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And a guy that occasionally smiles!
However a Liberal in Canada is nothing like a Liberal in the USA.
In comparison, a Canadian Liberal is socialist to an American.
Our Socialist party "The NDP" are essentially communists in US eyes.
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Originally posted by VanessaBell View PostNot much a fan given his stance on C51 and the TPP, nevermind an immigration policy almost as bad as the NDP's. At least he's not Harper, I guess.
The AdScam backroom boys are still behind the scenes pulling his strings.
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Well it is actually nice to hear the world saying we have the sexiest leader. There was never any international praise for Harper in any way. In fact the international community hated Harper, he seemed like his goal was to turn Canada into a Military super power do he couple vie for leader of the free world with the US president. I'm happy to be done with Harpers idealistic BS. He thought he knew what was best for everyone rather than letting him decide for themselves.
I remember when i was a kid my Grandmother named her dog Trudeau.
This Zig Zag image is pretty good too!
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Problem is he's all looks but no substance.
Most of the west did not vote for him. He was present when his old man gave us the finger, I would imagine he shares that attitude underneath all the political BS.
There was a grass roots movement started after his election to create "The Republic of Western Canada". Not really a separatist movement, just a way for the west to control its own revenue to keep lefty airheads like Trudeau from bankrupting us with his Robin Hood tactics of stealing from the rich (Alberta) to give to the poor (the east, aka Liberal country).
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Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View PostWell it is actually nice to hear the world saying we have the sexiest leader. There was never any international praise for Harper in any way. In fact the international community hated Harper, he seemed like his goal was to turn Canada into a Military super power do he couple vie for leader of the free world with the US president. I'm happy to be done with Harpers idealistic BS. He thought he knew what was best for everyone rather than letting him decide for themselves.
I remember when i was a kid my Grandmother named her dog Trudeau.
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This Zig Zag image is pretty good too!
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Watch Out For What you Wish
Cnn said after the election Trudeau was not capable of running a large corporation never mind the world's 12th largest economy.
You may hate Harper but during the recession we were very lucky to have an economist at the helm instead of a drama teacher. We were the best performing economy of he G7 during the recession.
Where the hell do you think the funds are going to come from to support a 10B dollar deficit?
Just look at the Dyke Premier we have who has Ontario paying a billion a year just in interest on our provincial debt.
Never mind giving the school unions 2.5M with no receipts whatsoever, but god help you id you get a Rev Can audit and don't have every receipt.
Alberta is now closed thanks to the NDP. Interesting that it takes a license to drive a car but not to vote.
And are we truly fucked up those of us that we born here to think you can be a terrorist and retain your citizenship? If all the immigrants left their countries because they were so bad why the hell do they want to recreate it here in Canada our country?
Let me get my asbestos suit on for the onslaught of replies. The joy of Canada is w celebrate for the most part diversity but we have gone way too far so as I said watch out for what you wish.
The weed will only generate 400m in tax revenue. But this is Candada and this is only my opinion and if you don't agree simply don't read it.
Pat
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Originally posted by Pat View PostYou may hate Harper but during the recession we were very lucky to have an economist at the helm instead of a drama teacher.
2006 Harper took government. Canadian dollar at a little over .90$. The dollar hit its high in 2007, but considering the liberals were in power before they helped the economy from a .68$ canadian dollar in 2002 to a .93$ dollar when the conservatives took over in 2006. The liberals plan was so good, that Harper got 1.10$ canadian dollar in 2007.
Since 2006, our dollar has bounced around but Harper leaves our dollar in worse shape than he got it. Today our dollar sit at .76$ or a 18% drop. The liberals between 2002-2006 took the dollar from .68$ to .93$ or 28% gain.
Before that, the last time the conservatives were in power, Brian Mulroney felt the heat of Canadians with his free trade agreement and in the 1993 elections no one voted for the conservatives and the Bloq Quebecios became the official opposition and that pushed Canada into recession.
The conservatives and their supporters keep stating that Trudeau has no experience and that Harper knows economics. If this is what an economist does to try to fix The country, and the result was an 18% drop in the value of the canadian dollar since the day he took over and 31% drop since 2007.....if this is what an educated economist does, then I will take my chances with the other guy. Harper did not protect our economy. He rode the fact that oil prices skyrocketed during his term. One of our main exports is oil.
