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    Anyone who lives outside of "Central" Canada (Ontario & Quebec) can see "Eastern Arrogance" as plain as day. Those living there are mystified by this perception. Everyone living there knows that the rest of Canada only exists to fuel their needs. Fishing, agriculture, mining, oil & gas from the Maritimes, Prairie Provinces, and British Columbia. I mean nice places to visit but who would actually want to live their right? Just dumb farmers, fishermen, and tree huggers? No sane person would really want to leave the centre of "civilized, sophisticated " Canada to live in the uncivilized wilderness of Canada's East, West,and North?
    While it may not be to the same extremes as to how the old USSR subjugated and drained their Soviet satellite countries to make their Russian citizens think Communism was providing a utopian society for them while at the same time impoverishing the satellites. But the perceptions on both sides are similar and at times have fuelled separatist movements by those sick of "Eastern arrogance".

    I think my first post or response to a post on this forum was to some ones enquiry as to whether there were any good T-Girl SPs in Regina? To which someone from I don' t know where replied, "Wait for the travelling girls all the local girls are garbage" . My next one was in response to the first review someone submitted on me, ( I just stuck my head in the door here in July and started telling clients to check it out and submit a review if they liked) and some of the guys, who LIVE on here (I wonder from where?),attacked as a "shill" because it was a new member with a 1st post review giving a 10/10 ratings. Of course the rationale being if a guy doesn't live on here comes on to submit a review and has no further interest in being involved on a T-girl forum then he must not exist. Then I see guys who have been on here forever and are still talking about taking the plunge into seeing a T-girl SP. I think the implication was also that there could not possibly be a decent looking T-girl SP, who actually lived outside of Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal...heaven forbid!

    Then a client who has seen me a few times does become actively involved and he doesn't really exist either! Then along time client of mine "finally" submits a review of me and makes a few comments about me on a few of my posts and a "central" SP makes a comment (out of the blue 15 mins after my client posted remarks) in the chat box about Lincoln saying "You can fool some people some of the time....." which didn't relate to anything in the chat box. So YEAH I got that implication too! And Tia Phoenix talks about the "Tranny Mafia" in NYC! LOL.

    So the moral of the story is that there are no real T-Girl SPs in Sask. and no real clients either. And all the guys in Sask. should wait for the real T-girls to arrive from the East or even better yet for you shell-shocked Korean & Vietnam vets wait for the invading masses from the far east, cuz Asian girls with black soulless eyes (like looking into an aliens eyes)are the real pretty ones.
    Anyways that's just my little experience with "eastern arrogance" Feel free to take this post in whatever political, religious, socio-economic direction you like. I'm all about making new friends on here!
    *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

  • #2
    Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
    Anyone who lives outside of "Central" Canada (Ontario & Quebec) can see "Eastern Arrogance" as plain as day. Those living there are mystified by this perception. Everyone living there knows that the rest of Canada only exists to fuel their needs. Fishing, agriculture, mining, oil & gas from the Maritimes, Prairie Provinces, and British Columbia. I mean nice places to visit but who would actually want to live their right? Just dumb farmers, fishermen, and tree huggers? No sane person would really want to leave the centre of "civilized, sophisticated " Canada to live in the uncivilized wilderness of Canada's East, West,and North?
    While it may not be to the same extremes as to how the old USSR subjugated and drained their Soviet satellite countries to make their Russian citizens think Communism was providing a utopian society for them while at the same time impoverishing the satellites. But the perceptions on both sides are similar and at times have fuelled separatist movements by those sick of "Eastern arrogance".

    I think my first post or response to a post on this forum was to some ones enquiry as to whether there were any good T-Girl SPs in Regina? To which someone from I don' t know where replied, "Wait for the travelling girls all the local girls are garbage" . My next one was in response to the first review someone submitted on me, ( I just stuck my head in the door here in July and started telling clients to check it out and submit a review if they liked) and some of the guys, who LIVE on here (I wonder from where?),attacked as a "shill" because it was a new member with a 1st post review giving a 10/10 ratings. Of course the rationale being if a guy doesn't live on here comes on to submit a review and has no further interest in being involved on a T-girl forum then he must not exist. Then I see guys who have been on here forever and are still talking about taking the plunge into seeing a T-girl SP. I think the implication was also that there could not possibly be a decent looking T-girl SP, who actually lived outside of Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal...heaven forbid!

    Then a client who has seen me a few times does become actively involved and he doesn't really exist either! Then along time client of mine "finally" submits a review of me and makes a few comments about me on a few of my posts and a "central" SP makes a comment (out of the blue 15 mins after my client posted remarks) in the chat box about Lincoln saying "You can fool some people some of the time....." which didn't relate to anything in the chat box. So YEAH I got that implication too! And Tia Phoenix talks about the "Tranny Mafia" in NYC! LOL.

