Any guys hate to look at pics of tgirls before they transitioned?

[kyliekarma]

Nope not at all. We all have turn ons and turn offs yes? so for me a guy is not a turn on but a sexy women is, so logically seeing a pic of a trans girl when she looked like a man would be a turn off. Not that complicated.

It is transphobic, because not all trans people WANT to look like cis people thats the point. PLUS, her past does not define who she is now.

I know trans women who aren’t on hormones and still have masculine features they are still women, just because you’re not attracted someone wether it be their past self or current doesn’t mean you make a thread discussing their past cause it bothers you.

You’re projecting your own insecurities and stereotypes on what you think trans is because you are attracted to a particular look of trans women, which is where the problem is, if you only respect trans women you’re attracted to you’re not respecting trans women.

By the way, let's see some past and present pics of you prince charming...we’re waiting... lol

[ladyluv]

It is transphobic, because not all trans people WANT to look like cis people thats the point. PLUS, her past does not define who she is now.

I know trans women who aren’t on hormones and still have masculine features they are still women, just because you’re not attracted someone wether it be their past self or current doesn’t mean you make a thread discussing their past cause it bothers you.

You’re projecting your own insecurities and stereotypes on what you think trans is because you are attracted to a particular look of trans women, which is where the problem is, if you only respect trans women you’re attracted to you’re not respecting trans women.

By the way, let's see some past and present pics of you prince charming...we’re waiting... lol

I agree. He’s being very rude.

[Discrete84]

There are also closeted guys who use t girls to explore their curious sides but they really want a true man at the end but scared, shy, or denial so they stick to Tgirls until they build up courage to play with a man like later in life. Nothing wrong with that but it’s part of the picture with those who play with Tgirls. I have a friend who is a provider and tells me guys try to rip her wig off “accidentally”, getting her armpits licked, requested not to wear perfume or makeup and so on lol.

[mr.monday]

No one could deny Kamilas transformation is almost unbelievable. I think putting those images out there took courage, knowing this would be some of the reaction. It also shows how confident she is. She's a smart sexy beautiful woman. She knows it. You know it too. Imagine a young scared teen thinking they could never be good enough, trapped in a bad dream then they see this? I think she probably changed some people's lives, maybe saved a few.

Nothing but Love and Respect

[marinav]

Well these days everyone gets called transphobic or racist for every little thing. Problem with this is when it is real no one will believe it because it is so loose and easy to throw that out. How is saying what I am attracted to and not attracted to a bad thing? Kylie are you attracted to old fat men? no? I guess you are an ageist and a fatphobic then. I have zero attraction to men so an old pic of pre transitioned trans girl is not going to turn me on. Oh Marinav you must be transphobic then. Yeah ok...

[marinav]

My poll has 27% agreeing with me so far and also I have to point out that my original post does not mention Kamila, so it was you guys that brought her name into this. Who says it was about her? maybe it was maybe it wasn't but out of respect I leave names out.

[kyliekarma]

Your preferences are allowed.... your commentary on what you DONT like is unnecessary and rude...there's a difference between saying someone is beautiful and then saying you don't like looking at photos of someone who used to be something you were not attracted to. The latter is irrelevant.

I guess your mother never taught you the introductory lesson; if you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.

It becomes transphobic when you use someone's transition as the insult. But you can’t comprehend that.

By the way, 27% is a failing grade... I wouldn’t be proud of it, lol

[ladyluv]

There are also closeted guys who use t girls to explore their curious sides but they really want a true man at the end but scared, shy, or denial so they stick to Tgirls until they build up courage to play with a man like later in life. Nothing wrong with that but it’s part of the picture with those who play with Tgirls. I have a friend who is a provider and tells me guys try to rip her wig off “accidentally”, getting her armpits licked, requested not to wear perfume or makeup and so on lol.

In all honestly, I tell providers to not wear perfume and to go light on the makeup, because I don’t want to go home with the traces of the fragrance or makeup on my clothing or whatever.

[marinav]

Your preferences are allowed.... your commentary on what you DONT like is unnecessary and rude...there's a difference between saying someone is beautiful and then saying you don't like looking at photos of someone who used to be something you were not attracted to. The latter is irrelevant.

I guess your mother never taught you the introductory lesson; if you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.

It becomes transphobic when you use someone's transition as the insult. But you can’t comprehend that.

By the way, 27% is a failing grade... I wouldn’t be proud of it, lol

Like I pointed out, I didn't mention names in the original post, people who replied did, so if they never said the name who they think I am talking about, this would just be in general as opposed to it attaching a specific name which was not my point for the post. If I specifically mentioned a name that would be different and I would not have done that. For a non escort to put out pics of before that is totally different but from a marketing and business point of view an escort probably shouldn't put up pics of how they looked before. Let me ask you this Kylie, would you put up pics on your shemale Canada of how you looked before transition? I bet you would not because that would not be good from a business stand point or how about put some nude pics of yourself before on onlyfans and let us know how that goes. So then you have to ask yourself why is that now? the answer is more guys (more than 27%) would be turned off by seeing them and it would not help your business. So are you condemning all those guys who would not want to see old pics of you on those sites?