Oh, and pitching for Harper on an escort board where the Harper government was told to address the law regarding prositution and his staff re-pretzeled the prositution laws into the same BS ignoring the civil rights and safety of your sex trade workers.
Harpers dealing of civil rights, economy, protected lakes, immigration, and the people of Canada was on par with George W Bush. In fact, Harper is nothing more than a Bush puppet. During his time as PM, Harper waged more war than anything. We went from being a peace keeping nation to military thinking.
As for what CNN says, who the fuck cares what an American based news company says? Americans should worry about their own problems (gun control, no middle class, etc) than our problems.
As for Liberal scandals, how's Mike Duffy these days?
oh...and this: http://www.straight.com/news/491141/...nce-reelection
One other thing.....who says you have to be a lawyer or have an MBA to run the country? Being a leader means leading and putting the right people in place to help him make the best decisions. So, if I wanted someone to run my business...maybe I hire Harper due to his background and education. But....if I want to move a nation, you need someone with charisma. A drama teacher sounds like someone that fits the bill perfectly to me.Last edited by Shyla Wild; 10-23-2015, 04:11 PM.Shyla Wild
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The Dollar
Shyla,
with all due respect my dear Harper had nothing to do with it.
The dollar is driven strictly by the price of a barrel of oil and that is
a whole other conversation. This was not a voter for Trudeau blowing
kisses this was a vote to get rid of Harper. As I indicated before Be careful
for what you wish for. Amen
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I get Harper loyalists being angered Trudeau wins; no problem. I would have been pissed of Harper won.
what I find weird is the loyalists keep going on about this horrible notion that Trudeau will run 2 - 3 deficits to implement some of his plans. Harper ran several deficits in a row, and only balanced the budget in this election year (shocking). He had to make massive cuts all over the place just to make it to a balanced budget this year.
So, my point is, why is this dogma over balanced budgets so engrained in the Harper camp when i really isn't true? He didn't run balanced budgets for most of his term, and they will be the first to tell you the economy was awesome under his guidance. The national debt went up 150 billion from when he took office. So, how is this record any better that what Trudeau plans?
I got news for you.... the country will not collapse if we run deficits sometimes. It didn't collapse when Harper ran them for several years, and it won't collapse if we get 2 or 3 deficits out of Trudeau.
If you hate deficits, cool. I respect your view. However, it is really blind and lack of information to suggest Harper is the balanced budget king and his way is the only way to manage an economy. Due to his over zealous (and dogmatic) tax cutting, he had to cause a lot of pain and suffering to get to this balanced budget in 2015 to try to get re elected.
Harper's big mistake is he lowered taxes in some areas too much. Canadians want services and infrastructure, we do. Lowering the GST didn't change people's spending habits by much but blew 14 billion dollars (at least) a year out of his revenues. He lowered the corporate tax (which was great); however the economy was doing fine at the old rate and he sent it too low to the point the government revenues were crippled. So, what do you get..... huge deficits (which he ran) and massive spending cuts all over the place just to try to get to a balanced budget by 2015. I think the Harper supporters need to think about that before blasting Trudeau for daring to raise some taxes on those that can afford it (I am one of those), and running a deficit.
And the really childish part of Harper supporters, is they keep attacking the guy on what he looks like. Somehow a guy has to be fat or ugly or something in order to be Prime Minister?
And the whole "he doesn't have experience". he has been an MP for almost 8 years; there will be plenty of candidates out there looking to lead federal parties that may have less time as an MP, or be his age or younger. Harper clone Jason Kenney is 47, a whopping 4 years older than Justin.. any human being knows that age has little to do with your ability to do something good (or bad).
Conservatives have been very toxic under Harper and his followers have gone along with it and have nothing constructive to say to the betterment of our country other than attacking the guys age or his looks. Our nation as a whole clearly finds that divisive and negative and doesn't want it. If the Conservatives want to return to power, they will not do it if they spend the next 4 years blaming every misstep by the government on Trudeau's age, his looks, or that he used to be a teacher. They will end up being the Canadian Allians / Reform Party again and never see a Majority government unless they turn into a more positive message.
And quite bluntly, I would rather work with a PM running a deficit than a guy who attacked democracy at every single turn from top to bottom of his administration. It amazes me Conservative supporters have been so willing to accept our democracy being so seriously harmed under his administration because he happened to finish his term on a balanced budget.
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