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**BIG MIKE** · 04-11-2014, 11:02 AM

Since the subject has gone to the the psychedelic realm, my favourite song from The Doors:

**Guest** · 04-12-2014, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Babe View Post

Hi Mike,

The Doors were okay. Just "okay" for me. I was not a big Doors fan.

Jim sounded like some guy my parents would like. He never sounded like a rock star to me , really. To me, Jim always sounded like one of my parents' idols trying to sing rock music.

Love Her Madly
Light My Fire
Peace Frog
Riders On The Storm
Love Me Two Times

The End
L.A. Woman
Touch Me
Roadhouse Blues
People Are Strange
Hello, I Love You

Kind of like;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUaHWAJ9_4

Babe,
xoxo

**Guest** · 04-12-2014, 07:00 PM

Thin Lizzy Documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WBNMVBACcU

**Guest** · 04-25-2014, 02:45 PM

Led Zeppelin 1

Originally posted by Babe View Post

LED ZEPPELIN 1

The album was recorded in 30 hours in October 1968 and the album was released in January 1969.
The first album catapulted Led Zeppelin into rock stardom once Led Zeppelin 2 was released in October 1969 and the smash hit Whole Lotta Love (also stolen) hit the air waves.

When the second album came out, everyone and their brother proclaimed Jimmy Page as a musical genius, a first-rate blues man/blues writer and a world class rock/blues guitarist and folk music songwriter/innovator.
When you read the credits on the back of the album cover and saw how many musical instruments Jimmy played, who was to doubt he was a great writer.
Led Zeppelin hardly gave anybody credit for the songs they stole.
And for years, they made millions and millions of dollars while many of the REAL blues men they ripped off were living in poverty in some cases.

Finally, in the 1980s, the black American blues men came after the mighty Zeppelin and dragged them off to court and the blues men won and sued Zeppelin.
It was kept pretty quiet.

Since that time, all new records and song books, etc etc, now show the corrected credit changes, but, for the other songwriters who did not go after Zeppelin or who had died, Zeppelin still left their names in the credits and only shared credit with the original composers.

It's true that those songs in their original form were NOTHING compared to what Jimmy Page did with them, He re-arranged the songs into classic rock anthems. And for that fact, alone, Jimmy Page is really a true musical genius. and the mighty Led Zeppelin will always be musical legends.

It's just too bad they were so convinced that the original blues men would have never put two and two together and figured out they were actually ripped off for who can say how many millions of dollars, plus all the fame the could have received when they were young enough to really benefit from the fame.

I use to really love Led Zeppelin, and i began playing guitar, trying to be like a Jimmy Page.

I still own a Led Zeppelin Complete Songbook from years ago, in which all of the songs for the first five albums were credited to either Jimmy Page, alone, or in collaboration with the drummer and bassist. The singer was not allowed to get any credit because he was still under contract with his previous band.
The songs, You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You, Baby, were not in the songbook as Led Zep DID give Willie Dixon credit for these two songs on Led Zep 1.

I am not saying that Zeppelin stinks or can't write songs, because they have written some great rock songs, themselves.
Their stage performances are legendary, and Jimmy Page is a great guitar and recording studio innovator and producer.

In this expos?, i present the album Led Zeppelin 1 with the songs in the same order as on the original release but i present the original versions of the songs recorded by those artists who wrote the songs or by other artists who first recorded them.
If you want to hear the Zeppelinized versions of the songs, just search youtube for them and have a listen. The Zeppelin versions are far better, of course, but it didn't mean they could simply not give credit to the original composers.

SIDE ONE

Good Times Bad Times (performed by Led Zeppelin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJLxuqJO8zo

Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You 1964
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jqPZ8L-yWo

You Shook Me (Willie Dixon)
(performed by Led Zeppelin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5arxGd_GPQ
The whole idea of recording You Shook Me was stolen from Jeff Beck who had just released the same song before Zeppelin recorded it.
Jimmy Page was able to hear the song on Jeff Beck's album, Truth, which was recorded between 1966-68 and was released in August 1968.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya_Vu5e8yrw

Dazed And Confused 1967
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc

Jimmy Page saw Jake Holmes performing Dazed and Confused in Greenwhich Village in 1967 and Page began using it in The Yardbirds' sets, but with a new, heavier arrangement.

