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[tek1234]

There was a discussion about t-gilrs in one of the forums and this what was written by a genetic woman about us. It really just amazes me that some genetic women are more understanding of our lifestyle compared to some of the t-girls:

First, I think it's really important to remember that trans women are women. They may have different bits than you're used to on women, but that doesn't make them any less real women.

Like having sex with cis women (cis means not trans), sex with trans women is going to be a unique encounter each time - sex is a dynamic that's created by two people together. It's okay to feel unsure - the important thing is to communicate a lot. Ask her how she likes to be touched and what language she likes when talking about her body.

Some trans people have a lot of dysphoria that can be triggered by certain words or being touched in certain ways, so just use your words.

If she has a penis, it may or may not get hard. A lot of trans women who have been on estrogen for a while don't get erections any more, without the aid of Viagra or other meds. She also may or may not ejaculate still.

She may be a top or a bottom or versatile - definitely something to talk about. Roles may not be quite as easy to assume as they would be with a cis woman.

A lot of straight sex between two cis people often defaults to penis in vagina sex without a lot of discussion. You should expect to talk a little bit more about what kinds of sex you two will have, and maybe you'll need to have a broader idea of what counts as sex, beyond putting your cock in a hole (or maybe you won't.)

I think it's also really important to think about the experiences trans women have. Like all women, there's a real risk of violence at the hands of men, but in addition to male violence against women, they also have to content with transphobic violence. Recognize that she's taking a big risk with her safety by meeting a stranger off the internet, honour any safety measures she decides to take and be extremely respectful of her boundaries. Trans women are murdered all the time simply because people are uncomfortable with their attraction to them or because people can't see them as human beings.

Call her by the name she gives you and use the pronouns she uses for herself (most likely she & her).

I'd recommend reading this guide and checking out some other resources, so that when you meet, you can just focus on being your best self: http://www.autostraddle.com/getting-...-women-160269/

Be awesome, be kind and be okay with not knowing everything (but be willing to listen and learn!)

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If I'm straight and attracted to women is this relationship worth pursuing?

Absolutely. Trans women are women, and no matter what she has between her legs now, or in the future, doesn't change that. Dating or having sex with a trans person doesn't change your sexual orientation in any way - if you're a straight guy who's attracted to women, and you find a trans woman hot, well hey, you just met another woman that you find attractive.

I agree Jane

[brendan888]

I have only bottomed out of curiosity yes there can be some discomfort at first but it is mind blowing so sorry if you want to top only what's the point might as well stay at home and fuck. I find the thought of another guy repulsive just not for me. But always trannys have and will be my thing I will top and bottom always. I love transexual penis.

[TSFantasia]

What are we to make of the numerous tgirls on SMC that say top only? Is that coz they only want to be topped in their private lives or something?

Honest question, not trolling.

"T-Girls" is a pretty broad label just like "transgender" is every guy who puts on a pair of nylons and heels and jerks off in front of a webcam calls himself a t-girl. Fetish cross dressers who may be hairy construction guys by day may be "t-girls" by night and dim lighting. Nothing wrong with that everyone has their fetishes.

The big difference between a person who identifies as a trans woman in transition and a fetish cross dress/t-girl is one identifies as a woman in all aspects of life and the latter dresses as a woman for sexual arousal and activity.

For those t-girls who are "top only" providers a few may genuinely have that orientation, most do it for the money because the demand is there, some do it because it can be easier to pop a pill and throw on a condom to top then it is to always be prepared to receive anal sex. STD wise it is also less risk to be the one giving anal sex than the one receiving.

Many guys who love to fuck women and t-girls do because they are turned on by the femininity in both it doesn't really matter what ends up being between their legs as the arousal starts with the looks and sensuality of the woman and not with the genitals. A lot of t-girl SPs are better looking and have better bodies than most of the female service providers in that area most of whom hide their face, which makes it easier for them to use fake pics and then just tell the guy oh that pic was before my pregnancy, etc etc.

