Is it next to IMPOSSIBLE to have a Tgirl relationship ???

[youngboy4ts]

Every one here is well educated and well manners except me lol

Every one knows that know one allow disrespecting any one in the public or typing forums. So if you doing that it are not the right thing. 99.99% people here looking for the woman that is not just physical but mentally, emotionally, talking, walking, heartily every way is famine. Even the spot of there body (lower back) they get tattoos is famine I am dame sure none of us Men would have thought about getting tattoo on lower back.

DAN my point is if you treat them as you would treat woman and forget the part of the mistake you will find the relationship because the girl in here is not different then other women.

Peace and
Respect!!!

[Salvador]

I would love to find someone who would understand me and be able to look past what I do for a living.

Tasha

What do you do for a living ? Did I just walk right into that one LOL LOL

Sorry if I missed something here. But if you're doing people for a living that's cool !

But this would be a tough one for most guys to deal with. Maybe you should try to find a guy in the same business.

I'm a good person and I have a solid set up ( creature comforts,cash etc. . . )
So if a guy offers you all that, why continue to do people for a living ?
Or am I missing the fact that you just love doing strangers, . , . ,sort of like a hobby type of thing ?

[Wiseone26]

Every one here is well educated and well manners except me lol

DAN my point is if you treat them as you would treat woman and forget the part of the mistake you will find the relationship because the girl in here is not different then other women.

Peace and
Respect!!!

well put! I just find it awkward with guys due to most having ulterior motives or are players wanting to bag another notch on their belts. It's an assumption that is commonly made, thanks to the porn industry. LOL Like I said I work in a porn store and guys come in, they see me their eyes light up and they head to the bi-trans video section. They look at the cases then glance at me, look at the cases glance at me. Then they get all woo woo when they come to the counter, asking me out or whatever. yea, like I'm easy cause a) work in a porn store b) cause I'm trans. NOT!!!! So my take on most cause that are interested in me is a) chasers b) just want a poke in the bum. I have yet to have one intelligable conversation with a guy that has come into the store. And trying to meet someone online is next to impossible due to the perversion aspect.

People tell me why subject myself to this working in a porn store...why? it's a job, it pays my rent and food...

oh god I'm rambling..I'll shut up..

[Tasha Jones RIP]

Well...No..lol

What do you do for a living ? Did I just walk right into that one LOL LOL

Sorry if I missed something here. But if you're doing people for a living that's cool !

But this would be a tough one for most guys to deal with. Maybe you should try to find a guy in the same business.

I'm a good person and I have a solid set up ( creature comforts,cash etc. . . )
So if a guy offers you all that, why continue to do people for a living ?
Or am I missing the fact that you just love doing strangers, . , . ,sort of like a hobby type of thing ?

I hope this will answer your question...



The fact is, I do love the fun of meeting new people. I love the sex and I really enjoy the chat that goes on because you can be more open when you do not know someone. For me, I seem to open up more then in my personal life because I feel more in control and know this is about sex not dating so I have nothing to hide. As well I have many clients that I know on a personal level for many years.

That being said, money is not everything in life. I do see clients most times to pay for school or bills. But I also do it for fun as well. I do really enjoy it most of the time, so to me it is not always a job. There are those days and clients that make it feel more like work, but that does not happen all that often.

Now, truth be told as some know and others do not. I have been in College the last couple of years. My course ends next month and I will start working in long term care. I already do this, but not full time. At that point I am not sure if I will still see clients or if I will hang up those dusty heels once and for all. This has been such a huge part of my life and the fact is I am well known, so no matter who I date they will also have to know my past.

This may or may not effect how they feel. It really does not matter if I am doing it while I am dating or I am not. I am still running adult sites. I still have movies coming out. I will still do the odd webcam show. I am also on many adult sites. I will not hide my past, so they will have to deal with it. I would also want to be honest with them in case they find out some other way.

