Bruce Jenner debuts her tgirl persona... Caitlyn for Vanity Fair

[Rockheart]

Not sure why we can't have our opinions without offending each other.
I'm criticizing not TGs or women, only this person.
(If I am transphobic then everyone is)

[Raging Bob]

Not sure why we can't have our opinions without offending each other.
I'm criticizing not TGs or women, only this person.
(If I am transphobic then everyone is)

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John Stewart always manages to boil things down to their true essence!!

So funny....but too true!

[Alexis]

This is old news..

This was announced on Family Guy 6 years ago and no one payed any attention to it..

[TSFantasia]

That is exactly why I think she is a fraud.
Everything else always was more important than transitioning for 62 years, EVERYTHING.
His male life took priority over being a woman always.
This is not someone with a serious gender disorder problem, it is a dabbler.
Now that it doesn't matter anymore she can do her bucket list thing and be a hero again.

BTW my Grandmas were fucking gorgeous.

Good points

welcome back Fantasia.

I was just about to ask about you.

About my last comment on the other thread, we have all different opinions and point of views...there is no more or less valuable, there are just different. I hope you are not hurt or offended by that.

No issues with anything you said Tia just not being in the biz anymore don't have much to contribute on most posts and pretty much feel like a hot girl in a gay bar for all the interest I've gotten here since my surgery lol. But hey it's a T-girl forum and cocks rule and pussies drool Hope everything is well in your world

[greep]

This was announced on Family Guy 6 years ago and no one payed any attention to it..

this clip is from my favorite sitcom of all time, and is over 20 years old......

[Tia Phoenixx]

No issues with anything you said Tia just not being in the biz anymore don't have much to contribute on most posts and pretty much feel like a hot girl in a gay bar for all the interest I've gotten here since my surgery lol. But hey it's a T-girl forum and cocks rule and pussies drool Hope everything is well in your world

dont feel alone. I will follow your path in few years anyway, so we need more post ops in this forums.

No, it is not true, that tgirl admirers love only our dick. If it is the case, I will no longer exist in this industry since my dick is not big enough for that.

There are so many lurkers who are not into big dicks. As a matter of fact, there are so many guys who are simply drawn with our beauty and femininity, and dont care too much about our penis's size.

Just ask Crag. I am sure Cake's penis size, his long time GF, is no longer than 6 inches, but she is so cute and feminine.

Most bottom guys are very vocal, and most top guys are lurkers. However, you have to believe in me, most guys who like tgirls are actually top, not bottom or versatile.

Unfortunately, because those top guys love to fuck girls too, we have to compete so hard with GG. They are also unlikely to comment or being an active member, since they are too busy hunting or fucking, or doing other things...alpha male things you know..

Unlike top guys, those bottom boys don't have any choice but to get fucked by tgirls since they dont like male form.

So although they are the minority, they are very likely to be active in this forums thus giving the impression that most guys who like tgirls are bottom and love big penis.

It is misleading. The reality proves the opposite. Most guys who like tgirls will feel a little intimidated if the girls have bigger penis size than theirs.

Take a look of Sarina Valentina...mama mia...if she has a nice personality to boost her physical assets, she wil get fucked every minute lol

Most guys have a very strong instinct to fuck and spread their sperm. If we are a good candidate for that, no matter whether we have a pussy or a dick, they will come to fuck us anyway.

(unfortunately, only if we are a good or great candidate for that. In order words, not every bottom girls will be busy, because those studs will be picky and only choose the best candidate to fuck)

So let all of us prepare to be a great candidate to get fucked by those studs LOL.

I am doing all the necessary things to be a great candidate right now. Wait till few years from now

So hooray for bottom girls and post ops

You are definitely at home here girl

[Rockheart]

dont feel alone. I will follow your path in few years anyway, so we need more post ops in this forums.

No, it is not true, that tgirl admirers love only our dick. If it is the case, I will no longer exist in this industry since my dick is not big enough for that.

There are so many lurkers who are not into big dicks. As a matter of fact, there are so many guys who are simply drawn with our beauty and femininity, and dont care too much about our penis's size.

Just ask Crag. I am sure Cake's penis size, his long time GF, is no longer than 6 inches, but she is so cute and feminine.

Most bottom guys are very vocal, and most top guys are lurkers. However, you have to believe in me, most guys who like tgirls are actually top, not bottom or versatile.

Unfortunately, because those top guys love to fuck girls too, we have to compete so hard with GG. They are also unlikely to comment or being an active member, since they are too busy hunting or fucking, or doing other things...alpha male things you know..