[Franklinzed]

There was a discussion about t-gilrs in one of the forums and this what was written by a genetic woman about us. It really just amazes me that some genetic women are more understanding of our lifestyle compared to some of the t-girls:

First, I think it's really important to remember that trans women are women. They may have different bits than you're used to on women, but that doesn't make them any less real women.

Like having sex with cis women (cis means not trans), sex with trans women is going to be a unique encounter each time - sex is a dynamic that's created by two people together. It's okay to feel unsure - the important thing is to communicate a lot. Ask her how she likes to be touched and what language she likes when talking about her body.

Some trans people have a lot of dysphoria that can be triggered by certain words or being touched in certain ways, so just use your words.

If she has a penis, it may or may not get hard. A lot of trans women who have been on estrogen for a while don't get erections any more, without the aid of Viagra or other meds. She also may or may not ejaculate still.

She may be a top or a bottom or versatile - definitely something to talk about. Roles may not be quite as easy to assume as they would be with a cis woman.

A lot of straight sex between two cis people often defaults to penis in vagina sex without a lot of discussion. You should expect to talk a little bit more about what kinds of sex you two will have, and maybe you'll need to have a broader idea of what counts as sex, beyond putting your cock in a hole (or maybe you won't.)

I think it's also really important to think about the experiences trans women have. Like all women, there's a real risk of violence at the hands of men, but in addition to male violence against women, they also have to content with transphobic violence. Recognize that she's taking a big risk with her safety by meeting a stranger off the internet, honour any safety measures she decides to take and be extremely respectful of her boundaries. Trans women are murdered all the time simply because people are uncomfortable with their attraction to them or because people can't see them as human beings.

Call her by the name she gives you and use the pronouns she uses for herself (most likely she & her).

I'd recommend reading this guide and checking out some other resources, so that when you meet, you can just focus on being your best self: http://www.autostraddle.com/getting-...-women-160269/

Be awesome, be kind and be okay with not knowing everything (but be willing to listen and learn!)

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If I'm straight and attracted to women is this relationship worth pursuing?

Absolutely. Trans women are women, and no matter what she has between her legs now, or in the future, doesn't change that. Dating or having sex with a trans person doesn't change your sexual orientation in any way - if you're a straight guy who's attracted to women, and you find a trans woman hot, well hey, you just met another woman that you find attractive.

You have some of the best posts on these topics. Good shit - it makes a ton of sense and is congruent with the different situations I personally have observed in reality.

[Alexis]

lol..

*takes a bow.

You're welcome. I will try to stick my dick in as many t-girl asses as possible.

Good boy..

Although you're kinda cute.. nice little ass..

Maybe just for a little bit ok?? I'll be gentle I promise..

[Kasan]

Just do whatever makes you happy, that's my motto.

Not going to judge or put a label on somebody just because they like a cock up there ass.

[tek1234]

Just do whatever makes you happy, that's my motto.

Not going to judge or put a label on somebody just because they like a cock up there ass.

Well said Kasan

[Bacchus Boy]

Top Prize

Fantasia,
I would love to satisfy your request. I would treat you like a woman - kissing, exploration, caress your breasts suck your nipples (even some nipple nibbles), suck your shemale clit until your satisfied, lick you shemale pussy before entering your tight dark warmth to rock our worlds.

[cameeindos]

To all the top guys who love to top women and t-girls keep up the good work!

Nothing makes a woman/trans woman happier than you being the man in the bedroom

Not talking about what you can or cannot get a woman/t-girl to do for money in an escort or porn session.
If your a t-girl luver and have gotten into your 20's, 30's, 40s...... with out having any desire to stick
things up your butt no need to start now! In general its a pain in the butt anyways and a messy situation..lol.
Don't let anyone tell you that the only way to enjoy a t-girl is with you in the bent over position or on your back legs in
the air position like a lil biatch . There is definitely a large contingent of those trying to shape the t-girl porn and
escort industry to suit that desire. Each to their own.