    So the moral of the story is that there are no real T-Girl SPs in Sask. and no real clients either. And all the guys in Sask. should wait for the real T-girls to arrive from the East or even better yet for you shell-shocked Korean & Vietnam vets wait for the invading masses from the far east, cuz Asian girls with black soulless eyes (like looking into an aliens eyes)are the real pretty ones.
    Anyways that's just my little experience with "eastern arrogance" Feel free to take this post in whatever political, religious, socio-economic direction you like. I'm all about making new friends on here!

    well said, I remember my fist review on here.....I was called a shill and they accused the girl of writing her own review....I am from Toronto but I do travel a lot. In recent years I have spent a lot of time n NFLD and think it is a great place to live and work and last summer I visited Winnipeg on my vacation and really had a great time. I think eastern arrogance may exist politically and by some but for an average guy like me I love all of Canada. It is a great country with great people from coast to coast.

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    • #3
      Eastern arrogance

      Fantasia, first let me say I'm not stalking you and I do have a life outside of this forum. I have some time off work which means time on my hands

      The first review I had done someone also wrote that my review was total bs. Personally I thought it was very good, it was an honest, nicely written review. Whatever that name calling thing is "sill" or whatever, I don't know what that means.

      Politically...I'm originally from Nova Scotia but served 30 years in the Canadian Forces and have lived across this country and several United Nations tours. I spent 3 to 5 years in each of PEI, NB, ON, MB (5 in Winnipeg, Royal Canadian Regiment and PPCLI, loved it, love the people!) AB (2 tours 4 years in Cgy 5 in Edm) and finally Yukon Territory. Believe me, in the messes and watering holes of the military bases I've heard it all. From the west separatists to the Quebec referendum, soldiers and civilians alike I heard it all. Being from the Atlantic Provinces I endured much belittling and name calling from people from the "have" provinces. Being fit and able bodied i wasn't shy to shut some of them up or take my licks (not in a literal sense:=) trying. But that's another story. The bs of Canadians thinking they're better than other Canadians makes me nuts but it's there and it's real. I'm working the oil patch now and recently worked with a guy from the peg telling me his biggest concern for the job was working with maritimers, he was sick of it. Not knowing I was from there originally I told him "man, pick your fuckin poison...Canadians from the east or Somali or Filipino immigrants!? Otherwise shut the fuck up." He said "I never thought of it that way." Even tho he could probably kick my ass he did shut the fuck up.

      That's my take on this Atlantic/East/West story. We tend to look down at our own people while kissing the asses of others. Every other country saying oh those nice polite Canadians! Then we treat our own like crap. Guess what? That's not me! Lol

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      • #4
        I think you are letting an extremely small group of people get to you.
        You are also projecting stuff that probably has zero to do with you.

        One person said there was crappy local girls, maybe the last time that person saw anyone it was true.
        The fact is, there was very very few TS providers in Saskatchewan period until the last few years.
        Visiting girls did not even go there because there was no where to advertise.
        Now that the internet has better coverage, things have changed.

        There is also little to do with Eastern discrimination.
        Guys come on here and say all the girls in Toronto suck and you should go to Montreal.
        This is one persons opinion.
        One guy posts that a review is a schill, so what?
        But the fact is there is there is some tgirls in the East that have no equal in Sask due to their fame or otherwise.
        (but fame doesn't necessarily make you a good escort)

        There is really no reason for these people to call all new posters schills other than they are probably kissing some girls butt.
        You put alot of the blame on individual guys, when I think you are more better to blame the girls that may control the schill alarmists.
        There is certain people that seem to call schill alot, and those people are really wasting their breath and looking ridiculous at the same time.
        Everyone can judge for themselves, and everyone can count to one.
        So if someone has one post and puts a review well everyone reading that review can see they have one post.
        I do not understand why some whipper snapper has to come and point it out to us?
        Right?

        So what I would say is you people should be confronting the confronters more.
        It is only by getting upset and not coming back and replying that these people and their sponsors win.
        If you are called a schill and you come back and reply with confidence and the go on to be good members,
        the bullies just look like stupid whiners.

        Years ago there was alot of cheating and fakers and schills.
        Those people all know who they are.
        Some older members still remember this time, which may fuel this attitude.
        Now there is very few and there is many controls against fake profiles.

        The moral here is:
        Don't take one persons comment so seriously.
        Stick up for yourself on these, don't just take it.
        It is only one person among thousands that view this forum daily.

        If you think someone is unfairly harassing you with doubting posts like this,
        report the post to Admin and make your case.