Unlike top guys, those bottom boys don't have any choice but to get fucked by tgirls since they dont like male form.

So although they are the minority, they are very likely to be active in this forums thus giving the impression that most guys who like tgirls are bottom and love big penis.

It is misleading. The reality proves the opposite. Most guys who like tgirls will feel a little intimidated if the girls have bigger penis size than theirs.

Take a look of Sarina Valentina...mama mia...if she has a nice personality to boost her physical assets, she wil get fucked every minute lol

Most guys have a very strong instinct to fuck and spread their sperm. If we are a good candidate for that, no matter whether we have a pussy or a dick, they will come to fuck us anyway.

(unfortunately, only if we are a good or great candidate for that. In order words, not every bottom girls will be busy, because those studs will be picky and only choose the best candidate to fuck)

So let all of us prepare to be a great candidate to get fucked by those studs LOL.

I am doing all the necessary things to be a great candidate right now. Wait till few years from now

So hooray for bottom girls and post ops

You are definitely at home here girl

Talk about stereotyping.
You did everything but call me a fag.
Exactly what I said before even though you try to deny it.

Cake has a pussy which you would know if you were paying attention.

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?132391-I-Return-from-Gender-Reassignment-Surgery-in-Thailand

im just yanking your chain, i just like saying that word!

[Tia Phoenixx]

Talk about stereotyping.
You did everything but call me a fag.
Exactly what I said before even though you try to deny it.

Cake has a pussy which you would know if you were paying attention.

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?132391-I-Return-from-Gender-Reassignment-Surgery-in-Thailand

im just yanking your chain, i just like saying that word!

Cake has a pussy?

See..you just prove my previous statement above. You dont really care whether she has a dick or pussy. You are drawn and attracted by her femininity and beauty.
It does not really matter whether she has pussy or a dick...as long as she is fuckable lol

Men are dirty

p.s: I am partly joking! Of course, personality plays a major role as well

[Tia Phoenixx]

Before going to bed, let me add a little bit on this matter:

First off, I just clicked that link you provided Crag, and it was so touchy. I didnt plan to have SRS in 2010 so i skipped reading that thread.

My statement with regards to top and bottom men sounds stereotyping.
I agree to certain extends, especially with regards to internet activity. It is indeed still not yet proven whether or not bottom men are more active in forums like this.

It is just based on my sole experience and observation.

In real life, those men who hit me on the street, have strong inclination to screw me, not the other way around.
I am sure, all tgirls who are pretty, feminine and passable hit by men who most likely want to fuck them, not the other way around as well.

It is something very innate indeed.

Back to my own experience, after realizing this, i start changing my escort persona and promote me as being a bottom. The result is beyond awesome LOL

Anyway, i am too sleepy and tired to ramble further more

good night

[TSFantasia]

Congrats Caitlyn and great acceptance speech!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112W8q8XXKw

[Rockheart]

Sorry to be bitter but an award for courage should go to someone who puts their life on the line or does something tremendous.

I'm not sure that transitioning a woman is that courageous, she could have done it privately but she didn't.
I mean there was no struggle and no money problems at all, it was easy as pie.

There is hundreds and thousands of people that do far more courageous things every day and save lives.
It is one thing to save lives and a whole other thing to change your gender for profit.

Not sure how a sports award is given to a transsexual for gender reassignment.
What about all the TG athletes that went before Bruce? What about their recognition.

This whole thing is just a big cry for attention and a complete joke.
i can't believe real transgenders support this Bullshit.
He is raking in Millions of dollars while many of the rest of the community suffers to meet their goals.
This jerk did it all in one day basically.

Everyone just wants to jump on the fucking bandwagon.
Go find a REAL hero!

Kaitlyn Jenner makes me want to barf.


http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/06/03/...courage-truth/

[xoxJanexox]

I, for one, never wanted to engage in this Hollywood stupid show! I am really sad that this is being portrayed as a symbol of achievement for t-girls.

[TSFantasia]

Sorry to be bitter but an award for courage should go to someone who puts their life on the line or does something tremendous.

I'm not sure that transitioning a woman is that courageous, she could have done it privately but she didn't.
I mean there was no struggle and no money problems at all, it was easy as pie.

There is hundreds and thousands of people that do far more courageous things every day and save lives.
It is one thing to save lives and a whole other thing to change your gender for profit.

Not sure how a sports award is given to a transsexual for gender reassignment.
What about all the TG athletes that went before Bruce? What about their recognition.

This whole thing is just a big cry for attention and a complete joke.
i can't believe real transgenders support this Bullshit.
He is raking in Millions of dollars while many of the rest of the community suffers to meet their goals.
This jerk did it all in one day basically.