As for me it's real not rocket science that I as a trans woman want to be approached as woman, maybe with that something extra to pet & suck like a large clit, but definitely not interested in being turned into a gay dude in a dress!
Why would I say that? Recently had a guy on a social media site ask me after some chit chat about me being a t-girl.
"Do you like to fuck guys?" Meaning of course do I like to top. I immediately answered "No I don't do you like to fuck guys?" The answer came back "HELL NO!!". I asked "Why Not?" "Because I'm not gay!" I said, "Neither am I so why would seeing a guy bent over in front of me excite, arouse, or turn me on in anyway? I would have to have a gay male orientation for that to be the case, right? He had to agree with that assessment. I also asked him why he felt that any trans woman conflicted enough over their outward physical appearance to go through huge efforts to change that through hormones and surgeries would want to continue using their last remaining male part in the most masculine way possible?

His assumptions of course came from shemale porn sites. This of course is not an isolated incident. Just one I decided to confront in that way. To me anyways for someone to want to only view me as a gay male in a dress for their sexual satisfaction is the ultimate slap in the face to my womanhood and how far I've come in my transition.
As a SP I did try to be versatile and did top many guys. Was it ever a turn on for me? NO it was always the least enjoyable part of my JOB. I actually would dissuade many guys from coming to see me when I knew that their only interest was to be topped. I told one guy maybe 4 or 5 mos ago that I was not prepared to top that night if he wanted a regular GFE session that would be fine. He said no problem he still wanted to come over. As we got into mutual oral I got rock hard and he said "I real am a bottom and you should be able to fuck me as you are rock hard?" There was an instantaneous reaction I have NEVER gone soft that fast in my life ..LOL.

After that I think I only topped a few guys during BDSM sessions but finally decided after coming back from Mexico end of March that NO I'm not doing that anymore for any amount of money. My womanhood is not for sale.
So I'm a bottom only provider now and of course in the real world of dating I've always been bottom only. Lucky to have a well endowed man in my life who treats me like a woman in and out of the bedroom. Probably getting to the stage that
I will give up escorting soon as he is starting to get jealous over it (I think we are at the don't ask don't tell stage). But regardless of how much further that relationship goes I will approach escorting as a "Find something to do that you love doing and find away to make money doing it" enterprise, and not a "It's a dirty job, but someones got to do it" or "its a paycheck" approach.

I know my opinions on this are not popular and barely a ripple in the tidal wave that has over taken t-girl porn & escorting but a lot of other t-girls would agree even if they keep their mouths shut for financial reasons.
So again hats off to all you top guys making your women happy keep up the good work!!

You always mention this.

But if your bf is a top, fine. You have what you want, and your clients will too soon.

But if men like to top or bottom, good for them. I don't think bottoming is "more gay" because society or whoever says so. And I'm not "offended", it's your opinion, doesn't mean people can't comment on it or disagree with it.

I reckon TSs need to realise that the cock is PART of the attraction, and men with an anal sexuality well will want to get fucked. Of course this is against what many TSs feel, but then such is life. If escorts don't like topping, then don't offer it.

[cameeindos]

As I said these are my feelings on how it makes me feel when men choose to try to use me in this way or believe that trans women think this way from their only perspective being shemale porn sites. Roll back 5 yrs and you will barely find any evidence of this current trend. So the fact that interested trans attracted guys on social media and dating sites think this is the preoccupation of a trans woman's sex drive implies that the "brainwashing" is thorough and almost complete!

I have no doubt that the majority but not all who identify as trans women in transition think and feel as I do. That fetish cross dressers think very differently is pretty well known too. Escorting and porn is business and if a person has the goods and interest in fulfilling the current demand all the power to them.

If a farmer calls me up and wants to tie me up in his barn, dress me like a pig and tell me to oink as he fucks me that maybe a kinky
thing to do once (provided his last name isn't Pickton). But if that becomes the only request coming from clients and soon the shemale porn sites become filled with it and guys on social media think they are flattering or enticing me by saying "Here piggy, piggy I've got something for you in the barn!" Then of course I would have to ask myself if this is really how I want to be viewed and treated especially when those "kinky,fetish" perceptions cross over into the real world.