[southxo]

You went on my personal Instagram or my other platforms where I use those for my own pleasure. It’s not like I posted those on my Leo ad and my only fans.. I’m confident in myself and want to share my journey with others.. inspire! I also am starting my own YouTube and blogging things because sex work isn’t forever so all of this is a path to create a new life for me. Might not help my business but that’s not my problem. I’m not un happy about that .. you are. I’m happy and thriving and excited for my new life. Anyone who accepts that are clients and people and friends I want in my life.

anyways just had to say that
Xo Kamila

[kyliekarma]

Like I pointed out, I didn't mention names in the original post, people who replied did, so if they never said the name who they think I am talking about, this would just be in general as opposed to it attaching a specific name which was not my point for the post. If I specifically mentioned a name that would be different and I would not have done that. For a non escort to put out pics of before that is totally different but from a marketing and business point of view an escort probably shouldn't put up pics of how they looked before. Let me ask you this Kylie, would you put up pics on your shemale Canada of how you looked before transition? I bet you would not because that would not be good from a business stand point or how about put some nude pics of yourself before on onlyfans and let us know how that goes. So then you have to ask yourself why is that now? the answer is more guys (more than 27%) would be turned off by seeing them and it would not help your business. So are you condemning all those guys who would not want to see old pics of you on those sites?

First of all, learn to spell and proper grammar reading your responses is like trying to decipher a note from a toddler.

Again, it does not matter which trans person you’re talking about; it’s irrelevant to the fact that you’re transphobic. You’re using someone's transition as a way to take out your insecurities and stereotypes to make yourself feel better about being attracted to trans women.

I have shared personal posts with past photos of myself on my own Twitter and OnlyFans, I posted me getting my photo ID updated, and nobody said anything to me about not wanting to see them. If they did, I’d block them and refund them.

Like she just said, you went to her personal social media profiles. She and any other trans person can post whatever we want about our transition.

Weak, insecure, transphobic, and quite honest insignificant men like you will not gatekeep us and our transition to what you idolize as being trans. Oh and that 28.57% was four people (that poll is sure doing numbers LMFAO), maybe you’s can organize a circle jerk to make yourselves feel better. If you’re going to throw numbers around make sure you’re giving all the details.

You don’t have to be attracted to every trans woman or the past photos of trans women, but if you want to make love to a trans woman, fucking respect the fact that we had a long journey before becoming who we are, and some of us are still on it.

Posting polls and making threads to dictate what is hot or not when it comes to someone's transition isn’t remotely relevant, do something better with your time.

[marinav]

Sorry, I didn't mean to get in a spat. I am just stating an unfortunate fact and being honest. Would you rather I bs you? I don't appreciate being called a transphobe either because I am not. I bet a majority of guys who pay for your services, either onlyfans or escort would agree with me. They would not call you as much or sign up if you showed pics of you before. I would appreciate if some guys who have some balls to agree with me here. You know you think the same. Please comment!. So this means a huge percent of where you get your $$ think like me. Here is Kimber James website link. Do you think it would be a smart idea for her to put a before pic on the home page? Now why do you think she does not do that? or pick any famous trans porn stars site. You know why they don't do this? it is because most guys would not sign up. That would kill their business. So in other words most guys who pay for your services think like me. https://www.bustykimberxxx.com/nwtou...UuMC4wLjAuMC4w I would appreciate some guys to pipe in here and agree with the facts. Its nothing personal and just a marketing thing. And you fucking know I am right but don't want to admit it. By your logic then, most of your customers you would call transphobes.

[marinav]

Oh and btw. Kamila you look amazing and I respect and admire you. I love trans girls. I love them so much I post on a forum called tgirlforums. In fact guys that think like me are better because we admire you more in fact. We look at you as beautiful women and beautiful women only. We like you so much as sexy women that it is hard for us to see you as a man. The guys that are turned on by pics of you before are probably more on the gay side and less on the masculine side. I assume you would rather not have the guy that is still chasing guys right? you want the guy that loves beautiful women and looks at you as that. Which is that not what you want? A guy who views you as a beautiful women. Kylie you look amazing too. Not trying to be a dick but I think the more hetro guys like myself will agree. I say that because a lot of guys on here get with CD's and guys too. I am into sexy women and beautiful tgirls only. Kinda like the 2 of you.

[marinav]

And I am strictly a top only btw, haha and most tgirls I have met in my life time are more attracted to a guy that is only a top. A lot have told me they look at guys who bottom as more on the gay side and they want a more masculine guy that just fucks them. Makes sense right? So going by the stats, the guys that tgirls are mostly attracted to are guys who think like me.

[F1000]

As marinav digs deeper...lol