Everyone just wants to jump on the fucking bandwagon.
Go find a REAL hero!

Kaitlyn Jenner makes me want to barf.


http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/06/03/...courage-truth/

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The military has it's own set of medals and recognitions for bravery, courage and honour for their soldiers. This was a sports related award that goes primarily to athletes and former athletes ,who have made a difference by their actions outside of their sports accomplishments. While Caitlyn's transition is not typical for many transitioning women because she does have the means to get things done as quickly as she desires it doesn't mean her struggles with her gender identity over the years was any easier than anyone else's. She is using her celebrity status to bring more public attention to transgender issues and rights and in the long run that is a positive for the transgender community.

[Rockheart]

The military has it's own set of medals and recognitions for bravery, courage and honour for their soldiers. This was a sports related award that goes primarily to athletes and former athletes ,who have made a difference by their actions outside of their sports accomplishments. While Caitlyn's transition is not typical for many transitioning women because she does have the means to get things done as quickly as she desires it doesn't mean her struggles with her gender identity over the years was any easier than anyone else's. She is using her celebrity status to bring more public attention to transgender issues and rights and in the long run that is a positive for the transgender community.

So why is she so much more courageous than all the TG athletes that came before?
Are they all less worthy?
Only one reason she won this award.

Television Ratings.

There is no other reason, she may have been an athlete but is not one anymore.
Almost nothing of what she has done has to do with sport.
This other person was handicapped serving their country and fought through it to be a great athlete currently.

Caitlynn just hangs with the Kardashians and tries to look marvelous for the media.
She's is not trying to manage any type of career because becoming a woman is really her career now.
What is her message, become TG and live a marvelous and glamourous life, you don't even need a job.
Everyone will think you are wonderful and fall at your feet.

Not only will this lead people to make bad decisions, it will spawn a whole generation of copycats and wannabes.
The Social safety net and health will suffer overall because of the strain on the system.
This is considered a medical condition that cannot really be proven. In the past why would anyone fake it or want to go through this, but now it looks like a summer vacation. She doesn't represent anything but Hollywood excess.

It is one thing to have strong feelings and go through with this, but now every guy that has the slightest feminine feelings will think they need a sex change or to live as a woman. You can live as a woman without having to go through the whole process but there is pressure to do it all or you are not valid.

In my mind we are all part male and part female, just balanced differently.
The need for everyone to radically change themselves in not necessary.

Who the hell asked her to be the spokes person for transgenders.
Wouldn't the community pick someone a little more down to earth if they there was one?

Seriously.

[vancouverman]

Sorry to be bitter but an award for courage should go to someone who puts their life on the line or does something tremendous.

I'm not sure that transitioning a woman is that courageous, she could have done it privately but she didn't.
I mean there was no struggle and no money problems at all, it was easy as pie.

There is hundreds and thousands of people that do far more courageous things every day and save lives.
It is one thing to save lives and a whole other thing to change your gender for profit.

Not sure how a sports award is given to a transsexual for gender reassignment.
What about all the TG athletes that went before Bruce? What about their recognition.

This whole thing is just a big cry for attention and a complete joke.
i can't believe real transgenders support this Bullshit.
He is raking in Millions of dollars while many of the rest of the community suffers to meet their goals.
This jerk did it all in one day basically.

Everyone just wants to jump on the fucking bandwagon.
Go find a REAL hero!

Kaitlyn Jenner makes me want to barf.

Your anger is surprising considering the forum you run, but there it is.

The media attention and reality TV might look bad to you, but it does infiltrate society and get just a few more people to be "used to" transgenders. People hate change and things they are not used to, that is human nature. For all of this, Jenner does help to some degree because there will be more people who will not turn their head in anger or disgust because they are being exposed to this and saying "hey, this isn't so bad".

as for the award not being deserving over military soldiers. You could take any award and say "well, this guy lost his legs it is a disgrace he didn't win". The arthur ashe award is not a military award and that is not what it was created for. We can't throw every award winner under the bus because we can find someone who suffered more or achieved more. Let the award serve it's purpose.

Whether you like it or not, it is not easy no matter how much money you have , to come out after 40 years and say you are a woman. Especially when every move right down to the minute could be potentially observed by some media because your ex wife and step daughters decided to make their lives a full time reality show. Caitlyn has been part of that for so long that she is just running with the ball and making her own show. Again, it gets just a few more people to accept trans and get used to this in society, then it is worth it. You don't have to watch it you know.

That's all I got to say, but Crag sometimes your anger and aggression is hard to understand.