Being penetrated as a woman during sex is a perfectly natural thing. I view myself as a woman there is no conflict in my mind while this is happening. As an escort female or trans I maybe selling my virtue but always better then being the cheap slut most men really want (sex for free). I am selling my sexuality as a trans woman escort like a female escort sells her female sexuality. The odd client will want her to use a strap on or allow anal sex with her some will accommodate others won't. And not many women are trying to fuck their man's ass with their clit or fantasize about growing one because that so turns them on.

lol.. You keep posting about this topic. What more do you want discussed? I think we've all said our piece many times, with the consensus being people like what they like, even if many TSs understandably don't want to top.

The thing is a lot of men into TSs want to get fucked. If it makes them gay, well that's moot, but then the fact TS escorts have cocks lends to that. It's naive to suggest that the cock is not part of the general attraction.

It seems many TS escorts complain about most of their clients being bottoms, well don't offer topping as a service. It may mean less sales, but then if you get pissed off at another bottom client coming into your apartment or hotel room, then he doesn't care provided you fuck him good on his prostate and he leaves happy afterwards without giving a second thought It's like any other product, it's just supply and demand at play.

I bottom more often than not with TSs and no I'm not pissed off or offended at what you or others here have said. I don't think it makes me gay, and to be honest I don't like active anal sex with genetic women or TSs (genetic pussy is a million times better than women arse..) It's just if you don't like topping men, fine, what use does posting about it all the time going to do? Or change men who visit escorts who ask to be bottomed? It just seems the discussion is exhausted.

[Tia Phoenixx]

lol.. You keep posting about this topic. What more do you want discussed? I think we've all said our piece many times, with the consensus being people like what they like, even if many TSs understandably don't want to top.

The thing is a lot of men into TSs want to get fucked. If it makes them gay, well that's moot, but then the fact TS escorts have cocks lends to that. It's naive to suggest that the cock is not part of the general attraction.

It seems many TS escorts complain about most of their clients being bottoms, well don't offer topping as a service. It may mean less sales, but then if you get pissed off at another bottom client coming into your apartment or hotel room, then he doesn't care provided you fuck him good on his prostate and he leaves happy afterwards without giving a second thought It's like any other product, it's just supply and demand at play.

I bottom more often than not with TSs and no I'm not pissed off or offended at what you or others here have said. I don't think it makes me gay, and to be honest I don't like active anal sex with genetic women or TSs (genetic pussy is a million times better than women arse..) It's just if you don't like topping men, fine, what use does posting about it all the time going to do? Or change men who visit escorts who ask to be bottomed? It just seems the discussion is exhausted.

Fair enough. but actually, that's NOT true that most clients like to bottom.

As Fantasia has already explained. Straight men are drawn with beautiful, passable transsexual, and naturally they will treat us as a woman, and like to fuck us too.

Some exceptions and variation exist of course.

Some men are drawn with big dicked girls too...I know that LOL

Variety is indeed making our life exciting, isn't it?!
Who cares about label anyway

[TSFantasia]

This post is for TOP guys to know that they are doing just great and not missing out on anything if they choose to approach a T-Girl escort or just a Friday night date as they do any other woman with the exception there is a larger clit to pet, suck, and play with during foreplay and oral. As I mentioned before look back 5 years ago in T-girl porn and you will rarely find this barrage that has over taken she-male porn. So obviously the attraction initially was by men who's turn on was to top these girls. At what point someone came up with the great idea to make the t-girls top guys I don't know. To me as a trans woman this was a most unfavorable curve thrown into the mix.

But just like the guys who enjoy bottoming will continue to post their threads, reviews, picture and video links to that topic I will continue to periodically post my views as a trans woman, t-girl and bottom SP. There are always new guys coming to he forum and yes the older members know my thoughts and opinions on the subject and now new guys do too

Always funny when you hit the hornets' nest you quickly find out who the hornets are!

There is lots on this forum for bottom-orientated guys and plenty of "top only" and "versatile" SPs to go see all the power to you and spend lots of money! I don't see why my views should be attacked by the bottoms and fetish cross dressers, etc. just because I stated my views on it. This would have been a good post for guys who love topping T-girls to discuss their views and experiences but I can see there is too many buzzing hornets around to enjoy the picnic..Lol.