The problem in this world is, most guys want us for fun but do not want us for long term. The idea seems great and most say ?I have no problem? but wait till we see someone you know who knows what I am. Wait till that big Family dinner with me on your arm. Or the questions start coming at you ?are you gay?. The fact is most people in the everyday world just think we are gay, so they would think you would be too.

It is easy to say you would be o.k with it and that you would not hide us from your friends and family. But speaking from someone who just got out of a relationship and has gone though all this stuff first hand. Saying it and living it is two total different things. Even though my Ex did movies with me and went to events with me and had no problem being in public and meeting his family. Once some of his old high school friends found out and starting telling the world, everything changed.

As well who I was and who I am will not change because I am seeing clients or not. I still saw clients for over 12 years and I still have websites and videos. I can not change that part, so who ever I date, when I am ready again to date. They will have to make a choice at that time.
So that is my thoughts...hope it helps.



Tasha

[shemale_patriciaM]

Nice posts Tasha...I think you are an amazing person and you will find the right person when the right time comes. Good things happens to good people. Stay who you are and never change for anyone but yourself. More power to you and your longterm care job. Your old friend...Shemale Patricia M.

[tslisaparadise]

I am not going to comment on this topic. I am going though a break up so I am a bit bitter about relashinships right now. But I will one day have anther and hopefully it will last.

Lisa, I know many girls that enjoy being both top & bottom as well as just being a top. It for me personal has nothing to do with money. I enjoy fucking a nice tight round ass then blowing in there face.

Not everything is about money. Some of us girls are looking to spend our life with someone who understands. I would love to find someone who would understand me and be able to look past what I do for a living.

Tasha

oh i can understand that,we all wanna be happy and share our lives with somebody and ive been extremely lucky to have a guy who does understand me and loves me to death,he had no problems with me meeting his family infact encouraged it and now when i talk to his dad its like hes known me for years and never wants to get off the damn phone lol.plus im always fixing his pc lol,he has never dated a ts yet he rented a few before he met me and thats never bothered me in the least as for doing sex for money ya thats the only time ill have sex period ive never done it for free and never will and i love sex as you know but without the money id rather play with myself lol.so its not impossable to fall in love with a tgirl ya just have to find the right one for you.

[Tia Phoenixx]

well put! I just find it awkward with guys due to most having ulterior motives or are players wanting to bag another notch on their belts. It's an assumption that is commonly made, thanks to the porn industry. LOL Like I said I work in a porn store and guys come in, they see me their eyes light up and they head to the bi-trans video section. They look at the cases then glance at me, look at the cases glance at me. Then they get all woo woo when they come to the counter, asking me out or whatever. yea, like I'm easy cause a) work in a porn store b) cause I'm trans. NOT!!!! So my take on most cause that are interested in me is a) chasers b) just want a poke in the bum. I have yet to have one intelligable conversation with a guy that has come into the store. And trying to meet someone online is next to impossible due to the perversion aspect.

People tell me why subject myself to this working in a porn store...why? it's a job, it pays my rent and food...

oh god I'm rambling..I'll shut up..

No u r not rambling. Your opinion is honest and refreshing.
It's nice to know that u r not an escort, but capable to support ur live

BTW, welcome on board

[Tia Phoenixx]

What percentage of passable T-girls do you suppose are looking for a relationship with the man himself and not just his wallet?

There is one here.

The problem is..am i passable..??
Passable for me is simply being pretty and cute. We do not have to be looking like Pamela Anderson in order to be passable right?
As long as he meets my criteria of being a good man, money is not an issue at all.
(Well, it will be if we are both broke. But, i am not broke (at least) at the moment.

[sensual_lover20]

There is one here.

The problem is..am i passable..??
Passable for me is simply being pretty and cute. We do not have to be looking like Pamela Anderson in order to be passable right?
As long as he meets my criteria of being a good man, money is not an issue at all.
(Well, it will be if we are both broke. But, i am not broke (at least) at the moment.

