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  • Like a boss!!!

    Originally posted by crag rockheart View Post
    so you come on my thread about my trip and make a comment just because i disagreed with you, then you call me every name in the book?
    I represent a real person with my real pictures on this thread. I have never seen any reports from you on trips or otherwise.
    You are hiding behind a fake username calling me down with idea whether you have even been there?
    I'm just trying to offer a true view of thailand and having fun with ladyboys,
    if you like to hunker down in your hotel room and pay them 2 or 3 times the going rate, that is your business but certainly not the norm in thailand.
    But don't come on here and spit and spew venom, when have i done that to you?

    Then to say i know nothing, someone that has visited thailand 20 times, married one ladyboy and engaged to another.
    Countless trip reports here verifying everything i have done there.
    I have a degree in business majoring in accounting and economics.
    I have as degree in computer science and have worked as a business analyst in a major corporation for 18 years.
    For nearly 20 years i have been involved with ladyboys and escorts, including owning hundreds of websites dedicated to the topic.
    Meeting thousands of ladyboys and friend with dozens, and i don't know anything about supply and demand? Really?

    You said you spent 1 month in nana, but i suspect you meant bangkok. Nana is a 4 block square area with the entertainment plaza in the middle.
    It is mostly bars and discos with a few hotels and restaurants.
    There is no multiple layers in nana, there is bar girls and there is street girls.

    The other layers you talk about are escort agencies and the internet, which are not the same thing.
    There is no market in white european or american tgirls really in thailand, sure some guys like them but most are coming there looking for thai ladyboys.
    Foreign tgirls cannot replicate the experience of a good thai ladyboy, it is in their upbringing.
    The demand for foreign tgirls in thailand is inelastic there just isn't that much. Who would it be that is demanding them?
    You can say there is demand for crucifixs in iran because there isn't many there now, however lack of something does not specifically mean demand.

    Saying any foreign ts can come to bangkok and throw an ad on craiglist and get 10000 is pure speculation, and rarely happens.
    Thai men don't have a huge desire for foreign ladyboys and can usually date thai lbs for free. In reality most of these thai girl on the internet have some boyfriend behind them. The asian guys you see in nana are not generally thai but japanese, korean and other foreigners.
    I don't see the point of going to thailand and sitting in my hotel and ordering escorts i have never met before for multiple times the going rate.
    If you don't want to be seen i guess, but why come to thailand?

    Of course you can call and escort agency in any city in the world and pay many times the going rate.
    You can meet girls from thai friendly who probably have many other guys on the go, i've been with some like this and the games they play are many.
    As you said the same girls my charge one price on the street, in a bar, at an agency and on the internet, so why would you pay the internet or agency price?
    Why are they more "high end" because you book them the most expensive way? Will they suddenly be smarter or better looking?
    What else makes high end other than more money? They can have a nice condo, but i can rent a 5 star hotel in bangkok for $50 most days.

    Calling escorts from craiglist or meeting them from the internet in thailand is risky. If you got robbed or something there is no record of anything and the police probably wouldn't even come. Your date will be out in nakhon ratchasima with your stuff before you know it. If you are killed there is no record and nobody will care. You also could have trouble with the police if they are doing a sting, which could put you in jail owing huge bribe money to get out. Going to nana and picking out a girl is cool with the authorities, calling hookers from craiglist is not.
    Still it is much safer, people saw you, you are on cameras you paid a bar fine. The girls in the bars want to keep their jobs, so they are less likely to rob you or play a game on you. Often the bar girls are tested regularly for drugs and stds, what do you know about that new girl off the internet?
    Plus i go to a bar i can pick from many girls and get one i like, not play roulette from the internet and just get and ok one that costs alot.

    In bangkok almost all the ladyboys speak good english. If they go to college (high school) they take many years of english and can usually speak, read and write quite well. I am not saying i don't pay good girls more than the going rate but the fact is the going rate is 2-3000 baht per session.
    Because i am a really nice guy and am not afraid to be seen in the light of day with ladyboys, they will often show me around for free if i need it.
    Myself i am trying to learn thai as much as i can and have become very self sufficient now. Some lbs i have been with don't want you to learn so you are dependent. In reality they respect you more if you know the culture and speak the language and will be more willing to hang out with you for free than any amount of money.

    This trip the opposite was true from the past. Massy came up to bangkok to see me from pattaya and i showed her around. Took her shopping and taught her how to use the trains, it was kind of a nice change from being dependent.

    Don't bother replying if you can't be polite, thanks.

