Is it next to IMPOSSIBLE to have a Tgirl relationship ???

[tslisaparadise]

Here is the final words from Testicularry to myself:
"Judging by your total lack of balls, I'd guess you're more of a female than any of the shemales on your site!"

I'm so hurt

How does he know that i'm not a shemale too?

maybe cause you look alot like jerry springer lol just a thought

[sadeh]

thumbs up

i bet 90% of tgirls will commit to relationship
here is the challenge tgirls are horny and guys even more horny.

i have had open relationships work best for me, meaning more than one boyfriend, if a guy has so many gal pals then i can have a few boyfriends...

so then there is the monogamous type, who pretty much do everything with their partner......cute

im the adventurous type, my time with him is usually indoor and outdoor,
open communication is so important, i would rather ask, than to assume.

i just realised that one of my neighbours is a female to male , a tboy and his girlfriend is a dyke..
i wonder who wears the strap on...lol

where do you meet, and i'm not referring to escorts,

mind you the escorts i have met, most seem to be very very unhappy with the guy they are with, so go figure.

what are the chances of meeting/dating a tgirl for possible relationship, I have read a few topics, and many guys have mentioned they would love to have a tgirl girlfriend but it is next to impossible (myself included)

what are the issues, and the pros/cons,

i hope i dont ruffle any feathers here, not intended,

tgirl should be, completely passable, full time girl 24/7, takes good care of self and her looks,

not a part time tv/cd, who looks like a guy, no offence intended,

why is it so difficult, obviously # 1 would be not as many tgirls as females out there,

do tgirls prefer variety with guys, cas most tgirls i meet, have a high sex drive,

it would be nice to hear the view of some escorts and what they are looking for in a relationship !

who out there would be serious about having a tgirl relationship ?

what does a tgirl look for in a relationship ?

well, many questions to be asked, im sure this will be an interesting topic, and we will all learn a little bit,

so lets get started,

[dan_calgary]

There is a fundamental problem that prevents we ' tranny-chasers ' having long term relationships with TGirls, the girls see themselves as women, we see them as a 'third sex'. We are attracted to the caterpillar that is transforming into a butterfly. Most of us have little interest in being with a Post op women. Whether we are top or bottom, the energy emitted by that cock on a beautiful women is what drives our attraction.
While many of us may fantasize about the prospect of a real relationship with a beautiful Shemale, and would accept the crap that society would throw at us for it, very few of the girls are content to stay 'between the sexes'.
From my experience TGirls begin by assuming the characteristics of women that men find most attractive and alluring, but as their transition develops they take on the aspects of women that men hate. You may as well be with a GG and avoid all the complications that comes with a TGirl.
For those guys that have found true love with a TGirl all the power to you, for the rest of us we have to settle for nibbling on those expensive caterpillars.

you hit it on the head prettyboy,

I really really really like the term "third sex" as opposed to shemale or transsexual

that is the best viewpoint i've read in years,

what excitement would come from a post-op girl , I mean there would be no climax, no excitement from their point, and you are right, maybe they should stop thinking there are 100% woman, sex is about having fun and loving someone head to toe, and releasing the excitement with each other, what can a post-op release.

Maybe we as "tranny chasers" as we have been called, are 1) looking for an alternative to a genetic girl, cause we are tired of their ways, & whats wrong with that, 2) if we are attracted to a t-girl, and attracted to her sexually as well, why would we want her to change her body part, to something that honestly would turn us right off.

You are so right when you say "we are attracted and excited about the energy" released from a pre-op girl, no one on this forum or any other will argue that point !!!

great post prettyboy

[snoodle]

Yes it is.

Just be careful what you wish for...

I might just come true...

[Wiseone26]

Do I know any t-girls who are not escorts? Is that your question? If so, I know lots of girls who don't work in the industry. Unfortunately for you guys though, you would be considered "tranny chasers" and virtually every single girl I know wants nothing to do with them. That's because you guys like the "trans" part more than the woman part, and your obsession with it would drive most of the girls nuts.

Let me try to explain this.

The whole purpose of transition is to right a wrong so we can get on with "normal" lives. Normal meaning "non trans". For you guys, trans might be a fetish or a fantasy, but for many of us, it's a nightmare. Personally, when I'm finally post-op, I want nothing to do with trans anything. It's been a thorn in my side for decades, and now that I'm finally nearing the end of it, the last thing I want is a boyfriend who won't let it go. Think about it. Would you want a constant reminder of a very painful part of your life that is in your past? Say you were raped as a child. Would you want to hang out with someone who kept obsessing about your rape? I don't think so. Well, it's the same thing, and I know. I've been raped.