Tia you probably have stashed away over a million dollars by now. I think guys will be chasing you for your money, not the other way around. In some guys eyes, your crossdresser, to some your a beautiful women. Obviously you want a guy who thinks the latter because the first guy is looking for the Pamela Anderson (or Lucy is just as sexy). I am sure though your criteria extends far beyond a good man. Several men you have met in your escort career are good men, but only a marginal fraction you would actually date. Why don't you tell us the criteria

[Wiseone26]

No u r not rambling. Your opinion is honest and refreshing.
It's nice to know that u r not an escort, but capable to support ur live

BTW, welcome on board

Thanks Tia, support barely but I'm doing it. I dabbled in the biz for a bit and just could not wrap my mind around it. I totally respect you girls for what you do. I have a couple of friends that do it and always amazed and concerned.

[Salvador]

that's cool

I hope this will answer your question...



The fact is, I do love the fun of meeting new people. I love the sex and I really enjoy the chat that goes on because you can be more open when you do not know someone. For me, I seem to open up more then in my personal life because I feel more in control and know this is about sex not dating so I have nothing to hide. As well I have many clients that I know on a personal level for many years.

That being said, money is not everything in life. I do see clients most times to pay for school or bills. But I also do it for fun as well. I do really enjoy it most of the time, so to me it is not always a job. There are those days and clients that make it feel more like work, but that does not happen all that often.

Now, truth be told as some know and others do not. I have been in College the last couple of years. My course ends next month and I will start working in long term care. I already do this, but not full time. At that point I am not sure if I will still see clients or if I will hang up those dusty heels once and for all. This has been such a huge part of my life and the fact is I am well known, so no matter who I date they will also have to know my past.

This may or may not effect how they feel. It really does not matter if I am doing it while I am dating or I am not. I am still running adult sites. I still have movies coming out. I will still do the odd webcam show. I am also on many adult sites. I will not hide my past, so they will have to deal with it. I would also want to be honest with them in case they find out some other way.

The problem in this world is, most guys want us for fun but do not want us for long term. The idea seems great and most say ?I have no problem? but wait till we see someone you know who knows what I am. Wait till that big Family dinner with me on your arm. Or the questions start coming at you ?are you gay?. The fact is most people in the everyday world just think we are gay, so they would think you would be too.

It is easy to say you would be o.k with it and that you would not hide us from your friends and family. But speaking from someone who just got out of a relationship and has gone though all this stuff first hand. Saying it and living it is two total different things. Even though my Ex did movies with me and went to events with me and had no problem being in public and meeting his family. Once some of his old high school friends found out and starting telling the world, everything changed.

As well who I was and who I am will not change because I am seeing clients or not. I still saw clients for over 12 years and I still have websites and videos. I can not change that part, so who ever I date, when I am ready again to date. They will have to make a choice at that time.
So that is my thoughts...hope it helps.



Tasha

Well I'm not the judgmental type so feel free. According to your post here though, I was picking everything up correctly. You like what you do.

And that's totally cool !

I could be friends with a woman like you. But I would never let you closer than that.
I think it would get too difficult to deal with, or accept the constant intimacy you have with others. As you say, you open up more with strangers.

One thing you guys don't seem to take into consideration here. Some guys here are just looking for the same thing all guys eventually look for. A significant other.
But it just happens to be, that human evolution has created an expanded area or version of sexual orientation. Put simply, Men type like us, who are attracted to women type like you. You're not being chased any more or less than any GG gets chased. From the start it's about attraction physically. A very natural thing within any orientation. Those of you who work in the sex trade just happen to stand out. Forums like this are where TG attracted guys start out. If there was a place where TG's not in the sex industry hung out, I'd be there instead. I'm just not into developing an intimate relationship with a sex trade worker. But I defend my right to fulfill my natural desires and attractions just as any other person in our society does. I was born this way. My attraction to TG's isn't a choice. So when some of you guys set out to call " tranny chaser " . . . . make sure you're not mixing up a lot of bad apples with good. And remember that being in the sex trade will only attract a lot of bone heads who look at you as objects and nothing more. No different than any other sex trade proprietor gets.

