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  • #46
    Originally posted by greep View Post
    If I an Bisexual for liking you..than you must be a guy. Right. (psst: I think you're the one in denial )

    IF the males that see you are gay and bisexual: Then why bother with with wig, makeup and pushup bra? If am gay/bisexual for seeing you (like you say) than I dont need you to wear panties. Why dress up? Who are you trying to make feel better us or you?

    When will u realize that a man who likes tgirls can be straight. Just like a fully transitioned tgirl who has sex with men, is straight. I don't blame you for having a penis, so don't blame me for sucking it. Also I don't give a fuck what you think I am, what matters is what I think I am.

    And finally, don't present yourself as a woman and then call the guys that like you gay- you're the one with the identity issues not us. Its almost as if you are trying to transfer the guilt you feel about yourself on to us guys by shaming us and saying we are the ones that are gay.

    Why can't you just embrace yourself as a woman and accept that men like you. Stop being in denial and just accept yourself as a true woman. It seem most tgirls reach a point where they can do this....some, like you and Barbie seem to be immaturely stunted in your transition and cant seem to pull of this phase...



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    Well Greep seems you are following me around to justify your own denial that even though you like having sex with transsexuals that you have no need for LGBT rights as they have no effect on you as you are straight and not gay,bi or trans. And again if there were no progress in LGBT rights there would be NO pretty T-Girls for you to see as no person struggling with gender dysphoria could obtain hormone therapy or any kind of feminizing surgeries. Expressions of dysphoria would only get the person locked up in a mental institution and heavily medicated with anti-psychotic drugs until you convince them you no longer believe you are a woman trapped in a man's body. We would all just be hairy, masculine cross dressers. Hairy from head to toe as who would dare shave their body hair and then be caught and questioned for having done so.

    The violence and discrimination that those who are openly gay, bi or trans spreads to those associated with them in any way and especially for those involved with these "freaks and abominations" sexually. If there were no LGBT rights there would be no T-Girl escorts period as we would be hunted down and beaten to death by homophobic gangs or arrested and thrown in jail by police.

    As for trans attracted men being in the closet about their sexual preferences that is just a fact. I'm not saying they are gay but they are not straight up hetero either. I can post pics and a profile on a dating site and find most men are attracted to me as a woman. Those who are straight will lose interest immediately once I tell them I am pre-op as they have NO interest sexually in someone with a penis. So yes a guy has to be at least bicurious to bisexual to continue his interest and date me as he has to be willing and interested in dealing with a penis during sex. It's not about my gender identity I know I am a woman emotionally, mentally, and now 90% physically but I'm not in denial that I have "male genitals" .

    You can continue your rationalization of your own denial that you don't need or benefit from the LGBT rights movement. But your rationale makes no sense beyond the period or exclamation mark at the end of your sentence.
    *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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    • #47
      Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
      As for trans attracted men being in the closet about their sexual preferences that is just a fact. I'm not saying they are gay but they are not straight up hetero either. I can post pics and a profile on a dating site and find most men are attracted to me as a woman. Those who are straight will lose interest immediately once I tell them I am pre-op as they have NO interest sexually in someone with a penis. So yes a guy has to be at least bicurious to bisexual to continue his interest and date me as he has to be willing and interested in dealing with a penis during sex. It's not about my gender identity I know I am a woman emotionally, mentally, and now 90% physically but I'm not in denial that I have "male genitals" .

      You can continue your rationalization of your own denial that you don't need or benefit from the LGBT rights movement. But your rationale makes no sense beyond the period or exclamation mark at the end of your sentence.
      No it is not a fact. Because there is no proof of such.
      There is a difference between an opinion/belief etc. and a fact.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
        No it is not a fact. Because there is no proof of such.
        There is a difference between an opinion/belief etc. and a fact.
        People's observed personal experiences are the basis of studies, surveys, and facts.
        And this is the general consensus and observed experiences of the majority of trans women so that
        makes it a fact.
        *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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        • #49
          Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
          People's observed personal experiences are the basis of studies, surveys, and facts.
          And this is the general consensus and observed experiences of the majority of trans women so that
          makes it a fact.
          In the seventeenth century the major consensus was the the sun revolves around the earth.
          Science proved the opposite to be the fact! Because it is based on a solid proof and not the Bibles beliefs!