It doesn't stop there though. A lot of you guys want a t-girl so you can be topped by one. Well, for a lot of girls, if not the vast majority of them, topping is the last thing we want to do. You are asking us to use a part we don't like, in a very masculine way, which is the complete opposite of everything we are trying to do. I know a lot of girls who have considered escorting, but refused because they don't want to top men.

You are the men. You are the ones who are supposed to be topping. It's not supposed to be the girls.

Of course, there are exceptions to this, just the same as you guys are exceptions to the straight man idea. But for the most part, I can't think of a single girl I know who would keep the penis for any man. I know I wouldn't.

Yup, well put sis. Honestly I've tried to find a relationship and most time the person wants to be discrete or is only look for a poke inthe bum. Seriously, I've been on hormones for 5 years now, it ain't working and the guy expects it too. I work in an adult store, ideal with alot of 'chasers' per say. They look at the video covers, stare at me look at the cover , stare at me. It really creeps me out cause the guy is getting horny and thinking only about sex. I don't think I've met one honest guy that likes me for my heart and not my penis. It's saddening that we just can't be treated like a normal person sometimes.

ps. Haley, I'm moving this week, so if you read this I'll be like 10-15 minute walk from ya, "let's go to an irish pub , drink and fight!" :P

[snoodle]

don't judge us tranny chasers. were not that bad.

[Haley]

No ones really judging you guys. We’re just trying to point out the motivations of the girls.

Most of us don’t want the part you guys love so much. That’s the plain truth. Sure, we can use it to varying degrees, but does that mean we have to love sticking it in things? I know in my case, and my case seems pretty typical among the women I know, the sooner we can get rid of it, the better. I know that’s difficult for you guys to understand, but you also don’t have the issue we have.

I really really really like the term "third sex" as opposed to shemale or transsexual

what excitement would come from a post-op girl , I mean there would be no climax, no excitement from their point, and you are right, maybe they should stop thinking there are 100% woman, sex is about having fun and loving someone head to toe, and releasing the excitement with each other, what can a post-op release.

Maybe we as "tranny chasers" as we have been called, are 1) looking for an alternative to a genetic girl, cause we are tired of their ways, & whats wrong with that, 2) if we are attracted to a t-girl, and attracted to her sexually as well, why would we want her to change her body part, to something that honestly would turn us right off.

You are so right when you say "we are attracted and excited about the energy" released from a pre-op girl, no one on this forum or any other will argue that point !!!

great post prettyboy

No offence Dan, but you should leave the terminology to the girls. I’m sure most of us don’t want to be called the “third sex” or even “transsexual”. You’ll probably find most of us prefer “woman”.

Also, your assumption that a post-op girl can’t climax or have any excitement is wrong. The post-op girl is orgasmic and can still find sex exciting. In fact, all the post-op girls I know think the sex is even better.

You also said, “sex is about having fun and loving someone head to toe,” but then you said “why would we want her to change her body part, to something that honestly would turn us right off.” Does this not sound hypocritical to you?

If you truly love a woman, then you would love her regardless of what’s between her legs. If you truly love the girl, you would never dream of asking her to keep a part she hates.

Try to understand, (not you personally Dan, but everyone) we are trying to fix a birth defect. Most of us are women through and through, but because of a little part between our legs, we have been forced by society to conform to an idea which is not us, and when you guys say things like “I prefer them pre-op” or “they’re not really women”, it’s very disrespectful to us. It also shows you have no interest in us as people, but as a sex toy only. It would be the same if I said I prefer guys in wheelchairs. It’s not about the guy, it’s about the wheelchair. It’s a fetish, and most people want to be loved for something more meaningful than a fetish.

This is why it’ll be very difficult for you guys to ever find a girl who is willing to keep her part for you.

[dan_calgary]

no disrespect was intended Haley,

you are a great girl & i've never met you, YET,

I appreciate your honesty and your discussion of your viewpoint, please understand I meant no disrepect at all.

a great post HALEY, a great post, thnx

you are a sweetheart !!!!

[Foxy Basket]

Excellent post, Haley. You hit the nail right on the head.

It's pretty common for the guys on this forum to define us, categorize us as they see fit. Well, most of us don't try and cram you guys into boxes, like gay, straight, bi, chaser, whatever. We let you define yourselves however you please, or not at all. Please ignore the notable and regrettable exception of some people calling others "fags" all the time, because most of us are more respectful than that; we would appreciate the same courtesy from you.