So the loneliness you guys may experience as TG's is not exclusively yours alone.
There are many guys out there who experience the same spiritual and physical emptiness you do. And the sex trade business may sometime be the very barrier that perpetuates the problem.

Again this is not a judgement. Just trying to separate the men from the boys.

[snoodle]

There is one here.

Yes, my dream come true ! Maybe I should pay a visit to Toronto! LOL

[Dani]

There is one here.

The problem is..am i passable..??
Passable for me is simply being pretty and cute. We do not have to be looking like Pamela Anderson in order to be passable right?
As long as he meets my criteria of being a good man, money is not an issue at all.
(Well, it will be if we are both broke. But, i am not broke (at least) at the moment.

Passable is subjective. TS' who aspire to look like Pamela Anderson are always found out; For that matter, Pamela Anderson looks like a TS. Moderation of your manly characteristics is the key. Genetic women aren't overtly feminine, they just act instinctively. If you know you're a woman, then act naturally with confidence; when you feel like a man, you try to hide, and change those mannerisms, but the tremendous effort is obvious to the beholder. There are more TS women out there than you realize; you just can't tell anymore. They don't feel the need to expose that small part of their lives, nor do they feel the need to exaggerate their femininity out of insecurity. They have successfully integrated themselves into society, fulfilling their inner most desire of leading a normal life as possible.

[dan_calgary]

I was totally at peace and comfortable with my companions. We moved in public together exactly as I always did with my ex-wife and all the genetic girls that I have dated.

But somewhere between here and there nothing ever transpired. There was always an issue.

Lets face it, I am interested in the genetalia of tgirls. Just as I have been interested in the genetalia of the many genetic girls I dated. It's all part of the package. I love sex and I'm a very sexual person.

But I also enjoy intelligence, a sense of humour, romance, chatting. Because, the horizontal boogie can't last forever. These other things then come into play and are important.

Would I settle down with the right tgirl? Yes. Would I marry them? Yes. Would I embrace them into my life and share with them yes.

BUT. BUT. BUT.

I have found the tgirls that I have spent time with to be far more judgmental and interested in the superficialities of life than any genetic girl that I have ever dated.

So, I've given up. In fact I won't even see any tgirls here in Toronto any more on any basis.

Just my personal experiences.

As I said at the start maybe it's me.

I feel the same way, EXACTLY, sums it up very very well

I too, have reached the end of a phase, I really have no interest in seeing escorts anymore (can't believe i'm saying this), it has become tiresome, and at the end of the day, empty,

i had fun, i met some great people, I don't care about the money, I'm glad i can afford to help some people out, but i'm tired of it,

since posting this topic, I have had a lot of pm's, i will NOT mention names, but lets just say when it came to getting together for dinner or a drink, money always came up first or seeing one more client first before we go, and i realize i am wasting time.

Maybe it time, that one person will swoop down and we will meet, I'm a patient person, not in any hurry, but i get the feeling it may be a long long long wait.

[Tia Phoenixx]

Passable is subjective. TS' who aspire to look like Pamela Anderson are always found out; For that matter, Pamela Anderson looks like a TS. Moderation of your manly characteristics is the key. Genetic women aren't overtly feminine, they just act instinctively. If you know you're a woman, then act naturally with confidence; when you feel like a man, you try to hide, and change those mannerisms, but the tremendous effort is obvious to the beholder. There are more TS women out there than you realize; you just can't tell anymore. They don't feel the need to expose that small part of their lives, nor do they feel the need to exaggerate their femininity out of insecurity. They have successfully integrated themselves into society, fulfilling their inner most desire of leading a normal life as possible.

U r right.
Actually in most part, i am successfully integrated too.
But again, it is hard to find the right real man for me. I guess due to my profession.

Ok Snoodle..i'm waiting for you here in Toronto !
I will introduce you with the whole gang of my adopted "kids" (read: my pets)

What is my ideal man....hemmm...i guess a smart, decent looking man with a good heart.

Hey Paula..is there any good man in Vancouver...? I love ur city!