        The schill thing seems to be a right of passage around here with some older members.
        I hope it is fading with newer ones.

        ladyboy.reviews

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        • #5
          To schill or not to schill

          So, what's a schill?

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          • #6
            Products of Our Environment

            Originally posted by Gypsy1955 View Post
            Fantasia, first let me say I'm not stalking you and I do have a life outside of this forum. I have some time off work which means time on my hands

            The first review I had done someone also wrote that my review was total bs. Personally I thought it was very good, it was an honest, nicely written review. Whatever that name calling thing is "sill" or whatever, I don't know what that means.

            Politically...I'm originally from Nova Scotia but served 30 years in the Canadian Forces and have lived across this country and several United Nations tours. I spent 3 to 5 years in each of PEI, NB, ON, MB (5 in Winnipeg, Royal Canadian Regiment and PPCLI, loved it, love the people!) AB (2 tours 4 years in Cgy 5 in Edm) and finally Yukon Territory. Believe me, in the messes and watering holes of the military bases I've heard it all. From the west separatists to the Quebec referendum, soldiers and civilians alike I heard it all. Being from the Atlantic Provinces I endured much belittling and name calling from people from the "have" provinces. Being fit and able bodied i wasn't shy to shut some of them up or take my licks (not in a literal sense:=) trying. But that's another story. The bs of Canadians thinking they're better than other Canadians makes me nuts but it's there and it's real. I'm working the oil patch now and recently worked with a guy from the peg telling me his biggest concern for the job was working with maritimers, he was sick of it. Not knowing I was from there originally I told him "man, pick your fuckin poison...Canadians from the east or Somali or Filipino immigrants!? Otherwise shut the fuck up." He said "I never thought of it that way." Even tho he could probably kick my ass he did shut the fuck up.

            That's my take on this Atlantic/East/West story. We tend to look down at our own people while kissing the asses of others. Every other country saying oh those nice polite Canadians! Then we treat our own like crap. Guess what? That's not me! Lol
            Well in a previous job I had (not escorting) I had the opportunity to travel and work in most of the main cities from Vancouver Island (Victoria to Nanaimo) in the West to Montreal in the East. I did meet and work with a lot of great people from West to East and with the nature of my work was in a lot of people's homes. There were a few arrogant pricks in each area ,so definitely no area has cornered the market on arrogance. People are the product of their environment and upbringing. If we are brought up in an intolerant or racist home or home whereof people in other parts of the country are put down as somehow sub-standard then chances are we will have some of the same attitudes. Probably the arrogance of Central Canada is more of a political distinction over transfer payments, crow rates, subsidies, etc. And of course having the highest population density and therefore bigger political clout is going to be perceived as getting favoured over the rest of Canada. I suppose that only makes sense more votes gets the politicians/bankers/ power brokers attention.
            Last edited by TSFantasia; 12-19-2013, 09:25 AM.
            *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
              I think you are letting an extremely small group of people get to you.
              You are also projecting stuff that probably has zero to do with you.

              One person said there was crappy local girls, maybe the last time that person saw anyone it was true.
              The fact is, there was very very few TS providers in Saskatchewan period until the last few years.
              Visiting girls did not even go there because there was no where to advertise.
              Now that the internet has better coverage, things have changed.

              There is also little to do with Eastern discrimination.
              Guys come on here and say all the girls in Toronto suck and you should go to Montreal.
              This is one persons opinion.
              One guy posts that a review is a schill, so what?
              But the fact is there is there is some tgirls in the East that have no equal in Sask due to their fame or otherwise.
              (but fame doesn't necessarily make you a good escort)

              There is really no reason for these people to call all new posters schills other than they are probably kissing some girls butt.
              You put alot of the blame on individual guys, when I think you are more better to blame the girls that may control the schill alarmists.
              There is certain people that seem to call schill alot, and those people are really wasting their breath and looking ridiculous at the same time.
              Everyone can judge for themselves, and everyone can count to one.
              So if someone has one post and puts a review well everyone reading that review can see they have one post.
              I do not understand why some whipper snapper has to come and point it out to us?
              Right?

              So what I would say is you people should be confronting the confronters more.
              It is only by getting upset and not coming back and replying that these people and their sponsors win.
              If you are called a schill and you come back and reply with confidence and the go on to be good members,
              the bullies just look like stupid whiners.

              Years ago there was alot of cheating and fakers and schills.
              Those people all know who they are.
              Some older members still remember this time, which may fuel this attitude.
              Now there is very few and there is many controls against fake profiles.

              The moral here is:
              Don't take one persons comment so seriously.
              Stick up for yourself on these, don't just take it.
              It is only one person among thousands that view this forum daily.

