Hate Breeds Hate

[Alexis]

I hope you're keeping a good and naughty eye on me :P tee hee xxx

Oh I am..

I got a few boys too that are interested in duo's with whomever it is that I wanna fuck the most.. lol..

I have a list..

Seem they like the idea of watching me fuck some lil thing with that big 8" ( it's actually 8.5" )

There's also a few girls here that I'd love to have over for a visit to my dungeon..

You could be one of those Jizelle.. Bring your BF too..

[Dita Dior]

Some of the change here is that I have turned into a complete prick.

I have gone out of my way for many people in this community for over a dozen years.

However I am still waiting for one person to go out of their way for me.
I have even tried paying them.

crag i used to think you were a prick your not,
i was not in the right mind frame and mentality to know who the true you was.
and you were only helping me. and i thank you


as for whatever you are talking about i don't know what your talking about.

[toban]

A few minutes ago I received the e-mail (copied below) and particularly in view of the distasteful tenor of so many of the posts in these threads I think is appropriate for me to post here this afternoon. Things, hurtful things, are being said here when they need not be. Hopefully a sense of decency will soon return to these pages!!!

"Nails In A Fence"

There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His Father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

The first day, the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence..Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all.

He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.

The days passed and finally the young boy was able to tell his father that all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and led him back to the fence and said, “You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same.

When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this".

"You can put a knife into a man and draw it out, but it won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound will still be there. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one".

.....

[tslisaparadise]

A few minutes ago I received the e-mail (copied below) and particularly in view of the distasteful tenor of so many of the posts in these threads I think is appropriate for me to post here this afternoon. Things, hurtful things, are being said here when they need not be. Hopefully a sense of decency will soon return to these pages!!!

"Nails In A Fence"

There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His Father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

The first day, the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence..Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all.

He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.

The days passed and finally the young boy was able to tell his father that all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and led him back to the fence and said, ?You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same.

When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this. You can put a knife into a man and draw it out, but it won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound will still be there. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one".

.....

nice story,the fact that crag hasnt banned her from his own site actually boggles the mind either hes a sucker for punishment or hes playing with her lol but i cant help but think how victoria would handle it lol id bet jizz would be banned for sure lol.i know if i got screwed theres no freakin way id let her in my site period end of story.

[Raging Bob]

Wow...I was gone for one day, and BOOM!!!

*Slowly backs out of the room*

[Rantsalot]

...

This thread was originally intended to bring peace among all members and also to in turn politely teach those in a discreet manner to just mellow out sadly it hasn't happened. I'm just going to say what I've wanted to say for the longest while and be done with it and hopefully this will be the catalyst to bring about some peace.

I am leaving out names with this response but I am sure most will be able to figure out what i'm talking about:

In regards to a certain individuals return after a long hiatus I can understand how they would want to come back and promote themselves if that was the intention but if they knew beforehand that they were on rocky terms with another here wouldn't it have been more prudent to try and reconcile differences before making a grand entrance and saying things in the heat of the moment only to regret it later? I mean, yes , considering what this site is about it makes sense to get into peoples faces and garner attention but to have played it smart that person could've maybe said something along they lines that they were returning for an undisclosed amount of time and then see what actions if any would've ensued. Of course I know nothing of the history of this said person, maybe they did try and reconcile or maybe they just came back to cause issues, who knows.

What boggles me though are those who are interjecting in this persons affairs considering that they have nothing to do with the situation. To just go out and say " looking out for my own" or " this should be removed" or anything along the lines like that is no ones business. Not I or any other member should be saying anything on the matter on a dispute like this, that in itself is totally ignorant. Sadly though I had to say this though to get a point across.

As to the person who is getting a mouthful from the return of the said individual they are a renowned person in the t girl channel. They nor any other member should have any personal information divulged onto this or any other site. One could even argue a breach of privacy on the matter. This person who I am talking about who just happens to own this site has also made their case about what transpired between the other party. Perhaps it would've been good to maybe give like perhaps "limited permission" to the site. You know, like, no PMs or what not. From their vantage point though it is completely understandable as to their reactions though but maybe just walking away for a while could help.

To use an analogy I'll say this. If you ride in my car and you ask me to smoke and i say no then I expect you to understand that no means no. It's MY car not yours. Now if someone lit up a cig before asking me I'd say put it out and I'd say don't do it again and if they did they would never be in my car again. If they smoked after I told them not too I would tell them to either get out , especially if I didnt know them for that long or pending on how long I've known them I'd say finish what youre doning but it's the last time you'll do this in my car. Gotta keep a balance of course. there is always compromise i.e. if that person needs to smoke I'd park the care with the windows open for a few minutes and let em do what they're doing/ Again though , all depends on the peopel involved.


