying taxes...LOL so there goes another 40% . I've had a dry hacking cough for 2 weeks so I don't take appts. How am I supposed to give a guy a decent BJ or any kind of sex session when I have to stop every 5 mins to hack up a lung. If a girl is having 4-6 appts a day and allowing kissing, DFK in most then there is no way to avoid these colds and flu viruses. So I guess they carry on with runny noses, hacking coughs, and sore throats anyways . What else can you do your flights, hotels, and schedules are all booked.

here is the truth of life of a popular mid to high end escort:
1. Popular escorts stay and live in big cities where the buying power is high
2. In North America, in other to maintain the high demand they often travel
3. and here we go: they do not charge $250 lol. remember that we are talking about an escort who is in demand.
Based on the article, the average hourly rate is $280 an hour. the popular one charges more than that.
4. Popular escort tend to see 6 to 10 clients a day.
I have a true story to share:
once upon a time, a tgirl escort arrived in NJ in 2009. There were 32 men wanted to see her in a day. Yes 32 men! Of course, she couldn't have 32 men, but she saw 12 of them, and it was more than enough lol (btw, everybody was happy!)
5. Popular escort tend to have multiple hours booking, day booking, overnight even weekend or week booking.
Remember that they are successful, not only because they are pretty, but also they are smart, energetic, engaging, having a good communication skills, knowing how to treat their clients and last but not the least, they must have a great stamina due to their healthy life style.

6. Here is the example of a daily life of a popular to high end escort:
1. 7 am wake up, get breakfast, working out at a gym.
2. 9 am start having first client of vip of 400, finished by 10.15 am.
3. 12 pm to 3 pm, 3 hours lunch date of 1000
4. 5 pm having a third client for a vip of 400, finished by 6 pm
5. Tired, check e-mail or PM, and choose the cutest boy to entertain her by night. Pick one: a nice boy of 23 years old, 6'2, 200 lbs, broud shouldered, masculine, and naturally athletic, and love to top and pamper. Agreed for 200 for 8 pm appointment. Hot sex, last till 10 pm
6. 10 pm time to go to bed. Total income of the day: 2000, with only 4 clients.

Life is good , at least at the moment.

Saving and planning for the future is the key of successful escort. Remember this is only a short term career. They are on the peak when they are in their 20s or 30s, and after that their career starts to decline

time to go to gym. Orlando here i come!
www.tia-phoenixx.com/schedule

cheers
Tia

[Tia Phoenixx]

here is the truth of life of a popular mid to high end escort:
1. Popular escorts stay and live in big cities where the buying power is high
2. In North America, in other to maintain the high demand they often travel
3. and here we go: they do not charge $250 lol. remember that we are talking about an escort who is in demand.
Based on the article, the average hourly rate is $280 an hour. the popular one charges more than that.
4. Popular escort tend to see 6 to 10 clients a day.
I have a true story to share:
once upon a time, a tgirl escort arrived in NJ in 2009. There were 32 men wanted to see her in a day. Yes 32 men! Of course, she couldn't have 32 men, but she saw 12 of them, and it was more than enough lol (btw, everybody was happy!)
5. Popular escort tend to have multiple hours booking, day booking, overnight even weekend or week booking.
Remember that they are successful, not only because they are pretty, but also they are smart, energetic, engaging, having a good communication skills, knowing how to treat their clients and last but not the least, they must have a great stamina due to their healthy life style.

6. Here is the example of a daily life of a popular to high end escort:
1. 7 am wake up, get breakfast, working out at a gym.
2. 9 am start having first client of vip of 400, finished by 10.15 am.
3. 12 pm to 3 pm, 3 hours lunch date of 1000
4. 5 pm having a third client for a vip of 400, finished by 6 pm
5. Tired, check e-mail or PM, and choose the cutest boy to entertain her by night. Pick one: a nice boy of 23 years old, 6'2, 200 lbs, broud shouldered, masculine, and naturally athletic, and love to top and pamper. Agreed for 200 for 8 pm appointment. Hot sex, last till 10 pm
6. 10 pm time to go to bed. Total income of the day: 2000, with only 4 clients.

Life is good , at least at the moment.