[GTanker]

My 2 cents, I like to try everything, but that comes with a deep respect for peoples boundaries and preferences...treat others like you wish to be treated.

I do however hate it when someone is just going through the motions, i.e topping when they clearly have no interest in it. If a girl states she is versatile I am expecting that to be an honest and sincere preference. No judgement one way or the other. I would expect the same in return.

In terms of preference, I am and have always been strongly attracted to trans women. It goes beyond simple physical attraction and the sex. I have however never met a trans women socially or professionally. When I am with an escort trans women I am looking for some chemistry, the sex and preference will sort itself out from there if we are honest and open and actually like each other. Sounds naive...I know.

In terms of the discussion and dialog here...have to say I some truly insightful thoughtful and articulate posts.

[cameeindos]

This post is for TOP guys to know that they are doing just great and not missing out on anything if they choose to approach a T-Girl escort or just a Friday night date as they do any other woman with the exception there is a larger clit to pet, suck, and play with during foreplay and oral. As I mentioned before look back 5 years ago in T-girl porn and you will rarely find this barrage that has over taken she-male porn. So obviously the attraction initially was by men who's turn on was to top these girls. At what point someone came up with the great idea to make the t-girls top guys I don't know. To me as a trans woman this was a most unfavorable curve thrown into the mix.

But just like the guys who enjoy bottoming will continue to post their threads, reviews, picture and video links to that topic I will continue to periodically post my views as a trans woman, t-girl and bottom SP. There are always new guys coming to he forum and yes the older members know my thoughts and opinions on the subject and now new guys do too

Always funny when you hit the hornets' nest you quickly find out who the hornets are!

There is lots on this forum for bottom-orientated guys and plenty of "top only" and "versatile" SPs to go see all the power to you and spend lots of money! I don't see why my views should be attacked by the bottoms and fetish cross dressers, etc. just because I stated my views on it. This would have been a good post for guys who love topping T-girls to discuss their views and experiences but I can see there is too many buzzing hornets around to enjoy the picnic..Lol.

eh? All I said was that you always post about how annoyed you are at men who don't top, and always on the same theme. If you like men to fuck you and you not fuck them, fine, but then I don't see how this thread is any different from the others you've posted. We all know your views on the issue, which again is no different to what you've said many times before.

[Tia Phoenixx]

My 2 cents, I like to try everything, but that comes with a deep respect for peoples boundaries and preferences...treat others like you wish to be treated.

I do however hate it when someone is just going through the motions, i.e topping when they clearly have no interest in it. If a girl states she is versatile I am expecting that to be an honest and sincere preference. No judgement one way or the other. I would expect the same in return.

In terms of preference, I am and have always been strongly attracted to trans women. It goes beyond simple physical attraction and the sex. I have however never met a trans women socially or professionally. When I am with an escort trans women I am looking for some chemistry, the sex and preference will sort itself out from there if we are honest and open and actually like each other. Sounds naive...I know.

In terms of the discussion and dialog here...have to say I some truly insightful thoughtful and articulate posts. Why have I never met a trans women in the boardroom?

well said

Honestly is extremely important.

There is always somebody for every girl if she market herself correctly.

Plus sized/chubby girls have their own admirers.
Big dicked girls have theirs too
Petite/slim girls...same thing
Femboy, androgynous...same thing
And the list keep going, including tgirl with muscle...

The worst thing is, if we tell the clients the opposite. It's bad and a torture for ourselves. On top of it, the clients, as Gtanker has mentioned, will NOT enjoy it either.

On the contrary, if we are honest and enjoy what we do...we can just have client after client...orgasms after orgasms...always with a big smile on our face.

Why? because we enjoy it.

We will sleep and eat better too!
And the result is: our young, fresh looking face (and body) everyday.

YES! sex is great with the right partner, thus it's crucial to "invite" the right partner into our bed



Hemmm.......

I miss u Gtanker!



btw, I have met a 66 years old popular provider in USA who look like 55 max. Yes, 66 years old!

I guess, having a great sex life makes her, at least one decade younger than she is.