          Now, the general consensus of townswomen, if it were, is what establishes facts? Great!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
            In the seventeenth century the major consensus was the the sun revolves around the earth.
            Science proved the opposite to be the fact! Because it is based on a solid proof and not the Bibles beliefs!

            Now, the general consensus of townswomen, if it were, is what establishes facts? Great!
            You such a bore Jane sorry you have no contact with trans women to know what their experiences are. This is not what they believe to be true this is what their experience is. I worked for a company that worked with Stats Canada and international polling companies so you don't need to go any further with what constitutes a valid scientific poll result and what companies will then spend millions or billions of dollars based on those results.
            *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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            • #51
              Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
              You such a bore Jane sorry you have no contact with trans women to know what their experiences are. This is not what they believe to be true this is what their experience is. I worked for a company that worked with Stats Canada and international polling companies so you don't need to go any further with what constitutes a valid scientific poll result and what companies will then spend millions or billions of dollars based on those results.
              And you are no authority to establish facts or a representative of the trans-women nation.
              You have a scientific proof put it forward. Calling people names is a declaration of bankruptcy!

              If consensus is what makes facts, then why are you screaming LGBT rights when a mainstream poll can come up with a "fact" that that LGBT community is nothing but a bunch of psychopaths, at least in Russia!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
                And you are no authority to establish facts or a representative of the trans-women nation.
                You have a scientific proof put it forward. Calling people names is a declaration of bankruptcy!

                If consensus is what makes facts, then why are you guys screaming LGBT rights when a mainstream poll can come up with a "fact" that that LGBT community is nothing but a bunch of psychopaths, at least in Russia!
                As always Jane good to know what side of the picket line you are on..thanks for "identifying" yourself so quickly THIS time
                *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                  As always Jane good to know what side of the picket line you are on..thanks for "identifying" yourself so quickly THIS time
                  I avoided the main issues in this thread pertaining to your reviews.

                  But when you drifted to establish facts about another subject I had to intervene. Nothing here to hide.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                    Well Greep seems you are following me around to justify your own denial that even though you like having sex with transsexuals that you have no need for LGBT rights as they have no effect on you as you are straight and not gay,bi or trans. And again if there were no progress in LGBT rights there would be NO pretty T-Girls for you to see as no person struggling with gender dysphoria could obtain hormone therapy or any kind of feminizing surgeries. Expressions of dysphoria would only get the person locked up in a mental institution and heavily medicated with anti-psychotic drugs until you convince them you no longer believe you are a woman trapped in a man's body. We would all just be hairy, masculine cross dressers. Hairy from head to toe as who would dare shave their body hair and then be caught and questioned for having done so.

                    The violence and discrimination that those who are openly gay, bi or trans spreads to those associated with them in any way and especially for those involved with these "freaks and abominations" sexually. If there were no LGBT rights there would be no T-Girl escorts period as we would be hunted down and beaten to death by homophobic gangs or arrested and thrown in jail by police.

                    As for trans attracted men being in the closet about their sexual preferences that is just a fact. I'm not saying they are gay but they are not straight up hetero either. I can post pics and a profile on a dating site and find most men are attracted to me as a woman. Those who are straight will lose interest immediately once I tell them I am pre-op as they have NO interest sexually in someone with a penis. So yes a guy has to be at least bicurious to bisexual to continue his interest and date me as he has to be willing and interested in dealing with a penis during sex. It's not about my gender identity I know I am a woman emotionally, mentally, and now 90% physically but I'm not in denial that I have "male genitals" .

                    You can continue your rationalization of your own denial that you don't need or benefit from the LGBT rights movement. But your rationale makes no sense beyond the period or exclamation mark at the end of your sentence.
                    If you put me in a room with the youngest hottest gay stud around and said nobody will ever know what will happen and fuck away!. I telling you the truth nothing would happen because I AM NOT ATTRACTED TO MEN. Ive had guys that like have liked me throught my life(a few times) that I knew liked me, but the thought of being intimate with them made me want to vomit. Ive seen gay porn online and don't even get an inkling of an erection. Why can't you accept this?

                    Your assertion that men who like transwomen/shemales are gay and/or bisexual is just wrong.