Saving and planning for the future is the key of successful escort. Remember this is only a short term career. They are on the peak when they are in their 20s or 30s, and after that their career starts to decline

time to go to gym. Orlando here i come!
www.tia-phoenixx.com/schedule

cheers
Tia

and if you notice the example of her life, there are one or two hours breaks here and there. That time is used for relaxing: swimming, enjoying outside, shopping, meeting friends (if any), etc. One hour is needed to check and reply to e-mail, do advanced booking and market herself (posting ad, replying to the board like this, etc).

Now, let's get back to reality:
not everybody can be a successful escort. The success rate is pretty low.
First and foremost you have to be attractive, outgoing and love sex.
then, you have to be smart and engaging,
then, you have to get used to different set up, environment and different people (men).

At the end of the day, only one out of 10 girls or even less can enjoy comfortable life. So only 10% or less girls who are successful.
Therefore i don;t recommend this as a profession unless if you have what it takes to be successful.

good luck girls, mommy has shared her secret. Now time to fly again, and make money (and have fun! It's Florida baby!)

[TSFantasia]

Lifestyles of the Rich and Fabulous

Well definitely Tia I do believe that the younger, beautiful,gorgeous (not pretty those are a dime a dozen) travelling escorts are capable and do make that kind of money and are in the 500K to 1 Meelllllliiion Dollars (Ok get your pinkie out of the corner of your mouth as Dr. Evil is still the only one who can really pull off that look...LOL). These are the supermodels with dicks sewn on. These are the girls who the rich and famous choose for their T-girl fantasy and to whom 15K for a weekend is pocket change. These are the girls who are being flown to the Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Dubai to be on the arm and knob of the successful and rich all week. (NO I'm NOT jealous, no I'm not jealous, no I'm not jealous........DAMN IT IM FUCKIN JEALOUS..) .

And in this part of the escort industry (T-girl) looks, stamina, personality, business sense, and endowments all come into play. I don't have any official numbers but I'm sure the bottoms outnumber the tops in the client department. This gives a definite marketing advantage to those who are well endowed as the more a guy bottoms the bigger the dick he craves! I can see why a lot of girls exaggerate in this area as they are trying to compete with the monster cocks. A lot of these girls are bottoms and so they should be most trans women are not going through all these surgeries, HRT, etc. to be the man in the relationship. But out of business necessity they need to advertise as versatile and pop what ever pills they need to for the "Hard the entire session" score on their reviews. I see these and laugh "Chemical erection"! Being "Hard with constant attention" is the norm not just for the girls but for the clients as well.

The T-girl escort landscape keeps changing and becoming more populated partly out of demand and partly out of new girls jumping on the bandwagon. I'm sure even since I started posting ads on SMC in early 2011 that the number of girls has doubled (Crag may have the exact numbers). So back to your original posting as competition becomes more fierce (more girls fighting over the same client appts and dollars) the more cut throat ,"mafia" style tactics a travelling girl can expect to see.

[rider014]

Lots! Maybe?

Last time I counted there were 700 on SMC alone, just in Canada! Thanks for explaining a common "day in the life", cuz when you live in an igloo, have a pet polar bear named Peety, and rely on seals to transport my computer 100 miles just to get a signal, being in the "know" of how things are become alien

[xoxJanexox]

and if you notice the example of her life, there are one or two hours breaks here and there. That time is used for relaxing: swimming, enjoying outside, shopping, meeting friends (if any), etc. One hour is needed to check and reply to e-mail, do advanced booking and market herself (posting ad, replying to the board like this, etc).

Now, let's get back to reality:
not everybody can be a successful escort. The success rate is pretty low.
First and foremost you have to be attractive, outgoing and love sex.
then, you have to be smart and engaging,
then, you have to get used to different set up, environment and different people (men).

At the end of the day, only one out of 10 girls or even less can enjoy comfortable life. So only 10% or less girls who are successful.
Therefore i don;t recommend this as a profession unless if you have what it takes to be successful.

good luck girls, mommy has shared her secret. Now time to fly again, and make money (and have fun! It's Florida baby!)

I am trying to get the numbers here straight because they seem to be difficult to digest.

