Should we bring back moderators?

[Tia Phoenixx]

So what's your story, Tia? When was the last time you seduced a straight guy? Ever do a duo with Barbie? Tell us, tell us!!! We will read.

There is a very interesting thread created by Paula, followed by excellent story of Tasha:

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?t=93672



i will post my personal story soon on that thread when i have more time.

Stay tuned

And now let's go back to the essence of this thread:

Don't we all notice that some senior, good members (willingly) carry some responsibilities of a moderator as well for this forum?

Toban does it. And few others.
They do it simply because they love this community dearly.

But hey...don't we all love this forums as well..?
In other words..hemmm.....(to be continued)

[kristopin]

still an issue of freedom

it is still an issue of freedom.
this week in Russia a gay and lsebian rights demonstration was quickly squashed by the 'authorities' and everyone was wisked away in police vans. i doubt they got a fair hearing. freedom taken away.

if we as a community do not step up and demand our rights then those in a position of power will abuse this lethargy as a sign of submission. anyone that has come from a place where the government is very corrupt and people have no rights or freedoms understand this.

our freedom must be protected. it must be demanded.
the responsability of censorship is our own responsability as adults and informed citizens of perhaps one of the best countries in the world.

we are still faced with trying to get equality for LGBT, in our work places and our governments thought processes. we can only do this if we maintain our selves as 'free' people. the more we push for freedom the more we will get.

if the comments or language of some posts is offensive then ignore it. it only has power if we react to it. dont react it has no power. if you find someones posts seem to be attacking you or you find them annoying then us the PM to express your distaste.

ass i said before, dont hit the send/submit button until you re-read your post, it will give you a chance to pause and perhaps change your mind or words.

cheers all.

[Tia Phoenixx]

In other words...see quote below, kristopin just answered indirectly..


[quote=kristopin;192767]
ass i said before, dont hit the send/submit button until you re-read your post, it will give you a chance to pause and perhaps change your mind or words.
quote]

Yes, we can be a moderator at least for ourselves, by being responsible and thoughtful.

but...
1. How many people can be thoughtful and responsible...?
2. How many people can create, improve, or at least maintain the attractivity of a thread without losing its essence and originality?
3. How many people who are willing to create interesting thread continuosly..?
4. How many people who really care about the popularity of this forum?
5. How many people do have an active mind and creativity to make this forum more popular..?
6.Etc...

Those questions are very challenging...!
And based on that questions, we (again) need a moderator here.

Ah..actually the responsibilities of a moderator can be very interesting in order to make this forums more popular, interesting, and more "stylist".
but i guess, we are all busy with our lives.

And I, personally is too busy at the moment.
(Stock market is on "bear rally" right now..and i'm going to take some advantage of it)


good nite folks!

[Rantsalot]

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[quote=Tia Phoenixx;192774]In other words...see quote below, kristopin just answered indirectly..

ass i said before, dont hit the send/submit button until you re-read your post, it will give you a chance to pause and perhaps change your mind or words.
quote]

Yes, we can be a moderator at least for ourselves, by being responsible and thoughtful.

but...
1. How many people can be thoughtful and responsible...?
2. How many people can create, improve, or at least maintain the attractivity of a thread without losing its essence and originality?
3. How many people who are willing to create interesting thread continuosly..?
4. How many people who really care about the popularity of this forum?
5. How many people do have an active mind and creativity to make this forum more popular..?
6.Etc...

Those questions are very challenging...!
And based on that questions, we (again) need a moderator here.

Ah..actually the responsibilities of a moderator can be very interesting in order to make this forums more popular, interesting, and more "stylist".
but i guess, we are all busy with our lives.

And I, personally is too busy at the moment.
(Stock market is on "bear rally" right now..and i'm going to take some advantage of it)


good nite folks!

I made some of these points earlier. It still doesn't justify why we need or don't need a moderator.

Looking at the votes I wonder if people would have chosen an option if it wasn't an anonymous poll. Some people here have graciously stated the reason(s) they said yes and it just makes me wonder not why but who chose no.

[tslisaparadise]

[quote=Rantsalot;192778]

In other words...see quote below, kristopin just answered indirectly..




I made some of these points earlier. It still doesn't justify why we need or don't need a moderator.

Looking at the votes I wonder if people would have chosen an option if it wasn't an anonymous poll. Some people here have graciously stated the reason(s) they said yes and it just makes me wonder not why but who chose no.

SHOCKINGLY I VOTED NO I JUST FIGURE I HAVE A BETTER SHOT OF NOT GETTING BANNED THAT WAY LOL

[kristopin]

still about freedom

i have said before but this is still an issue of freedom, atleast for me.

in our great LGBT community we are all so individual but also the same.

to get a little poetic, if you go into our wonderful wilderness and look at all the trees you will see thay are all different, maples, jack pines. a stand of jack pines is marvelous to see. they stand row upon row all tall, all standing straight, but everyone of them has different branches. think about this and how it reflects who we are. all the same all different.

the difference between us and trees is consciousness. we are not without emotions and this gives us such a greater depth of existence.

now emotions also means that we are going to make errors in judgement. if someone does put out a post that is cruel or mean spirited, or even hateful, then this is en expression of an emotional state. we are not always going to be happy. lots of people live with alot of pain in their lives and it spills over into the forum.

sometimes posts are a cry for help. they may not be nice they may just be something that one of your friends here sees and realises you need are not having a good day. this gives us the opportunity to help. give a call to a friend. send a pm.

i remember when Janllani lost here brother and the our pouring of love and support she got from us. i am sure it meant a lot to her and helped her.

so when we see a post that we dont like or have strong feelings about then we need to be able to respond.

would moderators be able to understand the subtle nuances of someones post that indicate they are in trouble?

i remember a post that was directed at me and could have been construed by a moderator as an attack. in fact it was a slap in the face i needed.

so as far as moderators go, i am still not in favor of this.
let us be who we are in all our glory and ugliness. i think we can handle it.

again self censorship is the est way to go.

also if you are having a 'problem' with someone try to pm and talk it oout or call them and have coffee. you may find yourself another great friend.


cheers all happy long weekend, try to keep warm.