Seems that there is also some finger pointing to the governing bodies. the popular complaints are too little is done or too much is done. It's a no win situation either way. What one person wants another doesn't and in the end those who try and maintain some peace are branded as abusive or even worse have their integrity questioned, which in turn is kinda funny how those who say not to judge are those judging themselves. What are ya gonna do? The popular answer to that question is get the Ghostbusters....wait...thats Who you gonna call.....those reading I am sure understand that there really is no answer. Just trudge on. Oh well, its sad really that impartiality can not wholly exist here

There are members here as well that for some reason find it necessary to post just about anything about everything here and most about what is said doesn't even relate to helping the t girl community at all. Why say things and do things that only cause issues for them self and those they involve. It makes everyone who come here think many things. Newbies I would imagine those new to this scene would be turned off and think "wow are all people here like this" and I can not speak for vets but as I would consider myself a vet I would suspect perhaps " the madness is unnecessary and should stop" as no one benefits.

Well. That's that. Perhaps there will be a nice calming wind that will come after this maelstrom. I just hope people who look at these forecasts can prepare in the future for these excessive weather patterns.

[Tia Phoenixx]

nice story,the fact that crag hasnt banned her from his own site actually boggles the mind either hes a sucker for punishment or hes playing with her lol but i cant help but think how victoria would handle it lol id bet jizz would be banned for sure lol.i know if i got screwed theres no freakin way id let her in my site period end of story.

lol.. i agree with you actually.

And talking about Victoria...i miss her persona here on the forums.
Victoria created this forums years back because she truly wanted to form and unite tgirl community in Canada, especially in Toronto at the time. It`s truly based on her own good will...and nothing more i believe. she is simply a sweet girl with a big heart.

Crag continues with the intention of bringing more professionalism...and he`s still working on it.

Both are indeed good people, though none of them, including all of us, are perfect.
However, as you and Rantsie have already mentioned...they give us free access to promote ourselves in here...and this privilege need to be respected.

In other words, be a good guest... not a bad one

[Shyla Wild]

This was more the type of response I was looking for. This is moving in a positive direction.

A few minutes ago I received the e-mail (copied below) and particularly in view of the distasteful tenor of so many of the posts in these threads I think is appropriate for me to post here this afternoon. Things, hurtful things, are being said here when they need not be. Hopefully a sense of decency will soon return to these pages!!!

"Nails In A Fence"

There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His Father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

The first day, the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence..Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all.

He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.

The days passed and finally the young boy was able to tell his father that all the nails were gone. The father took his son by the hand and led him back to the fence and said, ?You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same.

When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this. You can put a knife into a man and draw it out, but it won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound will still be there. A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one".

.....

This thread was originally intended to bring peace among all members and also to in turn politely teach those in a discreet manner to just mellow out sadly it hasn't happened. I'm just going to say what I've wanted to say for the longest while and be done with it and hopefully this will be the catalyst to bring about some peace.

I am leaving out names with this response but I am sure most will be able to figure out what i'm talking about:

In regards to a certain individuals return after a long hiatus I can understand how they would want to come back and promote themselves if that was the intention but if they knew beforehand that they were on rocky terms with another here wouldn't it have been more prudent to try and reconcile differences before making a grand entrance and saying things in the heat of the moment only to regret it later? I mean, yes , considering what this site is about it makes sense to get into peoples faces and garner attention but to have played it smart that person could've maybe said something along they lines that they were returning for an undisclosed amount of time and then see what actions if any would've ensued. Of course I know nothing of the history of this said person, maybe they did try and reconcile or maybe they just came back to cause issues, who knows.

What boggles me though are those who are interjecting in this persons affairs considering that they have nothing to do with the situation. To just go out and say " looking out for my own" or " this should be removed" or anything along the lines like that is no ones business. Not I or any other member should be saying anything on the matter on a dispute like this, that in itself is totally ignorant. Sadly though I had to say this though to get a point across.

As to the person who is getting a mouthful from the return of the said individual they are a renowned person in the t girl channel. They nor any other member should have any personal information divulged onto this or any other site. One could even argue a breach of privacy on the matter. This person who I am talking about who just happens to own this site has also made their case about what transpired between the other party. Perhaps it would've been good to maybe give like perhaps "limited permission" to the site. You know, like, no PMs or what not. From their vantage point though it is completely understandable as to their reactions though but maybe just walking away for a while could help.