              If you think someone is unfairly harassing you with doubting posts like this,
              report the post to Admin and make your case.

              The schill thing seems to be a right of passage around here with some older members.
              I hope it is fading with newer ones.

              I don't take it too seriously just had to start another post . I think I did reply to the critics so yes I don't go sit in a corner and
              cry or sulk. The new kid on the block always has to prove themselves on the playground
              *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gypsy1955 View Post
                So, what's a schill?
                Apparently it is a cool word to say,
                but not a cool word to be.



                ladyboy.reviews

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                  Well in a previous job I had (not escorting) I had the opportunity to travel and work in most of the main cities from Vancouver Island (Victoria to Nanaimo) in the West to Montreal in the East. I did meet and work with a lot of great people from West to East and with the nature of my work was in a lot of people's homes. There were a few arrogant pricks in each area ,so definitely no area has cornered the market on arrogance. People are the product of their environment and upbringing. If we are brought up in an intolerant or racist home or home with people in other parts of the country are put down as somehow sub-standard then chances are we will have some of the same attitudes. Probably the arrogance of Central Canada is more of a political distinction over transfer payments, crow rates, subsidies, etc. And of course having the highest population density and therefore bigger political clout is going to be perceived as getting favoured over the rest Canada. I suppose that only makes sense more votes gets the politicians/bankers/ power brokers attention.
                  I got carried away. The separate areas of Canada is a sore point with me whether it be about our women (we, Canada, have the most beautiful in the world), bad jokes about people from another province...of which I don't participate, jealousy of another's success, happy of another's failure not in the fact that they had the heart to try something, buying votes or any other unfavourable act. But I like your balls!! Again, not in a literal sense because I haven't seen them You're up to the task!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gypsy1955 View Post
                    I got carried away. The separate areas of Canada is a sore point with me whether it be about our women (we, Canada, have the most beautiful in the world), bad jokes about people from another province...of which I don't participate, jealousy of another's success, happy of another's failure not in the fact that they had the heart to try something, buying votes or any other unfavourable act. But I like your balls!! Again, not in a literal sense because I haven't seen them You're up to the task!
                    There is gems in every province!

                    Just imagine though, if Quebec was where Saskatchewan is, and Sask was where Quebec is.
                    The country might be in balance.

                    The fact is, the population and the wealth is starting to shift west.
                    Ontario has lost it's manufacturing glory and Quebec lost it's glory in 1977.
                    The west is the new hope.

                    ladyboy.reviews

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                    • #11
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                      • #12
                        Go green and white...again

                        Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                        There is gems in every province!

                        Just imagine though, if Quebec was where Saskatchewan is, and Sask was where Quebec is.
                        The country might be in balance.

                        The fact is, the population and the wealth is starting to shift west.
                        Ontario has lost it's manufacturing glory and Quebec lost it's glory in 1977.
                        The west is the new hope.

                        I just think the east is still a little choked that WE WON THE GREY CUP!!
                        Being non existent as well isn't such a bad thing... I just wish I was a little more non existent around income tax time

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rider014 View Post
                          I just think the east is still a little choked that WE WON THE GREY CUP!!
                          Being non existent as well isn't such a bad thing... I just wish I was a little more non existent around income tax time
                          for Atlantic Canadians the shift west began generations ago although the swing picked up speed the last 40 years or more. Some of my ancestors and many others moved to AB in the late 1800's to work construction when downtown Calgary and Edmonton still had dirt roads. Not to mention the gold rush. North America has to get back to doing its own manufacturing rather than buying all the junk and bad foods from China. Then our oil and gas going to our southern neighbours for processing and sold back to us at an extremely overinflated price.

                          Fantasia, keep up the good work! Obviously educated and very bright with a little warped sense of humour poking through...gotta love it! Lol

                          Who won the Grey Cup Seriously haha!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                            There is gems in every province!

                            Just imagine though, if Quebec was where Saskatchewan is, and Sask was where Quebec is.
                            The country might be in balance.

                            The fact is, the population and the wealth is starting to shift west.
                            Ontario has lost it's manufacturing glory and Quebec lost it's glory in 1977.
                            The west is the new hope.

                            Manitoba does and always will suck

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                            • #15
                              There is not Eastern Arrogance. Its called hate. People hate what is different than them. Country folk insult the way city folk live their lives and vise versa. Also, people commenting that something is better elsewhere, fall into "The Grass is not always greener on the other side."

                              This board is tough and you are new here. There will be more attacks, that I can promise you. Every girl has to deal with some online issue at one point or another. You cannot control what people say or what other think about you.....the only thing you control is your reaction.

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