If I didn't define myself for myself, I would be crunched into other people's fantasies for me and eaten alive. - Audre Lorde

Personally, it seems like the need to define what we are is hindering your pursuit of that elusive love of your life; why not just think of her as a person, nothing more, nothing less?

Dan: you're normally very respectful, but your recent comments about Femmi were a bit unfair. I noticed you told Prettyboy that you trust his judgment, but I also think you owe Femmi an apology. I'm sure it would be appreciated.

In the meantime, don't lose hope - my girlfriend and I (yes, girlfriend, and a genetic girl at that) - are days away from celebrating four wonderful years together. She's been with me through the toughest of times, and she doesn't even mind the stripping and escorting, she knows I don't love her any less because of it. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel; just keep searching, and you'll find the love you seek.

[Tasha Jones RIP]

your so fiesty these days im likin it lol, the truth is i know almost every shemale within 100 miles and not one of us actually likes being a top lol, but we do it for money yes we talk amongst ourselves and yes we all make fun of guys who want to be a bottom and thats the realitty of the situation and no being a bottom doesnt make anyone gay hell im a selfish bitch cause i know if i didnt take it up my butt id be even more craankier then i am lol if thats possible

I am not going to comment on this topic. I am going though a break up so I am a bit bitter about relashinships right now. But I will one day have anther and hopefully it will last.

Lisa, I know many girls that enjoy being both top & bottom as well as just being a top. It for me personal has nothing to do with money. I enjoy fucking a nice tight round ass then blowing in there face.

Not everything is about money. Some of us girls are looking to spend our life with someone who understands. I would love to find someone who would understand me and be able to look past what I do for a living.

Tasha

[toban]

Regarding the futility in the naming of "special" girls/women!

Haley has made an excellent case here for loving a girl as a person, without the necessity of assigning her to a specific category, and that is certainly very fair. Once having met and become lovers, Haley's suggestion can work fine, but this presumes that one has already met their match.

That then does not address the problem that will still remain for those who may be desirous of meeting one particular kind of "person". So, let's say someone may want to search specifically for a girl who has started but not completed her transition, and for the moment let's leave the "why" out of this.

I see some difficulty with his being able to search effectively. How can this search be accomplished, if no specific terminology exists to indentify his desired choice, whether that terminology may be offensive or not, to some? (e.g. I find the term "tranny" very offensive myself.) He might be able to search for a tall, or short, or green, or Hindu or whatever other kind of girl, but how is he to find what he really wishes to find if she can not be identified some way? For that amtter why not eliminate male or female too and just search for "persons"?

What could this Forum be known as that would have any significance to those who are looking for that "special" girl? Surely if it were to be called "SpecialGirl"Forums to avoid the stigma of the formerly used names, then too, in time that name would become offensive because it singles out "special" girls as opposed to calling them women, and we'd be right back at the beginning again.

I must confess though, that this will never become a problem that I will ever have to deal with in my lifetime, simply because I am so far beyond my personal "Best Before Date" that it can never arise.

Just as an example of the futility of name changes to satisfy sensitivities, the population of this continent before it was overrun with Europeans were the "native" (meaning original or natural) inabitants of the American continent. Mistakenly, because when they landed here, the first Europeans didn't know where they were, these people were called "Indians". That became a very poorly regarded term and other names were used, including Natives, Aboriginals with "First Nations" being the appellation in vogue today. So, no matter what they are called, they are still the same people, or at least they are the descendants of those original peoples. Their origin remains a fact, regardless of what they may have been, or are now, called. The appellation means nothing - it is simply a convenience to enable us to deal with that group as opposed to some other group.

I call you Haley, why shouldn't I call you Jeff or Grace or Tom. It is because you are a unique person so you have to be identifiable as being that person, because you are different than Jeff or Tom or Grace or even me, Toban aka Bill!

[Toronto's finest]

i've never seen a real Transexual looking for a realationship ever lol

[sensual_lover20]

i've never seen a real Transexual looking for a realationship ever lol

You haven't met the right ones then.

[Tasha Jones RIP]

i've never seen a real Transexual looking for a realationship ever lol

I have dated many times over the years and was just about to get married. Just because a girl works does not mean she does not wish to share her life with someone.

Dating is also nice, just like normal girls we also like to go to the movies & dinner as well as get nice roses...you just have to be open..

Tasha

[santinocapri]

difficult but never impossible!