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    • Massy would marry you if you asked her

      Ladyboys in Thailand are like the rest of the women in Thailand, they want more than anything to meet a man to take care of them and have a family. At least that was my experiences.

      Its really nice to meet one girl you can have as your companion for several days. I really enjoyed seeing you and Massy spend so much time together. She will think about you and remember you for a long long time. Thanks for sharing so much about your trip.

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      • Originally posted by vancouverman View Post
        Massy would marry you if you asked her

        Ladyboys in Thailand are like the rest of the women in Thailand, they want more than anything to meet a man to take care of them and have a family. At least that was my experiences.

        Its really nice to meet one girl you can have as your companion for several days. I really enjoyed seeing you and Massy spend so much time together. She will think about you and remember you for a long long time. Thanks for sharing so much about your trip.
        Well it might be nice if that could work out but from experience there is not much chance.
        I can't move there and she can't move here. Even if she could move to Canada then that would mean she could probably go anywhere.
        If she could go anywhere, I doubt it would be here.

        So I could move there and she could stop working in the bar. I'm not sure she would want to work at a crappy paying job after that.
        So she would have to do something like webcam which is great for her because LBs always love the attention of many guys.
        Not so great for me as all the attention goes into that.
        We could move way out to the country where she is from but neither of us would want to live out there all the time, but very cheap.

        As it is I cannot move there and she would gladly marry me regardless.
        Can't get into a situation where I have a wife i barely see but send money to all the time.

        Some of these Thai Ladyboys are fantastic to spend alot of time with, especially the country girls.
        Alot of them are quick to talk love and relationships but once you peel back a layer there is often alot of deceit at play.
        You have to wonder about families that send their children to work in brothels.
        Also with our age difference it will grow awkward over time I'm sure.

        There is always the chance one could be different and Massy is one of the most level headed honest LBs I've met.
        We're still in touch...

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        • Somebody was asking for more pics of this tgirl.

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          • Thailand Trip 2014

            Thanks Craig for the terrific summary of your trip and the fantastic pictures! Pattaya looks like a beautiful and fun place to meet LBs and party. Are your trips you organize to go there always end Oct and beginning of Nov? Are there other interesting activities later in Nov and into Dec? I ask because hunting season starts 1 Nov and I find the first two weeks to be productive. Any comments you have about late in Nov would be appreciated.

            Thanks again! You da man!!

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            • Originally posted by bigmtsl View Post
              Thanks Craig for the terrific summary of your trip and the fantastic pictures! Pattaya looks like a beautiful and fun place to meet LBs and party. Are your trips you organize to go there always end Oct and beginning of Nov? Are there other interesting activities later in Nov and into Dec? I ask because hunting season starts 1 Nov and I find the first two weeks to be productive. Any comments you have about late in Nov would be appreciated.

              Thanks again! You da man!!
              I may travel there some other times but mainly i try and organize a trip around the Ladyboy Volleyball tournament in the the first week of November. This is one of the best times of year as there is also the Miss International Queen competition in the same period. So there is lots of ladyboy action all around Pattaya, parties and such. Also the Loy Kratong festival of lights is on just after this too in early November.

              Late November and December is great too it is not so hot as other times of year. The high season is generally between late November and February so price will start to go up a little over this time and it may be a little busier.
              Summer and early fall are probably the slower times but it is very very hot and rains most of the time in Thailand.
              Alot of the LBs from the country will go back home during summer and start to come back to town in October as they may help with the rice harvest.

              Pattaya is a little busy and dirty but it is a fun place all the time.

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              • Thanks for the answer Crag. I enjoy reading your posts. Maybe I will forgo the first week of hunting and trade it for Pattaya!

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                • That was me asking for more pics of her, thanks for those!

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                  • Here is more of the black bikini Ladyboy.
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                    • And I think this all the rest of the Hot Ladyboy around the pool.

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                      • Crag you have a very good camera

                        Thanks for sharing!

                        Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                        And I think this all the rest of the Hot Ladyboy around the pool.

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                        • Made my day! Thanks again, Crag

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                          • I see no Devil behind those eyes, unless you were set at incognito mode


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                            • Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
                              I see no Devil behind those eyes, unless you were set at incognito mode
                              I dunno i'm in a Red Hot middle eastern bar, in a red light district, drinking San Miguel Light surrounded by willing women & LBs (72 I think) with smoke billowing around my head. Sounds devilish to me.

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                              • Amazing Trip Report Crag. I salute you for this thread !

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