To use an analogy I'll say this. If you ride in my car and you ask me to smoke and i say no then I expect you to understand that no means no. It's MY car not yours. Now if someone lit up a cig before asking me I'd say put it out and I'd say don't do it again and if they did they would never be in my car again. If they smoked after I told them not too I would tell them to either get out , especially if I didnt know them for that long or pending on how long I've known them I'd say finish what youre doning but it's the last time you'll do this in my car. Gotta keep a balance of course. there is always compromise i.e. if that person needs to smoke I'd park the care with the windows open for a few minutes and let em do what they're doing/ Again though , all depends on the peopel involved.


Seems that there is also some finger pointing to the governing bodies. the popular complaints are too little is done or too much is done. It's a no win situation either way. What one person wants another doesn't and in the end those who try and maintain some peace are branded as abusive or even worse have their integrity questioned, which in turn is kinda funny how those who say not to judge are those judging themselves. What are ya gonna do? The popular answer to that question is get the Ghostbusters....wait...thats Who you gonna call.....those reading I am sure understand that there really is no answer. Just trudge on. Oh well, its sad really that impartiality can not wholly exist here

There are members here as well that for some reason find it necessary to post just about anything about everything here and most about what is said doesn't even relate to helping the t girl community at all. Why say things and do things that only cause issues for them self and those they involve. It makes everyone who come here think many things. Newbies I would imagine those new to this scene would be turned off and think "wow are all people here like this" and I can not speak for vets but as I would consider myself a vet I would suspect perhaps " the madness is unnecessary and should stop" as no one benefits.

Well. That's that. Perhaps there will be a nice calming wind that will come after this maelstrom. I just hope people who look at these forecasts can prepare in the future for these excessive weather patterns.

In other words, be a good guest... not a bad one

[Jizellemoore]

Remember only God holds the power to judge us. All you can do is try to make things as right as you can, and ask for forgiveness. Which I have and it has been declined. End of story. Again I'm done discussing any further details about it.

I won't leave the forum though

[Tia Phoenixx]

Remember only God holds the power to judge us. All you can do is try to make things as right as you can, and ask for forgiveness

Agree
Btw, i'm not saying that you are the bad one Jizelle..i know nothing about your problem with Crag.
You are a smart and pretty girl, and you will develop so much and hopefully become wiser in the future.

But again, as Shyla has quoted some comments from Toban and Rantsie ( i mean Ransalot..Rantsie is just cuter for me lol) which i totally agree:
We all are guests here, including me and everything that we say will leave scar and long lasting impression on others.

I'm sure you understand what i mean by now.

Good night...and oh...I miss Canada...and can't wait to do my road trip again to Nova scotia, Labrador and Newfoundland

[Bawb]

My $0.02

A tenet that I try to live by: "Tis better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"
Works for me

[Rockheart]

Agree
Btw, i'm not saying that you are the bad one Jizelle..i know nothing about your problem with Crag.
You are a smart and pretty girl, and you will develop so much and hopefully become wiser in the future.

But again, as Shyla has quoted some comments from Toban and Rantsie ( i mean Ransalot..Rantsie is just cuter for me lol) which i totally agree:
We all are guests here, including me and everything that we say will leave scar and long lasting impression on others.

I'm sure you understand what i mean by now.

Good night...and oh...I miss Canada...and can't wait to do my road trip again to Nova scotia, Labrador and Newfoundland

Well i am on vacation in Hong Kong and Thailand.
She picked this time to show up with her boyfriend and promote her stuff.
I PM'd her and said she was not welcome to do this.
She persisted to attack me etc.
Ruined my relaxing vacation, now I am mad as hell.

She is young and maybe doesn't understand that some things are not forgiven.
Blood relatives may but other people may not.

Anyway I truly have nothing against anyone, and the spats with you Tia were mostly in the name of getting control of the forum.
When I aquired it really was a bit dicey here.

Anyways
cheers

[Jizellemoore]

I appreciate the wise words Tia

Nothing that has been said by anyone has gone unacknowledged or unthought about. I can see where my image can be misguided to those who are not aware of the situation to begin with. However, I know who I am and with time more people will too. That being said, just a quick response to being called a bitch...yes well I am a bitch, as to me it stands for:

B eautiful
I ndependent
T girl
C ausing
H ardons

tee hee!!

[smoothoperator]

Cant we all get along? One Love

[Shyla Wild]

Most of us realize that we are a product of our choices and experiences. This means that we have the power to control the person we are and the person would like to be. This would also mean that we should make choices and live experiences that will shape us into the person we want to be in the future.

We are given very little time on this Earth. Look at history. Look at your own family trees. Most of us will be forgotten within 50-70 years of our deaths. Sad, but the harsh truth. Make the most of the time given to you, for you will be remembered for what you did or did not do.