                    PS- Im sure some men that are attracted to transwomen are gay and are bisexual- BUT NOT EVERY ONE. I just proved it!

                    You are oversimplifying human sexuality by trying to put labels on people. Stop it. The only one that needs a label is you and should read: Confused
                    I am Greep, hear me roar

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by greep View Post
                      If you put me in a room with the youngest hottest gay stud around and said nobody will ever know what will happen and fuck away!. I telling you the truth nothing would happen because I AM NOT ATTRACTED TO MEN. Ive had guys that like have liked me throught my life(a few times) that I knew liked me, but the thought of being intimate with them made me want to vomit. Ive seen gay porn online and don't even get an inkling of an erection. Why can't you accept this?

                      Your assertion that men who like transwomen/shemales are gay and/or bisexual is just wrong.

                      PS- Im sure some men that are attracted to transwomen are gay and are bisexual- BUT NOT EVERY ONE. I just proved it!

                      You are oversimplifying human sexuality by trying to put labels on people. Stop it. The only one that needs a label is you and should read: Confused
                      I didn't say you were gay or bisexual and I don't know what your main interest in trans women is. If you are approaching them from a strictly "straight, hetero" point of view then you obviously must be comfortable dating them, going out with them, and being in a relationship with them as you would any other woman. If you see them as women then your convo on a chat line dating site doesn't go like this: "Hi, hey, your hot" ... "So how big are you?".... "Are you a top or bottom?"

                      You can launch personal attacks all you want at me for stating the obvious or pointing out what "word definitions" are. Human sexuality is a sliding scale (Kinsey, Kelsey scales) from strictly hetero to strictly homosexual. Trans attraction may be a unique category and I agree some trans attracted men would not be interested in a strictly guy on guy encounter as you say you are. So there are some very pretty cross dressers who look great when dressed up but have no breasts. They call themselves T-girls are you attracted to them would you have sex with them? Because next day they are at work as a guy in jeans, tshirt, short hair, and a base ball cap and look like most of the other guys!
                      *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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                      • #56
                        I Agree With Greep!

                        In fact...I'm not even so interested in a penis! I was giving head to a beautiful TG woman and to me it felt like I was out of my body, I felt nothing inside. No emotion, no pleasure, but a curiosity, yes. But I sure liked that TG woman...a lot!!!

                        But...how did this thread end-up on this subject anyways? This was the subject of another thread not long ago...done over, flipped around, done again...nobodies going to change their mind on how they believe.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Gypsy1955 View Post
                          In fact...I'm not even so interested in a penis! I was giving head to a beautiful TG woman and to me it felt like I was out of my body, I felt nothing inside. No emotion, no pleasure, but a curiosity, yes. But I sure liked that TG woman...a lot!!!

                          But...how did this thread end-up on this subject anyways? This was the subject of another thread not long ago...done over, flipped around, done again...nobodies going to change their mind on how they believe.
                          True story Gypsy ..greep chased me over here from my Sochi Olympics posts because he doesn't give a shit about no LGBT rights movement and he doesn't need their help and he will take his chances not bumping into any trans hating guys as he comes out of his t-girl escort appt. Before you reply to that you may want to read my replies to that rationale on that thread first
                          *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Gypsy1955 View Post
                            In fact...I'm not even so interested in a penis! I was giving head to a beautiful TG woman and to me it felt like I was out of my body, I felt nothing inside. No emotion, no pleasure, but a curiosity, yes. But I sure liked that TG woman...a lot!!!

                            But...how did this thread end-up on this subject anyways? This was the subject of another thread not long ago...done over, flipped around, done again...nobodies going to change their mind on how they believe.
                            I agree, this thread is nothing but a long boring rant. Time to lock it down and put it out of its misery...

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Locomotion View Post
                              I agree, this thread is nothing but a long boring rant. Time to lock it down and put it out of its misery...
                              LOL apparently not nearly 1200 views and 57 replies in 2 days! Thanks for keeping it and the issue at the top Locomotion
                              *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Babe View Post
                                Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                                True story Gypsy ..greep chased me over here from my Sochi Olympics posts...

                                .................................................. .............................., ,,,,,,,,,,, ,.................,..........Greep
                                .........................Babe and Fantasia -->


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