What would you feel is acceptable for one hour with a Toronto Shemale Escort

[Admin007]

Therefore, some escorts charge $250 or 300 an hour..
It's simply because those clients who can afford that money are (in most case) much better off in term of hygiene and attitude compared to those who pay, let say, $80.

Do you think drugs are cheap?

HPV grows on trees?

You've never had someone that's not in a good finacial situation still pay you $200-300 just because they want to see you so bad?


No doubt anyone is good people but what that has to do with money and hygeine I don't know.

YOu've never cum in someones mouth who was married

[Rantsalot]

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Maybe you should have, because Andrews post is the only one worth talking about....it give substance and a right to justify why this is that or that is this.

He is a tricky guy that Andrew

LOL ... I was a newbie at the time when I first posted it ...I didn't know any better....LMAO ... not saying I know any better now....LOL

Ok. Next time. Live and learn I guess.

[Admin007]

LOL ... I was a newbie at the time when I first posted it ...I didn't know any better....LMAO ... not saying I know any better now....LOL

Ok. Next time. Live and learn I guess.

Well I was just replying that it seemed you were putting his idea down...while I thought it was kinda cool he brought that up

You both are tricky guys

[Rantsalot]

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LOL...thats absurd!

This will be my last reply on this thread. Its all cool. I'd never put anyone's idea down, in fact Andrew's idea was good. Let alone I wouldn't talk smack about any person. It's all good.

Ok all happy voting on this poll.

[Admin007]

And you did put him down by saying "You know I never made any comparisons to sex workers to those in other careers and all that. Why justify?? Anyways...."

Hows he gonna feel when he reads that...he's got feeling too you know


That was a putdown!

This is the new caring sensitive forums You gotta be more sensitive to his feeling too! I'm sure it was an oversight

Hugs to you

[Rantsalot]

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My apologies to everyone.

[toban]

? ? ? ? ?

My apologies to everyone.

For what, pray tell? Did I miss something here?

[snoodle]

I think sex workers deserve every penny they earn. I'm sure its a tough way to make a living.

I am willing to pay more for a girl that gives a good and friendly service.

Don't forget you can't stay in this businness forever. You have to make some money while you are young and hopefully save some and invest it for the future.

I think its Bullshit.

Sex workers should be legal and the government should ensure their safety and working conditions.

Thats what they do in Holland.

Why the hell is prostitution illegal for ?

Seling is legal !
Fucking is legal !
so why is selling fucking illegal !

Whats so bad about giving people an orgasm. Seems like a pretty darn friendly gesture to me !

To alll the T-girls out there Thanks for everything you do!

[Bootboi]

Comparing hourly wages to other professions isn't a true reflection. Those jobs have a certain set hours in a day while an SP may only have 1, maybe even no clients in the run of a day (or have many but it's never a guarantee).

[lp]

Comparing hourly wages to other professions isn't a true reflection. Those jobs have a certain set hours in a day while an SP may only have 1, maybe even no clients in the run of a day (or have many but it's never a guarantee).

ya i agree for the most part only the hustlers work an 8 hr day i know the local girls can do 6 to 8 a day every day and kudos to them i know i couldnt and wouldnt do it but the ones that do it takes a special kinda person for sure hell i know for me i can go once a day to once a month it all depends on wheather im in the mood i quess im one of the lucky ones.

[sensual_lover20]

Any t-girl escort who can satisfy themselves and their clients based on 6-8 per day on a weekly basis is almost inhuman. I don't even want to think about MSOG for the escort. Sometimes guys wonder about why the girl can't finish or even get it up. This is surely one of them. I know I could not survive physically in this field, mainly due to lack of sexual drive or physical attraction, so I applaude the working girls who can maintain a lifestyle. I would assume that any rate below $150 is cruel, especially for what you get (unless it's an HJ and your out). Of course whatever a girl charges, if the guy likes her he will pay it.

Numerous clients aside. My thoughts tell me though that if an AVERAGE (within reason) girl charges $200-$250/hour and sees two clients a day then she can range from $400-$500 and she can still retain her sexual verility and lead another lifestyle during the meanwhile. Doing this only 4 days a week can yield $1600-$2000 weekly and $83, 200-$104, 000 yearly and tax free (or they likely report minor income and pay little taxes). This field seems rather lucrative and comparable to that of professional doctors, lawyers, and accountants despite the lack of years of education. Why bother going to school ... jk!

[Admin007]

Any t-girl escort who can satisfy themselves and their clients based on 6-8 per day on a weekly basis is almost inhuman. I don't even want to think about MSOG for the escort. Sometimes guys wonder about why the girl can't finish or even get it up. This is surely one of them. I know I could not survive physically in this field, mainly due to lack of sexual drive or physical attraction, so I applaude the working girls who can maintain a lifestyle. I would assume that any rate below $150 is cruel, especially for what you get (unless it's an HJ and your out). Of course whatever a girl charges, if the guy likes her he will pay it.

Numerous clients aside. My thoughts tell me though that if an AVERAGE (within reason) girl charges $200-$250/hour and sees two clients a day then she can range from $400-$500 and she can still retain her sexual verility and lead another lifestyle during the meanwhile. Doing this only 4 days a week can yield $1600-$2000 weekly and $83, 200-$104, 000 yearly and tax free (or they likely report minor income and pay little taxes). This field seems rather lucrative and comparable to that of professional doctors, lawyers, and accountants despite the lack of years of education. Why bother going to school ... jk!