Notice how they still used Holmes' original lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vcMk_6J7Bs

Of course, once Led Zeppelin was formed, Robert Plant rewrote the lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdYMWng9lM

It didn't Led Zep to arrange Jake Holmes' Dazed and Confused into a tour de force which ended up being a 28 minutes epic performance during each of their shows. A Zep concert was not a Zep concert if this was not performed. This live performance is the version from their movie, The Song Remains The Same.In which they incorporate the song, San Francisco, written by John Phillips (of the Mamas and the Papas) lol AMAZING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQgYn23Xvck

Jake Holmes did, finally, take Jimmy Page to court in 2010 but it appears they settled out of court.

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/...4789/476306/27

Jake Holmes, early in his career (after Dazed And Confused) made his money by writing popular jingles.

For more on Jake Holmes, see the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Holmes

SIDE TWO

Your Time Is Gonna Come (performed by Led Zeppelin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssblRRCgmg
The main guitar hook from the 1967 song, Dear Mr Fantasy, written by Traffic, is incorporated into this Zep song just a little too much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxVlN-LzIks

Black Mountain Side 1966
This song is actually an old traditional piece of folk music which nobody can own.
Page credits himself as the writer, though. Odd?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkX7Q2J7k48

Communication Breakdown (performed by Led Zeppelin)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOZCAjcYurE

I Can't Quit You, Baby (Willie Dixon)
(performed by Led Zeppelin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g5Ypz74jQw

How Many More Times

The last song on the album requires a lot of explaining which i will try to explain clearly.

Led Zeppelin were something else. If they were not stealing from the original artist(s), they were stealing other bands' cover versions.

So, anyway, the last "song" on Led Zep 1 is really quite amazing when we hear just how many parts from other peoples' songs were lifted and then used to create the final mix of How Many More Times.

Let's break down How Many More Times into segments because that what the song is - it's a bunch of different segments from other peoples' songs.

Segment 1

First, let's start with where the song came from:
Howling Wolf - How Many More Years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KscTGv_Jl4c

Next, we hear Fleetwood Mac's 1968 song, No Place To Go, which is a cover version of Howling Wolf's How many More Years, which one line Led Zep lifted from Fleetwood Mac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eoOEd5S6DM

Anyway, though Fleetwood Mac used Howling Wolf's song, How Many More Years, and even changed the name of it to, No Place To Hide, they still had the decency to fully credit Howling Wolf as the song writer (and that's how it should be). And yes, i know that many people will say, "Well, back then, and since forever, that's how it was - parts of songs were borrowed and used by many artists". I say, if that was the case, why would Fleetwood Mac credit Howling Wolf?

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Segment 2a (Beginning of first guitar solo)
The Yardbirds - Shapes Of Things

Most real Led Zeppelin fans know that Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page were both in The Yardbirds' final line up before Page formed Led Zeppelin.
Jimmy Page took the repeating, two-chord rhythm guitar chords from Jeff Beck's solo section (from The Yardbirds recording) located at 01:34 in Shapes Of Things, and he, Jimmy, played it slower and used it in How Many More Times' first guitar solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc17DqcA6Qc

Segment 2b (Ending of first guitar solo)
Beck's Bolero (1967)

Just after the Yardbirds broke up (before Zep was formed), Page and Beck were thinking of forming a new band with The Who's drummer and the bassist who were thinking of leaving The Who because they were fed of Pete Townsend's full control over The Who.
The four of them had a jam session in a studio and they recorded, Beck's Bolero.
Apparently, Page claims to have written the rhythm guitar part and says Beck wrote the guitar solo parts. But i have read somewhere where Beck claims full credit for the song and says Page had merely "played" rhythm guitar on that track. Who to believe? I would believe Beck considering Page's long history of musical plagiarism.