Do you mean that 10% of the escorts are successful? Of course using what I understood as "successful" to your terms (i.e, making 500 K/year)?

If this is your position, then I would disagree. I am not here engaging with your own numbers but I am trying to give the reader some helpful information.

I am a member in one of the private lounges where most of the high end escorts in Canada are there. I wont divulge any personal information, but there was at one point a discussion about the volumes and you would be surprised that most would entertain handful of clients per week only. There are different reasons for that, maintaining a demand is an issue and maintaining quality is another concern as well.

You make it sound as if escorts work like FEDEX in a way. In the post #55, you stated that a successful escort would see 6 - 10 clients per day. Now the average person can just imagine the level of quality of the session at such numbers on daily basis. We are talking here about highly intimate profession.

If we just take the lowest number (6 clients per day) we are talking about 6 hrs per minimum of intimate time. A quality companion won't do back to back for many reasons (discretion is one) and it would be reasonable to see 1 hr between the sessions to be expected. So we are talking in total about 12 hrs out of 24 hrs!

Now what would be the picture for the escort seeing 10 clients per day on a steady base, if one to believe that such a demand exists on a "constant" basis.

The second point is what you describe a successful and high demand. I don't perceive my numbers when I am visiting Toronto, for example, as an indication of my demand. If I spend there 6-8 days per year and I can't generate enough clientele, then I should call it a quit.

Could be there very few escorts making the numbers you cited, possibly there are but they are "very very few" and no where near 10%. If you want to talk about the Canadian market, we have hundreds of girls advertising so we should at least have tens in the the category you have described. We should also see some comparable level of lifestyles, marketing, and wealth. A quick look at Shemale Canada should give anyone a good idea!

[Tia Phoenixx]

Well definitely Tia I do believe that the younger, beautiful,gorgeous (not pretty those are a dime a dozen) travelling escorts are capable and do make that kind of money and are in the 500K to 1 Meelllllliiion Dollars (Ok get your pinkie out of the corner of your mouth as Dr. Evil is still the only one who can really pull off that look...LOL). These are the supermodels with dicks sewn on. These are the girls who the rich and famous choose for their T-girl fantasy and to whom 15K for a weekend is pocket change. These are the girls who are being flown to the Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Dubai to be on the arm and knob of the successful and rich all week. (NO I'm NOT jealous, no I'm not jealous, no I'm not jealous........DAMN IT IM FUCKIN JEALOUS..) .

And in this part of the escort industry (T-girl) looks, stamina, personality, business sense, and endowments all come into play. I don't have any official numbers but I'm sure the bottoms outnumber the tops in the client department. This gives a definite marketing advantage to those who are well endowed as the more a guy bottoms the bigger the dick he craves! I can see why a lot of girls exaggerate in this area as they are trying to compete with the monster cocks. A lot of these girls are bottoms and so they should be most trans women are not going through all these surgeries, HRT, etc. to be the man in the relationship. But out of business necessity they need to advertise as versatile and pop what ever pills they need to for the "Hard the entire session" score on their reviews. I see these and laugh "Chemical erection"! Being "Hard with constant attention" is the norm not just for the girls but for the clients as well.

The T-girl escort landscape keeps changing and becoming more populated partly out of demand and partly out of new girls jumping on the bandwagon. I'm sure even since I started posting ads on SMC in early 2011 that the number of girls has doubled (Crag may have the exact numbers). So back to your original posting as competition becomes more fierce (more girls fighting over the same client appts and dollars) the more cut throat ,"mafia" style tactics a travelling girl can expect to see.

lol...you are funny.

i agree with you to some points, but disagree with you at some points.

If we look at merely tgirl escorts: that's true there are some men who love girls with big cocks, but also there are some men who love girls who are simply feminine and beautiful (and bottom). So if we are good at we do, there will be always a client for us.
Therefore, i disagree if those who have big dicks will be more in demand that those who don't for instance.

The key of a successful escort is: the combination of everything: beauty (including her physical attributes), performance, appearance and social skills, and one last thing: confidence. If we believe in ourselves and know our strengths we will be fine

I have client in 40 minutes, but I will reply to you tomorrow morning hon