[saluki17]

First of all, for the record, I voted yes. I don't generally comment much, for many reasons. I just thought I would throw my pennies in.

First of all, Kristopin, we get it, you think it's about freedom. I think the horse is dead. Of course, there are many sides to freedom. The right to free speech doesn't give a person the right to yell fire in a crowded theater, to use an old example. It doesn't give a person the right to use their words to create an environment of hate. I find it somewhat ironic that members of this forum speak about wanting members of the LGBT community to gain a more powerful place in society, where they don't have to worry about hiding their orientation, and yet are willing to support a person's right to personally attack other people. We don't like it when others call us names on the street, in the bars and in our places of business, but it's OK for us to do so in this fourm, where there is little chance of a person having to stand by what they say.

That being said, I have no problem with continuing to have these kinds of "discussions", and I use that term loosely, if that is what the community wants. As it has been said many times, it is easy for someone to simply ignore those threads where the ranting and raving occurs. I actually didn't vote in favor of mods returning because of those threads. For me, it is more about the logistics of the forum. I moderate a board for posting images and we spend a lot of time policing illegal posts, spam attacks, etc., and I am more concerned about those issues. I do think it is possible for people to go too far with the personal attacks, however, and having someone who can step in and have the ability to calm the situation down would make this a more welcoming place, which in a lot of ways a community is supposed to be.

I would suggest that the community should come up with a set up guidelines for use of the community, which would include not only logistical issues, but also attempt to define what is and isn't acceptable in the way of content of discussion posts. I would advocate for a loose set of rules that would serve as a guide for users so that we can deal with each other civilly.

A final note: The problem is often, in my opinion, not the original post, but the responses to that post. If Barbie wants to post one of her well-known stories, that's great. Reda them if you want. But don't respond by attacking her. That's when the problems start.

[Lani]

yes! to Saluki...But not to Moderators

First of all, for the record, I voted yes. I don't generally comment much, for many reasons. I just thought I would throw my pennies in.

First of all, Kristopin, we get it, you think it's about freedom. I think the horse is dead. Of course, there are many sides to freedom. The right to free speech doesn't give a person the right to yell fire in a crowded theater, to use an old example. It doesn't give a person the right to use their words to create an environment of hate. I find it somewhat ironic that members of this forum speak about wanting members of the LGBT community to gain a more powerful place in society, where they don't have to worry about hiding their orientation, and yet are willing to support a person's right to personally attack other people. We don't like it when others call us names on the street, in the bars and in our places of business, but it's OK for us to do so in this fourm, where there is little chance of a person having to stand by what they say.

That being said, I have no problem with continuing to have these kinds of "discussions", and I use that term loosely, if that is what the community wants. As it has been said many times, it is easy for someone to simply ignore those threads where the ranting and raving occurs. I actually didn't vote in favor of mods returning because of those threads. For me, it is more about the logistics of the forum. I moderate a board for posting images and we spend a lot of time policing illegal posts, spam attacks, etc., and I am more concerned about those issues. I do think it is possible for people to go too far with the personal attacks, however, and having someone who can step in and have the ability to calm the situation down would make this a more welcoming place, which in a lot of ways a community is supposed to be.

I would suggest that the community should come up with a set up guidelines for use of the community, which would include not only logistical issues, but also attempt to define what is and isn't acceptable in the way of content of discussion posts. I would advocate for a loose set of rules that would serve as a guide for users so that we can deal with each other civilly.

A final note: The problem is often, in my opinion, not the original post, but the responses to that post. If Barbie wants to post one of her well-known stories, that's great. Reda them if you want. But don't respond by attacking her. That's when the problems start.

CO-SIGN and you can add my stamp on that too, good one Saluki.

But I don't think that moderators are needed anymore (as being biased is inevitable to happen sooner than later). If the management would just implement the infractions system (I'm not sure, maybe it's still is) that was imposed sometime ago, those infractions will deterred all the shenanigans that we have witnessed in here lately. And no I didn't vote in this polls, (I hate polls).

[sensual_lover20]

I didn't vote either. I do not see the need for moderators here. What you write can come back to haunt you and that's your problem for posting it. Personal information should obviously be edited.

[kristopin]

poles

ok i just had to no intention on hurt here.

i live near a lot of poles and they are great people.

anyway as far as moderators. it's upto admin to decide. it could be done on the quiet and we'd never know.

this site offeres entertanment (the wars), information (STD) and so on.

live and let live. enjoy.

afterall as someone once put it

"we are dust in the wind"

to all

[snoodle]

where...?

In Montreal. You never visit

[Tia Phoenixx]

In Montreal. You never visit

ha..ha...my Snoodle i know u r in Montreal. "where" was meant to be a symbol of my loneliness at the time, since u were not there for me...
I will..i will...someday...wait for me...

[sensual_lover20]

ha..ha...my Snoodle i know u r in Montreal. "where" was meant to be a symbol of my loneliness at the time, since u were not there for me...
I will..i will...someday...wait for me...

He will wait.

[kristopin]

montreal

He will wait.

montreal is my home town. still love the place.