Ok say $1600

If you can do that math to get the total monthly maybe you can do the math to remove the expenses you think are incurred for such a job maybe I dunno

I'm just curious what everyone comes up with. Hugs people

[toban]

Looks like they could need a subsidy to survive

Ok say $1600

If you can do that math to get the total monthly maybe you can do the math to remove the expenses you think are incurred for such a job.

I'm just curious what everyone comes up with lol.

Probably their income is not nearly as much as many might believe it to be.

Just think about what some girls must put out for frequent hair styling or hair care, manicures, pedicures, waxing or laser skin treatments, healhcare expenses [which their clients do not provide for them (as our employers do for most of us)], clothing, cabs or other transport, telephone and/or messaging services, advertising on various sites/papers etc., photographers/portraits, special "work" clothing including lingerie, shoes etc., accomodation if they're travelling girls, and - - - Geez, maybe they could end up with a big deficit for the year.

[Tia Phoenixx]

Do you think drugs are cheap?

HPV grows on trees?

You've never had someone that's not in a good finacial situation still pay you $200-300 just because they want to see you so bad?


No doubt anyone is good people but what that has to do with money and hygeine I don't know.

YOu've never cum in someones mouth who was married

I hope i don't hurt anybody's feeling here.

I guess drugs are not cheap, but we are becoming addicted to it, thus some guys buy it anyway...(and if we dig out this matters more..we'll find criminality cases related to drugs addiction).

Sex is not addictive (at least to most of us), but yes it is a necessity. Those who do not have the money to see a particular upscale escort most likely will find a sex worker who suits his wallet.

We'll find good guys in every social class...i'm sorry for mentioning different classes here. But based on facts, the sex providers who are killed, harrassed, and raped are those who work on the street, charging much cheaper and exposing themselves to much higher risks.

There is some truth in Toban's comment

Here in Toronto, we have roughly 30 tg escorts so far, mostly Asians. I know only 2 who can afford some luxuries in their lifes. So 2 out of 30 is less than 10%.

How about the rest? Have you ever seen an ad written available 24/7? What does it tell you? Do you think a tg escort who have enough income will do that? Have you ever seen some tg escorts in tranny alleys at 5.00 am? I have seen them couple times!

Not to mention that we have so many expenses to pay. One week ad on EYE mag costs ranging from $110 to thousands per week. I've paid 200 each week. How about other ads..Now..Eros..theredzone...? How about buying some new stockings..stillettos...lingeries....? How about paying rent? How about sending money to SUPPORT OUR FAMILY back home?

On top of that, how many years do you think an escort can work and live descently from her income? Have you seen one particular escort more than 3 years or you are most likely seeing another escort(s) after all that years?
How many regulars do you think an escort will have after working 5 years or more?
Have you known an escort who remains popular more than 5 years?

Most of us is lucky to get 1 or 2 clients daily. Some even do not have a client in one week.

Yes, there are few of us who have 4-5 clients every day..but how many can do that especially in this competitive market?


I am extremely lucky so far in this industry at the moment ( let's emphasize AT THE MOMENT here)
How many years to go do you think i will earn this kind of income?
I believe it will be only for a very..very short period of time...And it scares me because i simply cannot afford to be retired in the near future.
Do you think i will be successful in other business field after all these years being an escort?
Most probably not!

That's the fact!!

[sensual_lover20]

Probably their income is not nearly as much as many might believe it to be.

Just think about what some girls must put out for frequent hair styling or hair care, manicures, pedicures, waxing or laser skin treatments, healhcare expenses [which their clients do not provide for them (as our employers do for most of us)], clothing, cabs or other transport, telephone and/or messaging services, advertising on various sites/papers etc., photographers/portraits, special "work" clothing including lingerie, shoes etc., accomodation if they're travelling girls, and - - - Geez, maybe they could end up with a big deficit for the year.

I agree, no doubt there are expenses and I merely gave a gross amount. However, I think it is a fallacy to conclude that a t-girls expenses are significantly higher than that of a genetic girl. This does not include one time fee's such as surgeries which obviously can be very costly. Other than that, many of the things you mentioned are regular things a genetic girl would get. I am unsure of the benefits though such as dental, health care. These benefits are provided by many employers, however, if you are self-employed you must go on your on accord to purchase these things. It is expected of a electrician to purchase his own health insurance for example. As for clothing, this I also consider a one time fee and partially attributed to a regular girls expenses too. Perhaps not a bondage suit, but again that is a one time fee and there is only so much clothing you can buy until it is unreasonable (i.e. 10 pairs of black shoes is not deemed reasonable for work S. 67). Transport for outcalls generally comes at a higher price charged as opposed to incalls, usually the girl profits since the transportation fees are less than the difference between the amount charged for incall versus outcall (essentially you are paying her to sit in a cab or bus for a given period of time). Pictures and advertisting are a normal cost incurred in any personal business. Now, if someone makes $100K and have $50K in expenses then that net amount then must be taxed by Canadian government laws. Last time I checked t-girls weren't rolling out T4's or else I would be their accountant This tax savings incurred from not recording their income should be enough to cover the one surgery costs for the year and assuming they continuous get surgeries every year to enhance themselves until the end of the career, it all will equal out because of taxes. Sorry if this sounds harsh. I am not against t-girl escorts, this is just money talking.