So anyway, Jimmy uses the the main rhythm guitar part from Beck's Bolero to serve as the background to climax his first guitar solo in How Many More Times which begins at 03:10 of How Many More Times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm

OZC6Ifk

I read in an article where Jeff Beck, after hearing Zeppelin's first album, and heard How Many More Times, and You Shook Me, just looked at Jimmy and, in shock, asked Jimmy, "WHY?"
To which, Jimmy just smiled and shrugged his shoulders at Beck.

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Segment 3 (The next solo with the bow)

Jimmy Page at 03:38, returns right back to Dazed And Confused by using the violin bow in How Many More Times, while the singer, Robert Plant, improvises on the microphone.
It's interesting how Plant starts singing the words to the "Steal away, Now. Steal away." part, because so far, most of the songs' different parts have been stolen lol.

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Segment 4

At 06:16 we hear another song being stolen.
Albert King -The Hunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55-Tec2S0r0

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Segment 5

Well, this segment simply returns right back to segment 1 where the songs concludes to a climaxed ending.

Listen to all of those songs first and then listen to Zep's version below and see if you can hear them in the song.

How Many More Times (performed by Led Zeppelin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF5QWo4y2tA

Many people think Jimmy Page of The Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin was the first to play the guitar with a violin bow.
Actually Jimmy got the idea from guitarist Eddie Phillips of the band called, The Creation who first used the violin bow on a guitar two years before Jimmy Page used it in the Yardbirds.
The Creation's only LP record, We Re The Paintermen, was released in back 1967.
Here are two songs from that record which features Phillips using the violin bow on the guitar.

Painter Man was a big hit for The Creation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCxF5lQ82sU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzeJeoZObuU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hEb2vOOaxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xpONvYyFvQ

Later, The Yardbirds' Jimmy Page began using the bow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nffOFchvhW8

Babe,
xoxo

**Guest** · 04-26-2014, 11:52 AM

Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush

Montreal's Mahogany Rush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gHseYeoGNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulEqEqhbKuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo8ZRKjwmGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cextxQZz28o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JtXMRkvHc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUW5m8TKeE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxXFs2ZH01w

Check out Frank's site and hear all the music (every album, for free).
http://mahoganyrush.com/

Frank Marino is Canada's BEST and most under rated guitarist. He no longer cares about selling records because he is against the music industry. He would rather you go see him play live on stage.

Go see Frank Marino perform if he is going to your town.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U2BFqtWTLU

**Rockheart** · 04-27-2014, 10:25 PM

**Guest** · 04-28-2014, 08:28 AM

Michel Pagliaro

Originally posted by Babe View Post

Montreal's Pagliaro

Michel Pagliaro was very successful having hits in both of Canada's official languages.

His English language hits were recorded at Abbey Road Studios and really have a Beatles feel to them. They were huge across Canada i am sure.

His French language hits were only popular in Quebec and maybe in France where he's been living for a long time.
He returns to Montreal every now and then to touch base with his hometown and friends but i think he misses the poutine, smoked meat sandwiches and watching Montreal strippers. Heck, who doesn't like Montreal strippers (oh yea, i forgot, Toronto strippers don't like them).

Babe,
xoxo

**Shyla Wild** · 04-28-2014, 09:00 AM

1920s New Orleans Style Sweet Child O Mine

**Anji** · 04-29-2014, 11:55 AM

**Guest** · 04-29-2014, 12:18 PM

The Guess WHo - Share The Land

Originally posted by Babe View Post

Winnipeg's The Guess Who

What a great band.
Burton Cummings' voice is truly a voice of Canada.

I was first introduced to The Guess Who with the Share The Land album, which i wore out playing my broomstick guitar and singing into my hairbrush microphone in front of the mirror.
Of course, i knew of their previous as they were on the radio a lot.
The song American Woman was a big hit but i didn't really like it too much as it was a little too "iconic" and not special enough for me.
It's a great song but...too...i can't find the word...maybe ..."predictable".
Maybe "too overplayed" best describes how i feel about American Woman.

Share the Land was given to me and i, instantly, liked it.

So let's have a listen to it.

Babe,
xoxo